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something to be proud of, ccp?
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#21 - 2012-02-12 18:34:20 UTC
In a genre where most games die in a fire and the ashes are gone in 18 months, CCP has weathered 100 months.

Yes, they have something to be proud of, it's called success. Gratz CCP.

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Kessiaan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-02-12 18:34:49 UTC
Cindy Marco wrote:
They ad says traded, not sold. They are completely different things.

Plex have been a great investment for quite awhile, they just keep going up, and likely will continue to do so until at least fanfest.


One thing I've noticed in all the F2Ps I've played that have a tradable item or currency that must be purchased with real money is that the buyers outnumber the sellers to such a degree the market price of the item is determined entirely by the top-end free players.

With PLEX it seems to be something similar - there's a huge number of people who want to play free, but the only people I know who regularly buy PLEX for money and sell them for ISK are hardcore pvpers who don't want to bother with carebearing. Sure, there's exceptions but those exceptions seem to be one-offs and not regular purchases.

KB Link
Sprite Can
#23 - 2012-02-12 18:39:14 UTC
50 trillion ISK of PLEX equates to about 100,000 individual PLEX's. So CCP's making about $2 million a month on PLEX alone? Seems good.

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Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#24 - 2012-02-12 19:21:43 UTC
kinda like the saying "Dust will be the biggest game in the world in 2012"

I have more space likes than you. 
Valei Khurelem
#25 - 2012-02-12 19:25:03 UTC
The amount of stupid in this thread is giving me a headache and I don't say that a lot.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#26 - 2012-02-12 19:30:18 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
The amount of stupid in this thread is giving me a headache and I don't say that a lot.


Not really, you're on the Eve forums after all

The pie is a tautology
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#27 - 2012-02-12 21:46:46 UTC
Kessiaan wrote:
Cindy Marco wrote:
They ad says traded, not sold. They are completely different things.

Plex have been a great investment for quite awhile, they just keep going up, and likely will continue to do so until at least fanfest.


One thing I've noticed in all the F2Ps I've played that have a tradable item or currency that must be purchased with real money is that the buyers outnumber the sellers to such a degree the market price of the item is determined entirely by the top-end free players.

With PLEX it seems to be something similar - there's a huge number of people who want to play free, but the only people I know who regularly buy PLEX for money and sell them for ISK are hardcore pvpers who don't want to bother with carebearing. Sure, there's exceptions but those exceptions seem to be one-offs and not regular purchases.


Yeah true, which is why CCP is advertising this. They are trying to break that model of more buyers of plex then sellers. Or at least make it more "fair".

Also wondering if CCP would like to use PLEX as the main activity indicator as well. I pay with subscriptions, which is hard to measure my activity. I was gonna buy plex and be more active but its pretty hard to, and money is limited.

A activity indicator based on money would be hard to establish, based on how people feel about money. But CCP has stated they liked the PLEX idea and wanted it to be lower and more fair. If plex is based on money and they try to raise and lower it kind of like currency manipulation. Which is how I kind of feel, PLEX seems hard to manipulate but CCP be trying to.

Alot of places are trying to save their currency lately, suppose CCP can try to as well.

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Serene Repose
#28 - 2012-02-12 21:48:07 UTC
Must be why the phd in economics gave up ... last seen running into the wilds of Iceland with shrill screams...pulling out his hair.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#29 - 2012-02-12 22:07:29 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Quote:
Actually they dont pay people's salaries, they laid off 20% of their people recently.

So because they've laid off 20% of their staff a few months ago,
people aren't getting paid at all ?

Now that makes sense ...................................


With the fun number of $1.5-$2 million made a month. It does kind of show they can pay the employees they have. Which is why its fun to do these math problems and such.

But with the 20% layoff, as well as the plex model hard to break but them trying, as well them depending on technelogical gains. Some people might not be earning, or it will be hard for eveyone to get paid.

Just trying to keep the cheer level down, but not saying anything is dieing.

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SkiD-MaRk
Wambulance
#30 - 2012-02-12 22:44:51 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
15 million McDonalds cheeseburgers are flipped on this planet daily.


That would be 4500000000 calories served just from those burgers a day. NastySad
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#31 - 2012-02-12 22:53:14 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
15 million McDonalds cheeseburgers are flipped on this planet daily.



Ironically there are an estimated 12 million heart attacks world wide each day.

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Lady Spink
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-02-14 00:58:38 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
15 million McDonalds cheeseburgers are flipped on this planet daily.



Why are you lying and why are your posts on the forums so ridiculous?
Plutonian
Intransigent
#33 - 2012-02-14 03:19:04 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Edit: CCP I want to be able to buy 10M sp per year.

What a great idea!

CCP, I would like to sell 10m skill points to another pilot.

Tanya will pay me isk and I'll transfer to her my Hulk training. Act now and you get complete Social skills ABSOLUTELY FREE!!! Operators standing by. Offer not valid in Iceland.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#34 - 2012-02-14 03:27:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
DarkAegix wrote:
Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:
50 trillion? Even if CCP sold them at $1 each they have made at the very least $50,000,000,000 and they still want to keep the Noble Exchange? Greedy.

Erm. You lack the following:
-Mathematical skills
-Reading comprehension skills
-Logical skills
-Good posting skills

Please train each of these prerequisites to at least level IV before attempting to use the forums again.
Thank you.

lol! If CCP takes in 50 billion a month from PLEX I'm all for it because the next expansion would f****** ROCK! Big smile
(Not to mention the fact that CCP would single handedly dwarf Iceland's collective GDP by 4,766%ish)

...but that thing about his math is true. 4 serial yo. They are making around 3-3.7 mil/mo on PLEX on the outside (representing the upper limit), assuming one PLEX is not traded twice. More likely PLEX are being traded multiple times as speculators play and that inflates the figures in ISK terms, so really there's no telling with the info I have how little money CCP might be making in the PLEX trade. Other factors like how many PLEX from previous months are being traded back and forth, how often PLEX are removed from the game (through AUR or subs), and how many are in the shadow inventory might put downward pressure on the whole equation in terms of CCP's take.

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2012-02-14 09:20:46 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
15 million McDonalds cheeseburgers are flipped on this planet daily.


Damnit, now I want a plex AND a cheeseburger.

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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-02-14 09:27:47 UTC
The amount of economics teachers spinning in their graves just from this thread boggles the mind...
Valei Khurelem
#37 - 2012-02-14 09:29:45 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
15 million McDonalds cheeseburgers are flipped on this planet daily.


Damnit, now I want a plex AND a cheeseburger.


Buy one PLEX get a cheeseburger at McDonalds free!

I guarantee you the nutcases at CCP are planning this right now.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
malaire
#38 - 2012-02-14 11:19:52 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Ciar Meara wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
15 million McDonalds cheeseburgers are flipped on this planet daily.


Damnit, now I want a plex AND a cheeseburger.

I just ate Big Mac. Big smile

ps. in Finland it's not as bad as in USA. At least that is what I've heard from those who visited USA - McDonalds burgers are not edible there. Ugh

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#39 - 2012-02-14 11:31:59 UTC
They are not edible for you in america. The european physiology is drastically different and cannot handle the american style burgers. Its alright though, you can still use the playground McDonalds provides for people with your physiology.

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Pyx Jasta
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-02-14 14:27:43 UTC
malaire wrote:

ps. in Finland it's not as bad as in USA. At least that is what I've heard from those who visited USA - McDonalds burgers are not edible there. Ugh


They're the same. Or at least they are in Denmark and the Netherlands. Still more of a food-like substance than a burger Smile.
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