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Who can solo level 4 missions?
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Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2012-02-12 04:20:10 UTC
Single LAR Rep Domi, 4 Hards + DCU, T2 Sentry Drones. The only mission that I currently have problems with is the first room of The Assault (normally have to warp out once or twice). I really need to upgrade that underpowered T2 LAR for a complex/officer rep.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-02-12 06:31:58 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
I use a Raven to do them personally. It is a pretty easy going ship you can almost be casual about it.

[Raven, New Setup 2]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Signal Amplifier II
Damage Control II

X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

A lot of people say go with Rigor Rigs but I prefer CCC's since I can run the Tank of the recharge. It is mostly Missions like the Blockade where I need to run the Cap Booster maybe even Warp out once. Pretty much any other missions I don't even bother with it or only use a couple of Charges. With CCC's Precision Missiles are a god send for taking out Cruisers. I use a Meta 4 Shield Booster for fitting so I can have a Sig Amp since their are times when the enemy spawns about 100km away. I will upgrade that to faction though.

I like this Ship because it is lazy I often alt tab out to do other stuff after I pick a target so Blitzing is not really my thing. I make good money between it and my Noctis. The Tractor Beam is so I can grab any Mission items if they are close before I grab my Salvage Boat.


Um...interesting fit. I use:

[Raven]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Cap Relay II
Cap Relay II

LSB II
Mission Specific Hardener 1
Mission Specific Hardener 2
Shield Boost Amp II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Small Tractor Beam I
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hobgoblin IIs

Missiles are mission specific. With this fit I can tank just about all but the absolute hardest level 4s for an infinite amount of time.
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#63 - 2012-02-12 07:24:24 UTC
Nephilius wrote:


Missiles are mission specific. With this fit I can tank just about all but the absolute hardest level 4s for an infinite amount of time.


I think last time I ran missions, my CNR had between 200 and 400 dps tank, and that wasn't even cap stable (almost though). Gank boats are fun, but you have to be vaguely on the ball while you're knocking down the initial DPS of each wave.

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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-02-12 07:33:59 UTC
Cripes, check the OPs webpage. He runs some kind of WoW dating serviceUgh
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#65 - 2012-02-12 09:45:03 UTC
"Been using drones and armour tanking for 5 YEARS"





Not sure if serious :/

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#66 - 2012-02-12 09:49:13 UTC
If you do missions for isk, you are wrong!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#67 - 2012-02-12 09:58:05 UTC
Oh god this thread.

This thread.

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ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2012-02-12 11:28:53 UTC
I've never had a problem soloing level 4s. Just use mission specific hardeners and you'll be fine (the following is for guristas. Just change out the hardeners as needed. Also, Im not at tech II missiles yet, which is the reason for the named.):

[Raven, Raven Miss Specific Hardeners Gurista]
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Cap Recharger II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5

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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#69 - 2012-02-12 13:29:59 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
Single LAR Rep Domi, 4 Hards + DCU, T2 Sentry Drones.


Why a DCU? That one is only good for your hull and if you get into hull, you are doing it wrong anyway.
Use an EAMN instead for even more resists.
Or a second LAR to pulse if you want to be on the safe side and have bad skills (which you shouldn´t if you can use T2 sentries).

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#70 - 2012-02-12 14:00:15 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Single LAR Rep Domi, 4 Hards + DCU, T2 Sentry Drones.


Why a DCU? That one is only good for your hull and if you get into hull, you are doing it wrong anyway.
Use an EAMN instead for even more resists.
Or a second LAR to pulse if you want to be on the safe side and have bad skills (which you shouldn´t if you can use T2 sentries).


DCII isn't stacking penalized like an EANM. I haven't looked at a Domi fit, but if you have a good bunch of hardeners, it may be that the DCII gives better resists due to that.

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Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#71 - 2012-02-12 14:16:42 UTC
seriously why do people insist on doing lvl4s in a battleships? they spend more time killing those pesky frigs and cruisers than killing BS pirates. it is simply wrong when smaller ships take more volleys than the battleships.

in other words, just get into a tengu. HM tengu, it's the only correct way. because flying up close to each and every rat is silly.

also use 5% damage/support implants and faction damage mods - those do reduce nr of volleys spent on the small stuff and 1 saved volley may mean 30% less time so it's not linear to the % implant gives.

the only thing BS are good for is to help kill all the BS in some missions where there are lots of them, it's pretty effective duo in fact - most missions take less than 20 min with full mission cleaning up.
ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2012-02-12 14:32:39 UTC  |  Edited by: ILikeMarkets
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:
seriously why do people insist on doing lvl4s in a battleships? they spend more time killing those pesky frigs and cruisers than killing BS pirates. it is simply wrong when smaller ships take more volleys than the battleships.

in other words, just get into a tengu. HM tengu, it's the only correct way. because flying up close to each and every rat is silly.

also use 5% damage/support implants and faction damage mods - those do reduce nr of volleys spent on the small stuff and 1 saved volley may mean 30% less time so it's not linear to the % implant gives.

the only thing BS are good for is to help kill all the BS in some missions where there are lots of them, it's pretty effective duo in fact - most missions take less than 20 min with full mission cleaning up.


Personally I prefer running a Titan with full support fleet . Takes 5 minutes or less with full mission cleanup.

Seriously, just because its the best doesn't mean everyone can run it. Folks run BSs because they have the SPs dropped into the skills needed to do so and don't have the isk to pay for a tengu/implants. Folks who don't have tengu trained up and 5%s in their augments can still solo level 4s just fine. Sure, it may take a little longer, but they can still do it and bring in 20 mil an hour or so.

