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Seeking advice regarding private owned Titan
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Freddy Dreamer
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-02-14 06:02:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Freddy Dreamer
So i am thinking about downsizing my accounts and selling my chars and assets in return for a titan char and titan itself. The titan will be used for solo pvp bridging,hot drop,logistics etc. I have very small experience with caps, with that said i am seeking advice on how to keep my titan hidden from the masses and from groups like PL. I am planning on setting up a POS in a quiet lowsec. Is it wise to have several lowsec POS for safety reasons? For you people who own personal titans, how do you keep them hidden? what safety precaution do you practice?
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#2 - 2012-02-14 06:09:46 UTC
It's honestly a waste if you're flying it alone. You're either bridging a fleet on top of someone or you're in a pack of titans tracking drakes to death Lol
Freddy Dreamer
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-02-14 06:14:20 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
It's honestly a waste if you're flying it alone. You're either bridging a fleet on top of someone or you're in a pack of titans tracking drakes to death Lol




it will not be flown for pvp, it will just sit inside the pos bridging my pvp toon.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-02-14 07:04:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Mfume Apocal
Freddy Dreamer wrote:
it will not be flown for pvp, it will just sit inside the pos bridging my pvp toon.


then a lowsec moon with no moongoo on it is fine. put down a minmatar or amarr large wiht max hardeners and no one will **** with the tower. even if they take down your tower, you can just log in and cyno out, since they can't rapecage it in lowsec
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-02-14 08:33:10 UTC  |  Edited by: wallenbergaren
1) don't kill anyone with the titan
2) use a proper travelling fit when travelling and / or bring an archon along to cap you up so you can jump again before anyone even gets to the cyno
3) don't cyno onto your own pos like a ******
4) don't warp to your POS at zero
5) don't give anyone you don't TRUST access to the POS
People don't need to be inside the POS to bridge

IMO buying a personal titan is a complete waste
Yes it's fun for a while but the e-peen factor wears of pretty quickly, so don't be afraid to sell it when you start getting bored. Otherwise you'll just want to quit.
Freddy Dreamer
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-02-14 08:35:53 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Freddy Dreamer wrote:
it will not be flown for pvp, it will just sit inside the pos bridging my pvp toon.


then a lowsec moon with no moongoo on it is fine. put down a minmatar or amarr large wiht max hardeners and no one will **** with the tower. even if they take down your tower, you can just log in and cyno out, since they can't rapecage it in lowsec



good to hear, thanks.
Freddy Dreamer
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-02-14 08:40:59 UTC
wallenbergaren wrote:
1) don't kill anyone with the titan
2) use a proper travelling fit when travelling and / or bring an archon along to cap you up so you can jump again before anyone even gets to the cyno
3) don't cyno onto your own pos like a ******
4) don't warp to your POS at zero
5) don't give anyone you don't TRUST access to the POS
People don't need to be inside the POS to bridge

IMO buying a personal titan is a complete waste
Yes it's fun for a while but the e-peen factor wears of pretty quickly, so don't be afraid to sell it when you start getting bored. Otherwise you'll just want to quit.



1) yeah i dont plan on soloing with the titan, it is only going to be for bridging my solo pvp toon.

2) roger

3) ?

4) roger, how close should i be from the titan? no more than 5k?

5) yeah i am solo so that is solved.

People don't need to be inside the POS to bridge<<< what do you mean by this? i have seen videos of titans poking its head out so people can bridge, is this what u mean?
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#8 - 2012-02-14 10:23:56 UTC
3) He means, do not cyno your titan to the pos since you can't light a cyno inside it, you'll have to showboat from the cyno to the pos which coupled with an active cyno makes you very vulnerable. You might get away with it the first time but certainly not anymore.

I guess he wants you to cyno in at a safespot and warp to your pos.
Irisa Selenia
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-02-14 11:24:21 UTC
Kaanchana wrote:
3) He means, do not cyno your titan to the pos since you can't light a cyno inside it, you'll have to showboat from the cyno to the pos which coupled with an active cyno makes you very vulnerable. You might get away with it the first time but certainly not anymore.

I guess he wants you to cyno in at a safespot and warp to your pos.

If a cyno is lit right outside the edge of the pos bubble, won't you have a 50% chance of landing inside the bubble?
And at most you will be 5k from the bubble, which should take 60-90 seconds to get in, right?

