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the wonderful orca
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mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#1 - 2012-02-11 07:32:46 UTC  |  Edited by: mavrick1
even though the orca is made for gang mining, if you need to move in a hurry it works and really the idea behind it is wonderful too but they should do a class that can haul more ships and mad cargo and that would be worth it


please day on topic and any thing dealing with battle clinic in the thread will be reported as a bash on me for reasons that i am not asking for fits or any thing i am just trying to get it out

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Sprite Can
#2 - 2012-02-11 09:20:34 UTC
Like... a Freighter?

Refreshing Lemon-Lime~
mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#3 - 2012-02-11 09:23:23 UTC
Sprite Can wrote:
Like... a Freighter?


Well this ship would have one function and that is to transport other ships no corp hold no ore hold just ship maintaince bay and cargo hold drone space and slots

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Geoscape
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-02-11 11:40:05 UTC
A militarized orca would be nice. Faster align, bigger maintenance bay, more tank but without any of the mining bonuses and ore bay.
Katherine Starlight
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-02-11 12:40:27 UTC
So, basicly you are looking for a real carrier?
That carries players ships only (not drones)
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2012-02-11 16:56:53 UTC
Do you have any idea at all how often this gets posted? Seriously, just use the search function first.
mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#7 - 2012-02-11 22:34:42 UTC
mxzf wrote:
Do you have any idea at all how often this gets posted? Seriously, just use the search function first.


well the fact that i my self have posted this about 20 times and i know there have a few other people that have asked about it and really just would be nice for a change

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#8 - 2012-02-11 23:35:23 UTC
and I WANT a pony

Solo Rifter since 2009
mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#9 - 2012-02-12 00:18:15 UTC
Well they could keep the orca space frame and just redo it i like the look of it

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Krenalla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-02-12 02:31:47 UTC
God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#11 - 2012-02-12 03:25:03 UTC
Krenalla wrote:
Maybe you could carry these in it.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/58910-Drake-massive-passive.html


I agree.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Soon Shin
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#12 - 2012-02-12 04:45:06 UTC
A freighter takes ages to align and its warp speed is only 0.70 AU, you stand watching it painfully align and sit in warp tunnel for all eternity. Ever try flying a freighter through a system more than 60 AU across? Its long boring and painful to see the AU distance very slowly go down.

An orca cannot carry as much as a freighter but with the right fit you can make it move much faster than the freighter.

With max skills and rigs you get a 60,000 m3 cargohold(100,000 m3 with 2 cargo expanders - kills tank though) with a 40,000 m3 corp hangar, along with a 50,000 ore hold, and finally a 400,000 m3 ship maintenance bay.

The best thing about the orca is its unscannable corp hangar and ship maintenance bay, you can put all sorts of valuable items in there and no one will know, unless you tell them. And in the unlikely event that your orca gets blown up, all the stuff in the corp hangar and ship maintenance array are automatically destroyed and does not appear on the killmail.

This discourages any gankers from blowing up an orca or even bother scanning most of the time.

With a reinforced bulkhead and Damage control you reach 220,000 ehp, which is the equivalent of a freighter, with a shield tank you can reach 280,000.

Finally you can make the orca warp in ten seconds using the mwd trick. You need to fit a 100mn tech 1 or named mwd to do so, which requires you to have engineering V and fit a PG8 hardwiring implant. an alternate would be to buy a storyline 100 mwd, but those cost quite a bit and very few are sold.

The mwd trick is great for any ship that take a long time to warp, for the orca you initiate warp, then turn on your mwd for 1 cycle -set auto repeat off. When the mwd cycle ends, your orca will reach the speed needed to warp and warp right away.

Since the orca has poor armor tank you can opt for cargo optimization rigs.

