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Mad Hops

Perkone

Caldari State

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#21 - 2011-09-08 03:00:57 UTC

Cipher Jones wrote:

You ain't making a domi that can tank any level 4 and be cap stable for less then the rattlesnake. If you think you can I would like to see the build.

[Dominix, AFK Mission]

Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I
75mm Gatling Rail I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I

Just use mission specific hardeners. High slots are kinda... whatever you want. Just make sure you have one gun to pull aggression.

Onictus

Federal Navy Academy

Gallente Federation

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#22 - 2011-09-08 06:54:25 UTC | Edited by: Onictus

Cipher Jones wrote:

Mad Hops wrote:

Although the rattlesnake is more error-proof, it is also more expensive. If for some reason somebody shows up as red to you (stole something, etc), your fof missiles could shoot them and agress them. I believe sentry drones will only target and shoot things that are shooting you, so they wouldn't be too much of a problem. The ishtar is a great choice due to low sig radius and the ability to still use 5 sentry drones. The t2 resists are handy as well, especially for serpentis/gurista/merc missions.

I suggest browsing some of the loadouts on Battleclinic and finding yourself a highly rated fit for the ship of your choice!

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But that said, you're afk, so being a few min faster/slower doesnt make a huge difference and you should just set up a 100 mil or so domi as opposed to an 700+ mil rattle.

You ain't making a domi that can tank any level 4 and be cap stable for less then the rattlesnake. If you think you can I would like to see the build.

[Dominix, LOLpricey]

4x 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun (Antimatter Charge L)
2x Drone Link Augmentor I

3x Cap Recharger II
2x Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

2x Large Armor Repairer II
2x Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
2x Capacitor Power Relay II

3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

5x Garde II
5x Warden II
5x Ogre II

You can buy 4 of these and fit them for one rattlesnake
(In serpentis tank) reps 556dps
does 513dps with gardes more with ogres
requires a pg4 implant, a whopping 10mil in the LP store
cap stable at 28% (wiht minimal cap skills)


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Sin Easts

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#24 - 2011-09-08 06:59:12 UTC

Solomar Espersei wrote:

Really though, I'd wager the OP would probably progress along the lines of Basic Domi>Slightly Pimed Domi>Rattlesnake.

This... I need a few changes in my training plan to accomodate the Snake, so in the meantime I will probably try out the Domi and see how it works.
But my main goal remains the Rattler, as it still seems better in the long run. ISKies are meant to be spent, so I do not mind the price that much.

Kesshisan

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#25 - 2011-09-08 15:37:50 UTC

Sin Easts wrote:

It really depends how long you'll be doing this for. In my experience AFKing a mission has net me about 10mil an hour using Ogre IIs. Maybe less depending on how much you monitor the mission.

With those numbers you can pay back the cost of a Domi in about 4-5 hours. The cost of a Gila in about 15-20 hours. And a Rattlesnake (with fits) in about 60-80 hours+.

I agree that isk is meant to be spent but cost vs purpose is something you should consider, too. Personally I believe that it's not wonth it to spend a billion isk on something that is going to net you 10mil an hour. But if you have isk to burn, and believe that 10mil an hour is acceptable gain for the initial isk investment then don't let me stop you. It's your EvE, play the way you want to. :)

Kilrayn

Caldari Provisions

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#26 - 2011-09-08 15:46:50 UTC | Edited by: Kilrayn

Cipher Jones wrote:

Quote:

But that said, you're afk, so being a few min faster/slower doesnt make a huge difference and you should just set up a 100 mil or so domi as opposed to an 700+ mil rattle.

You ain't making a domi that can tank any level 4 and be cap stable for less then the rattlesnake. If you think you can I would like to see the build.

You are correct. A domi won't out-tank a rattle. That said, a rattle's tank is OP for lvl 4s. A dual-rep domi will do just fine for a lot less isk.

Now if isk is not a concern, just get the rattle.

Edit: just saw the posted domi fit a few above this post, seems you can get really close Lol

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Sansar Sabezan

Hedion University

Amarr Empire

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#27 - 2011-09-08 22:18:21 UTC

Want a serious AFK boat?

Skip the Domi and go Rattle.

The Domi is, contrary to popular belief, NOT a true AFK boat as it fields an active tank.

And while we're at it: the Rattle can fairly easily field a tank over 1k omni that's fully passive. 500 DPS tank is neat but nothing in a mission like Worlds Collide - Guristas room full aggro.

Lets go fully passive kin / therm 1.4k+ tank with enough omni links to let your T2 gardes go to town on almost anything but elite frigs and elite cruisers:

[Rattlesnake, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Pithum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Heat Dissipation Amplifier
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Core Defence Field Purger II
Large Core Defence Field Purger II
Large Core Defence Field Purger II

Curator II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Garde II x5
Ogre II x5

Use T1 rigs to make it cheap(er) while still having a 1.2k+ tank.

The Rattler is slower than the Domi when used as an active boat, but when it comes to safety and relaxing it beats the fat Slug so bad it should be forbidden.

Cipher Jones

The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars

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#28 - 2011-09-09 00:20:22 UTC

Now to everyone that responded, there are several.

You need to be able to tank about 1700 incoming DPS to AFK MISSIONS. OP wants to AFK them. Posting a 550ish DPS tanked Domi is GREAT for doing missions while you are at the keyboard. It will get smoked in an AFK mission.

The assault; 1700+ incoming DPS
Vengeance; 1500+ incoming DPS
Recon 1; 1500+ DPS

You can run Unauthorized military presence in an AFK Domi, as well as Pirate Invasion. Thats really about it.

I have used both extensively.

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