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WH Piracy Qs

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Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#1 - 2012-02-13 15:26:34 UTC
If I attack players in WH space do I loose concord or other rep?

If I logout in WH space without docking how does that work? What if I am cloaked?

I'm an American, English is my second language...

StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#2 - 2012-02-13 15:35:21 UTC  |  Edited by: StonerPhReaK
No

The same as any other time you log out.You warp off to a deep and remain there for about 1 minute till you poof.Unless you jus shot someone recently to which you have the 15m? timer.

*edit* as soon as you log your cloak turns off and you go into the 1 minute log off visibility timer (dscan can see you).Usually enough time for someone to probe.You are in a wh so expect probing to be someones pass time.If you have a good deepsafe you should be fine.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#3 - 2012-02-13 16:18:06 UTC
Also its not piracy if you do it in a wormhole.
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2012-02-13 22:19:40 UTC
Just to add some detail to the previous post, WH space follows many of the same rules and mechanics as nullsec: no security loss for killing/podding players. You can use all of the ships that have functions which only work in 0.0, like warp disruption fields (Heavy Interdictors), interdiction sphere launchers (Interdictors), use bombs on Stealth Bombers, and anchor moble warp disruptor bubbles.

With that in mind, be fully aware of what you could be facing before deciding to get your pew on in a WH, and for the love of baby Jesus, at least bookmark the WH on the inside and check it's stability/lifespan before you jump through.

Also, there is no sec status gain or bounties from killing sleepers. Profit is made from loot and especially salvage. Happy hunting.
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#5 - 2012-02-14 01:41:20 UTC
I was thinking I would stay until I got a ride on the pod express home, so between 15 seconds and 2 days

I'm an American, English is my second language...

IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-02-14 02:49:36 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
I was thinking I would stay until I got a ride on the pod express home, so between 15 seconds and 2 days


I lasted 2 hours my first time in WH. Now I live there permanently.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-14 09:56:34 UTC
StonerPhReaK wrote:
good deepsafe
Somebody hasn't read patch notes for at least a year...
Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-15 12:27:53 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
StonerPhReaK wrote:
good deepsafe
Somebody hasn't read patch notes for at least a year...

Some safes still exist further than d-scan range of any planet.

Somebody (you) hasn't understood said years patch notes.
Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself ♥
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#9 - 2012-02-16 04:29:43 UTC
Mr Bigwinky wrote:
Msgerbs wrote:
StonerPhReaK wrote:
good deepsafe
Somebody hasn't read patch notes for at least a year...

Some safes still exist further than d-scan range of any planet.

Somebody (you) hasn't understood said years patch notes.


Well, technically, those are two different kinds of "deep safes." But yes, it's important to make sign in/off spots in empty space, if possible.

http://www.wormholes.info

Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#10 - 2012-02-16 15:22:09 UTC
Mr Bigwinky wrote:
Msgerbs wrote:
StonerPhReaK wrote:
good deepsafe
Somebody hasn't read patch notes for at least a year...

Some safes still exist further than d-scan range of any planet.

Somebody (you) hasn't understood said years patch notes.


How would I get to such a spot? As you know it takes a really long time (a year?) to just fly out of scan range.

I'm an American, English is my second language...

Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-02-16 15:26:03 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Mr Bigwinky wrote:
Msgerbs wrote:
StonerPhReaK wrote:
good deepsafe
Somebody hasn't read patch notes for at least a year...

Some safes still exist further than d-scan range of any planet.

Somebody (you) hasn't understood said years patch notes.


How would I get to such a spot? As you know it takes a really long time (a year?) to just fly out of scan range.

I said "still exist", I didn't say anything about being able to make new ones Roll
Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself ♥
Damiez
Malum Mortuus
#12 - 2012-02-16 16:01:09 UTC
Come and live in my wormhole, always loads of people to shoot at.

Just one point. Unless you have a probe launcher, pod express will probably be your only way out oncew that wormhole dies.

  If you wish to rent this space, Please enquire within.

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#13 - 2012-02-16 16:27:16 UTC
Mr Bigwinky wrote:
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Mr Bigwinky wrote:
Msgerbs wrote:
StonerPhReaK wrote:
good deepsafe
Somebody hasn't read patch notes for at least a year...

Some safes still exist further than d-scan range of any planet.

Somebody (you) hasn't understood said years patch notes.


How would I get to such a spot? As you know it takes a really long time (a year?) to just fly out of scan range.

I said "still exist", I didn't say anything about being able to make new ones Roll


Making new ones is still possible and actively done using POSes to send stuff flying properly.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#14 - 2012-02-17 00:50:22 UTC  |  Edited by: StonerPhReaK
Quote:
Msgerbs wrote:

Somebody hasn't read patch notes for at least a year...


Deep safes are still possible just not as deep as before.Think of it as a trimming of a few inches.Unscannable from dscan can be consider'd deep and is still possible.You can make a bm in some systems off dscan without even having to burn for 15-20 seconds in a overinty.Someone obviously doesnt update there ingame "Lang o" when ccp swings the nerfbat.I still luv ya doe.

Expanding on "Mechanics" When inside a WH and within 5k from it you can agress and jump,The is no aggression timer.Best to lure them off or stay cloaked till they go get the rattin drake of lol.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2012-02-17 01:08:47 UTC
There is no such thing as piracy in w-space, because only nice people live there.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#16 - 2012-02-17 05:06:26 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
Making new ones is still possible and actively done using POSes to send stuff flying properly.


Interesting, I hadn't thought of this, mostly cause I only see things flung into the next grid over.

What kind of ship do you use, and how many AU can you get out of it?

http://www.wormholes.info

Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#17 - 2012-02-23 16:35:25 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
There is no such thing as piracy in w-space, because only nice people live there.



^^^ fact...

Hugs?

Read more of my ramblings on my blog www.invadingyourhole.blogspot.com

CraftyCroc
Fraternity Alliance Please Ignore
#18 - 2012-02-25 01:36:00 UTC
i have a safe i will sell you for 50m that i've been burning towards for 6 months

message me in game if you are interested
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#19 - 2012-02-25 01:48:20 UTC
As far a log in/off safe's go, I am content with anything over 14.5 au from the nearest object in space. Not being on d-scan is the biggest factor imho.

Solo Rifter since 2009

Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-02-25 03:12:02 UTC
StonerPhReaK wrote:
Quote:
Msgerbs wrote:

Somebody hasn't read patch notes for at least a year...


Deep safes are still possible just not as deep as before.Think of it as a trimming of a few inches.Unscannable from dscan can be consider'd deep and is still possible.You can make a bm in some systems off dscan without even having to burn for 15-20 seconds in a overinty.Someone obviously doesnt update there ingame "Lang o" when ccp swings the nerfbat.I still luv ya doe.

Expanding on "Mechanics" When inside a WH and within 5k from it you can agress and jump,The is no aggression timer.Best to lure them off or stay cloaked till they go get the rattin drake of lol.

Interesting... Can you elaborate on this please?

Also, a deep safe will still show up on probes if they use a large range setting. I wouldn't rely on it.
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