Use the freighter only when you need to haul a huge amount of stuff. For smaller and expensive cargo use the orca.
mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#13 - 2012-02-12 04:48:34 UTC
Soon Shin wrote:
A freighter takes ages to align and its warp speed is only 0.70 AU, you stand watching it painfully align and sit in warp tunnel for all eternity. Ever try flying a freighter through a system more than 60 AU across? Its long boring and painful to see the AU distance very slowly go down.

An orca cannot carry as much as a freighter but with the right fit you can make it move much faster than the freighter.

With max skills and rigs you get a 60,000 m3 cargohold(100,000 m3 with 2 cargo expanders - kills tank though) with a 40,000 m3 corp hangar, along with a 50,000 ore hold, and finally a 400,000 m3 ship maintenance bay.

The best thing about the orca is its unscannable corp hangar and ship maintenance bay, you can put all sorts of valuable items in there and no one will know, unless you tell them. And in the unlikely event that your orca gets blown up, all the stuff in the corp hangar and ship maintenance array are automatically destroyed and does not appear on the killmail.

This discourages any gankers from blowing up an orca or even bother scanning most of the time.

With a reinforced bulkhead and Damage control you reach 220,000 ehp, which is the equivalent of a freighter, with a shield tank you can reach 280,000.

Finally you can make the orca warp in ten seconds using the mwd trick. You need to fit a 100mn tech 1 or named mwd to do so, which requires you to have engineering V and fit a PG8 hardwiring implant. an alternate would be to buy a storyline 100 mwd, but those cost quite a bit and very few are sold.

The mwd trick is great for any ship that take a long time to warp, for the orca you initiate warp, then turn on your mwd for 1 cycle -set auto repeat off. When the mwd cycle ends, your orca will reach the speed needed to warp and warp right away.

Since the orca has poor armor tank you can opt for cargo optimization rigs.

Use the freighter only when you need to haul a huge amount of stuff. For smaller and expensive cargo use the orca.



but as for hauling assembled ships the orca is good but i would like to keep at least to mid size ships in the mainince bay like a hulk and a salvage ship then that would be nice

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-02-12 14:48:00 UTC
I would definetly want to buy a highsec "carrier" that has no link bonuses or fighters etc

Just proper tank and ability to handle base moving logistics ... incursion runners come to mind as one group of customers. Maitenance bay worth of 3 Battleships for example.
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
Ironworks Coalition
#15 - 2012-02-12 17:40:41 UTC
mavrick1 wrote:
even though the orca is made for gang mining, if you need to move in a hurry it works and really the idea behind it is wonderful too but they should do a class that can haul more ships and mad cargo and that would be worth it


please day on topic and any thing dealing with battle clinic in the thread will be reported as a bash on me for reasons that i am not asking for fits or any thing i am just trying to get it out

Oh hey, aren't you the guy who made that rather poor fitting on Battleclinic and when told in a constructive fashion why it was so bad, you made a 10 minute video telling them how you didn't care about their opinion? You obviously cared enough to make that video and to threaten us with a reporting if we dare mention the incident... Roll

If you want to move an Orca quicker, fit nano mods or i-stabs, with rigs that support alignment times. Otherwise put your ships into contracts and move them via freighter with an alt following it to web it.
Seriously.

The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong.
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-02-12 18:51:03 UTC
Versuvius Marii wrote:
mavrick1 wrote:
even though the orca is made for gang mining, if you need to move in a hurry it works and really the idea behind it is wonderful too but they should do a class that can haul more ships and mad cargo and that would be worth it


please day on topic and any thing dealing with battle clinic in the thread will be reported as a bash on me for reasons that i am not asking for fits or any thing i am just trying to get it out

Oh hey, aren't you the guy who made that rather poor fitting on Battleclinic and when told in a constructive fashion why it was so bad, you made a 10 minute video telling them how you didn't care about their opinion? You obviously cared enough to make that video and to threaten us with a reporting if we dare mention the incident... Roll

If you want to move an Orca quicker, fit nano mods or i-stabs, with rigs that support alignment times. Otherwise put your ships into contracts and move them via freighter with an alt following it to web it.
Seriously.


