Science & Industry

I suport this thread. Reason why i gave up industry stuff was all these fixes needed to make it playable. Heck if even half of these fixes would be implemented i would seriously reconsider starting doing industry stuff again (Manufacturing, invention, t2 stuff..)

And then some people wonder why i think devs dont really play this game, they dont. Or maybe they use some better client then rest of us.

Scinece&industry need so desperatly developer love its not even funny.

While your at it could you consider makeing pos structures manufacturable at pos? After all we can manufacture titans (Size of small moons and cause tidal shift on oceans in planets) on pos but not pos sturctures that are much much smaller.

heck desing new manufacturing array for it if you have to.

It depends what you mean by batching.

I am all for allowing someone to select 10 blueprints of the SAME TYPE to build/copy/research with and select the labs/factories and set the jobs up to the limit of their skills.

What I wouldn't support personally is the ability to queue up your skill queues. So sure I can only run 10 at a time, but I can batch up 100 runs worth and they will run back-to-back for the next week. No.

I don't see why t2 production should be the current mess of clicking that it is. It should be simple, and more user friendly.

The skill points and sophistication of the actual build process - let alone the necessary assets - will give many people pause when considering t2 production. I'm less afraid of that at present, as I'm not even doing it anymore because of the hassle.

I want to be able to do t2 production to help support my corp/alliance and other pilots, but not at the expense of ALL MY GAMETIME.

Having completed the skills I need for t2 production, should I then have another artificial hurdle to get over to actually be able to use them ?

t1 products like fighters and mobile warp disruptors? Oh the horror! Let's keep the obviously tedious clickfest a pain-inducing marathon so those that can tolerate it can have some recompense for their suffering. I too enjoy 40 million a week for a production and research slot with a million clicks instead of 30 million a week for 10 clicks without the research slot.

Carpal tunnel syndrome is the new black.

A repeat option would be brilliant tbh. It's probably a lot easier to code than batches.

It's per job, and just uses the same imput/output hangars and the same job slot. So you set up 10 jobs, it's a bit clicky, but the jobs will repeat until they run out of resources.

Remote reprocessing/refining please!

+10/10

I think having a modular POS setup would fix a large number of the issues plaguing everyone from scindustrialists to hardcore PvPers. The only thing that would need to change is how you place the components themselves, weapons, force field, etc. would remain unchanged. Wouldn't have to try to cram everything together so you aren't floating around trying to get materials from your corp hangar to an assembly array, and you could have that corp hangar function as the central hub for all your labs/factories, though you would need to expand the capacity to do that (obviously). This would be useful for everyone, whether trying to get ships or equipment, and cut down on some of that frustration.

As for implementation, release it such that POSes work as they do now, but newly added components are attached to the tower. Currently onlined/anchored structures could have a "reanchor" option on them, which would allow you to attach them without having to clear everything out, offline, unanchor, anchor, online, and restock.

I imagine this setup would also remove the necessity to choose which assembly array you want to use from the list of others at your POS. Instead it would be more like when you're docked at a station; if you want to make ammo, here's the list of production slots for your ammo array. There wouldn't be any need to distinguish between seperate arrays or labs, as each lab, for instance, would just add that many more research slots.

In summary, implementing a modular POS would simplify almost all POS activities without dumbing them down, making it easier and quicker to use with less frustration for the players. It could be effectively phased in, and has desperately needed a revamp like this for some time now.

I totally support batch invention as the clickfest drives me mad.

But as a corp director I put #3 right at the top - you can work around the UI being clunky, but #3 is a showstopper for allowing us to give the access we would like to blueprints, to more junior corp members. If it were fixed, then we can use hangar access to segment off the low value, public BPOs from the high value ones and the materials used for them, and make a lot more available to corp members.

But as it stands, since giving access to any industry facility allows cancelling all industry jobs without even a trace or record of who did it, it severely limits the access we can grant. Which is very frustrating since it's just one very small step away from being workable.

I found that briefly changing the hangar i am viewing and then changing back to the hangar i want updates the view.

But yea, it would be nice for it to update faster

if I remember it was an issue with how it was coded that caused the change we have today. But as technology has progressed maybe this can be reverted.