Or is cynoing to a safespot always preferable because the titan align time is lower than the time it will take anyone to warp to it?
Lisan al-Gaib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-02-14 14:54:08 UTC
They've made it so that when you cyno onto a POS now you always land at least 15km from the shield or something like that.
I guess you could cyno onto the pos, warp off, and then warp back, if you want to protect your cynoship.
OldMan Gana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-14 15:23:28 UTC
I'm donning my Mystic Meg hat here- I foresee a life of doing nothing else but fueling and refueling a POS. Responding to notifications of POS attacks and then watching your Titan die.
Someone. somewhere will spot your POS and then your Titan, once that happens then you know the rest.

Love United- Hate Glazer
Irisa Selenia
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-02-14 16:12:23 UTC
OldMan Gana wrote:
I'm donning my Mystic Meg hat here- I foresee a life of doing nothing else but fueling and refueling a POS. Responding to notifications of POS attacks and then watching your Titan die.
Someone. somewhere will spot your POS and then your Titan, once that happens then you know the rest.

There is a thing called Strontium.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#13 - 2012-02-14 16:56:10 UTC
Stront only protects so far. Any serious alliance that wants a Titan kill will stalk the pos, wait out the timer, and get you.
voetius
Grundrisse
#14 - 2012-02-14 17:00:55 UTC
Freddy Dreamer wrote:
[quote=wallenbergaren]

People don't need to be inside the POS to bridge<<< what do you mean by this? i have seen videos of titans poking its head out so people can bridge, is this what u mean?


* Titan is inside the POS and moves to the shield and stops just inside the shield

* POS access rights prevent anyone from entering the POS

* Person(s) wishing to use the bridge approach the POS shield at the Titan and stop when they are nudged up against the POS shield

* You need to be 2 or 2.5km from the Titan to use the bridge (can't recall exact distance, been a while since I last did this)

Which is how this scenario works without letting people inside the POS.

Sometimes in the above situation the Titan will poke just out of the POS shield, they are pretty big and hard to maneuver I guess, I'm not a Titan pilot but that is my impression.

As people pointed out above, everyone wants to be on a Titan kill.
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#15 - 2012-02-14 17:36:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemon Ceed
ROTFL. Ok, not to troll (ok, well maybe a little) but I can't wait to see what happens with this. A lone Titan pilot with a few alts is just asking to be wtfpwnd, especially if an attacking force knows you have no real backup should they hit your tower. Never underestimate how clever an attacker can be.

Plainly put, your going to lose your Titan, one way or another, probably sooner than later. That's a crap ton of ISK lost for no good and sane reason at all. But hey, it's your ISK. Can't wait to be on the km for your beloved Titan and watch it assplode.

Edited to add: You mentioned that you do not have cap experience. This alone means you should not be flying a Titan. Also, if you really have to ask the masses who probably want to do nothing more than destroy your "hotdrop toy", then you don't have a clue on how to use it properly and will very well one day accidentally hit jump rather than bridge. This will no doubt in a video posted to Youtube with your cap dying and tens of thousands of players laughing at you and calling you a complete moron.
supr3m3justic3
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-02-14 18:49:00 UTC
Buy a Black Ops....
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-02-14 18:50:19 UTC
OldMan Gana wrote:
I'm donning my Mystic Meg hat here- I foresee a life of doing nothing else but fueling and refueling a POS. Responding to notifications of POS attacks and then watching your Titan die.
Someone. somewhere will spot your POS and then your Titan, once that happens then you know the rest.


you seriously overestimate people's willingness to shoot POSes and especially max hardener towers.

Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Stront only protects so far. Any serious alliance that wants a Titan kill will stalk the pos, wait out the timer, and get you.


you can't do anything to him in lowsec, he just lands at the pos and cynos out before you can get tackle. i've read this story before (multiple times, in fact) and i know how it ends.

spoiler: him jumping to some empty ass lowsec backwater and logging off while cloaked at a safespot before throwing up a new tower.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#18 - 2012-02-14 18:53:18 UTC
Once people see the guy that lights a cyno to bridge in one subcap, they will very quickly find your titan through a combination of watchlists and locator agents. Locator agents work even when logged out. If you are forced to abandon your staging pos, there will be alts in whatever system you log out in. Every time your character logs in, you will be in danger.

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Freddy Dreamer
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-02-14 20:57:17 UTC
thank you for the advice and warnings. do you guys think that having 2 lowsec pos or maybe 3 can mitigate the risk? i will not only have 2 or 3 cyno alts but maybe up to 6 just to mix things up. as for the titan toon itself, the only time he will be online is to bridge my pvp toon, so he will not stay on for more than 2 minutes.
Freddy Dreamer
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-02-14 20:59:05 UTC
supr3m3justic3 wrote:
Buy a Black Ops....


black ops can only bridge bombers, no?
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