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Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2012-02-12 15:00:45 UTC
I solo Level 4's in an Iteron.

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Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#74 - 2012-02-12 15:04:27 UTC
ILikeMarkets wrote:

Personally I prefer running a Titan with full support fleet . Takes 5 minutes or less with full mission cleanup.

it's not the same thing. lots of people have alts in eve and training support artillerist does not take a lot of time - all you really need is t2 artillery and gunnery support skills to 5 and a minmatar BS 4, nothing else is really needed since you won't have to tank if you do it right. this is not different than using an alt to salvage in a noctis or to boost with a command ship for easier tanking.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-02-12 15:15:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
I confess. I solo level 4s. It's been going on now for some time. I've sought therapy, but the Yellow Pages hold no one who can counsel an overly-ambitous jerk. Alas. I've had all the mirrors in my home removed to prevent falling into self-worship. Where will it go from here? I cannot tell. Should anything worse befall me, NO you can't haz my stuff!

Double reppers and looping if needs must FTW.
Yes, read the mission reports. Reread each section as you finish each room if you must.
DO NOT aggro the entire room! IF you DO get out and come back in. (No harm in that.)
The idea of kiting, which strings the mobs out, then working back is good in smaller ships.
A good general rule of thumb (not ALWAYS true), the highest bounty ship is the trigger ship.

Salvaging level 4s should be the real challenge...as it can take quite a while, IF you can
fly a t2 tanked ship. (I don't fly a Drake, but I understand they're missile boats with an out-
rageous shield tank.) I use armor tanked Amarrian vessels, as I am a representative of God.

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Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#76 - 2012-02-12 17:10:22 UTC
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:
seriously why do people insist on doing lvl4s in a battleships? they spend more time killing those pesky frigs and cruisers than killing BS pirates. it is simply wrong when smaller ships take more volleys than the battleships.

in other words, just get into a tengu. HM tengu, it's the only correct way. because flying up close to each and every rat is silly.

also use 5% damage/support implants and faction damage mods - those do reduce nr of volleys spent on the small stuff and 1 saved volley may mean 30% less time so it's not linear to the % implant gives.

the only thing BS are good for is to help kill all the BS in some missions where there are lots of them, it's pretty effective duo in fact - most missions take less than 20 min with full mission cleaning up.


I assume you are not referring to soloing lvl 4s in a Tengu, because twenty minutes is pretty unreal for one person in a lvl 4, especially in a Tengu. I've done it, I actually run lvl 4s faster in a raven than a Tengu. Frigate rats are easy, that's what drones are for, and cruise missiles wreck everything else. In a Tengu, Bs rats are an exercise in grinding. After doing the Tengu thing for a month, I had to go back to the Raven. I save so much time and the missions are just as easy, if not easier.
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Mike712
Tenth Plague of Egypt
#77 - 2012-02-12 17:21:23 UTC
Active hull tanked nano blaster bhaalgorns are pretty popular these days:

[Bhaalgorn, Lv4 Bhaalgorn]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Enhancer II
Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer

100MN Afterburner II
Large Hull Repairer II
Large Hull Repairer II
Large Hull Repairer II
Dark Blood Cap Recharger

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

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Gregory Brunswick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-02-12 17:21:24 UTC
Before I began using sentry drones some level 4 missions gave me difficulty. Basically my drones would get aggro from the entire room and get blown up making the mission impossible to do. My suggestion is if you're not already doing it, use sentry drones until the ships are close then use drones on close ships.
Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-02-12 18:15:06 UTC
Nephilius wrote:

I assume you are not referring to soloing lvl 4s in a Tengu, because twenty minutes is pretty unreal for one person in a lvl 4, especially in a Tengu. I've done it, I actually run lvl 4s faster in a raven than a Tengu. Frigate rats are easy, that's what drones are for, and cruise missiles wreck everything else. In a Tengu, Bs rats are an exercise in grinding. After doing the Tengu thing for a month, I had to go back to the Raven. I save so much time and the missions are just as easy, if not easier.

well, as i said i use large artillery maelstrom or machariel to help with BS rats. this is not solo but why not use an alt if i have alt acc for industrial needs, which fully pays off PLEX-wise anyway.

tried using drones, it takes forever to get rid of the elite frigs that web/scramble. the same things only needs 2-3 shots from tengu. most cruisers are also 2 shot except for angels (3 shots mostly) and 200k+ cruisers.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#80 - 2012-02-12 18:26:43 UTC
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:
Nephilius wrote:

I assume you are not referring to soloing lvl 4s in a Tengu, because twenty minutes is pretty unreal for one person in a lvl 4, especially in a Tengu. I've done it, I actually run lvl 4s faster in a raven than a Tengu. Frigate rats are easy, that's what drones are for, and cruise missiles wreck everything else. In a Tengu, Bs rats are an exercise in grinding. After doing the Tengu thing for a month, I had to go back to the Raven. I save so much time and the missions are just as easy, if not easier.

well, as i said i use large artillery maelstrom or machariel to help with BS rats. this is not solo but why not use an alt if i have alt acc for industrial needs, which fully pays off PLEX-wise anyway.

tried using drones, it takes forever to get rid of the elite frigs that web/scramble. the same things only needs 2-3 shots from tengu. most cruisers are also 2 shot except for angels (3 shots mostly) and 200k+ cruisers.


Forever is a long time.

My Bouncer II's, Curator II's, and Warden II's tend to one-shot elite frigs at 40-80km...

YMMV.

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