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Salvage and Tractors in Combat
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Ploppy McPlop
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-12 08:43:12 UTC
Tractors to pull your enemy closer, and salvage rigs to rip their ship apart. Why not?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-02-12 08:44:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
the ultimate solution to docking games + legit reason to bring marauders into pvp

supported

wait this isn't F&I
Ploppy McPlop
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-02-12 09:00:46 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
the ultimate solution to docking games + legit reason to bring marauders into pvp

supported

wait this isn't F&I


At the risk of shooting myself in the foot, I must ask . . . What is this F&I of which you all speak?
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-02-12 09:04:28 UTC
It is the land of Trolls and Dead Idea's

Features and Idea's, good luck

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-
Captain Stupid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-12 09:06:08 UTC
You do know theres a forum called "Features and Ideas" right?

An interesting idea nonetheless.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2012-02-12 09:06:34 UTC
Features & Ideas Forum

I've had a similar idea in the past... but it used mining lasers. Mine your enemies to death. Twisted

How did you Veterans start?
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-12 09:08:30 UTC
Ironically thats one of the better Idea's too

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-
Ploppy McPlop
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-12 09:22:18 UTC
Thanks for the link guys, it's time to lay my idea to rest in the proper place.
Ploppy McPlop
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-02-12 09:24:16 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Features & Ideas Forum

I've had a similar idea in the past... but it used mining lasers. Mine your enemies to death. Twisted


It's not a stupid idea, I mean a laser is a laser, right? It must have some sort of offensive capability.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#10 - 2012-02-12 11:38:49 UTC
Its stupid becuase of the mass ratios. A ship mass comparison to the canister lets them tractor them in safely. Anything bigger and you would be dragged towards the object as well.

I dont know how salvaging works really, but shields and armor would make it hard I imagine.

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-02-12 11:42:44 UTC
It should be super effective against Minmatar rust-buckets.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#12 - 2012-02-12 13:23:25 UTC
Ploppy McPlop wrote:
Tractors to pull your enemy closer, and salvage rigs to rip their ship apart. Why not?


Why not make sure your enemy's ships are piloted by captains from a certain mediterranean country and then park yourself in an asteroid belt and wait...
Bane Loppknow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-12 13:36:02 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Ploppy McPlop wrote:
Tractors to pull your enemy closer, and salvage rigs to rip their ship apart. Why not?


Why not make sure your enemy's ships are piloted by captains from a certain mediterranean country and then park yourself in an asteroid belt and wait...


Then simply watch as they "trip" into their pod and scoot away to safety.
Alara IonStorm
#14 - 2012-02-12 13:48:41 UTC
Ploppy McPlop wrote:

It's not a stupid idea, I mean a laser is a laser, right? It must have some sort of offensive capability.

If you look at the Beam it is Massive and has a Funnel around it. Not a tool built for precision. I like to think that the Funnel is a Tractor Beam and the wide Laser burns away the unless rock, the Minerals that we make Ships and structures out of being to strong to be affected by the Beam get sucked up the Tractor Funnel and into your hold.

That is why I think Mining Beams don't hurt Ships. They are designed not to Damage the Minerals that Ships are made of.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#15 - 2012-02-12 14:21:22 UTC
I can hear it now, "Blob of Noctis wipe out the Minmatar Navy but all the crews later die of tetanus."

also:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/36713-Drake-A-Minmatars-Nightmare.html
Old joke, but still funny.

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Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-02-12 15:40:16 UTC
You mean have salvagers and tractor beams work as designed under any condition, just like the laws of physics??? Naaaah. CCP is not known for intellectual consistency. The fact is, they design the game with their own play in mind, then toss us what they dream up like they invented it for us. Why do you think webbers and scrams were introduced?

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#17 - 2012-02-12 15:59:03 UTC
Had this idea for ages... SPACE HARPOONS!!!!
EnslaverOfMinmatar
You gonna get aped
#18 - 2012-02-13 00:19:29 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
It should be super effective against Minmatar rust-buckets.

Someone really special in an Eos tried to salvage my Sleipnir alive by using 4 salvagers and 1 tractor beam. I thought my pos flying junk was going to fall apart. Fortunately I had an extra layer of duct tape that held even after the Eos exploded.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#19 - 2012-02-13 15:25:19 UTC
EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
It should be super effective against Minmatar rust-buckets.

Someone really special in an Eos tried to salvage my Sleipnir alive by using 4 salvagers and 1 tractor beam. I thought my pos flying junk was going to fall apart. Fortunately I had an extra layer of duct tape that held even after the Eos exploded.


Good thing you can't salvage salvage.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#20 - 2012-02-13 17:54:14 UTC
I could see a use for ship-tractors, being able to pull an opponent towards you - and ship-pressors to push an opponent away from you.

The questions are:
- How big would they have to be on fitting requirements, to be balanced?
- What would their counter module be?
- What would you give up to fit one (or to fit the counter)?
- Would they be linear in strength along the full range, or have a fall-off of 1/(r*r)?
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