He really cares too much about this game. It's basically his life.
Aggressive Nutmeg
#17 - 2012-03-16 05:43:59 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
Versuvius Marii wrote:
mavrick1 wrote:
even though the orca is made for gang mining, if you need to move in a hurry it works and really the idea behind it is wonderful too but they should do a class that can haul more ships and mad cargo and that would be worth it


please day on topic and any thing dealing with battle clinic in the thread will be reported as a bash on me for reasons that i am not asking for fits or any thing i am just trying to get it out

Oh hey, aren't you the guy who made that rather poor fitting on Battleclinic and when told in a constructive fashion why it was so bad, you made a 10 minute video telling them how you didn't care about their opinion? You obviously cared enough to make that video and to threaten us with a reporting if we dare mention the incident... Roll

If you want to move an Orca quicker, fit nano mods or i-stabs, with rigs that support alignment times. Otherwise put your ships into contracts and move them via freighter with an alt following it to web it.
Seriously.


He really cares too much about this game. It's basically his life.


Give the guy a break. I'm looking forward to the book: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=802328

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#18 - 2012-03-16 05:48:01 UTC
Orca + Gurista Ships is pure win!

They are small and you can fit a worm/gila/noctis in an orca and use it as your mission helpers.

Great for running L4's in all areas and opening up new corps. You only have to move your BS and the Orca. Idea

It's already great and holds a lot if you use it well. Lol
Death Killer21
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#19 - 2012-03-16 09:42:38 UTC
This is what i think.

The Tech 1 orca is great. Massive for mining in gangs and everything, can carry loads more ore than a regular orca and make ganking harder for anyone, you can also refit your ship in space, switch to a pvp ship if some idiot comes to uor belt to kill ya.

Yes it is really usefull and increaes anyones mining yield by LOADS.

However, the orca has a small ship bay, and ther is no ship that can as yet go high sec with a ship bay and carry bs for you acros systems.

If you want to move systems like 15 jumps it takes forever to go and grab the rest of your fitted battleships, thats 30 jumps a trip. In a battleship that takes forever, and if you have more than one of them then it is a real long trip, not to mention you have other ships to fly.

Therefore we need a tech 2 orca. One that can go high sec, use gates and has a massive ship bay. Doesnt need a massive cargo, just a big ship bay.

What we need is like a 1.5 mill ship bay, maybe a 10k m3 cargo and then no drone space (it is only for hauling) and no corp hangar. Then we can put maybe a cloak in the highs and stabs in the lows and things like that. This would make moving them rigged bs 15 jumps even easyer when we need to move.

Ive lost many hours of mining and missioning from haviong to move ships when i move systems to another one because i need better minerals.

What do you guys think about brining in a t2 orca like said above.

Death killer21

Caldari and amarr Mission service.  Contact me for more info
Death Killer21
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#20 - 2012-03-16 09:48:21 UTC
Versuvius Marii wrote:
mavrick1 wrote:
even though the orca is made for gang mining, if you need to move in a hurry it works and really the idea behind it is wonderful too but they should do a class that can haul more ships and mad cargo and that would be worth it


please day on topic and any thing dealing with battle clinic in the thread will be reported as a bash on me for reasons that i am not asking for fits or any thing i am just trying to get it out

Oh hey, aren't you the guy who made that rather poor fitting on Battleclinic and when told in a constructive fashion why it was so bad, you made a 10 minute video telling them how you didn't care about their opinion? You obviously cared enough to make that video and to threaten us with a reporting if we dare mention the incident... Roll

If you want to move an Orca quicker, fit nano mods or i-stabs, with rigs that support alignment times. Otherwise put your ships into contracts and move them via freighter with an alt following it to web it.
Seriously.


And tbh, if ure gonna take the mick out of someone, dont do it on pub forums. If you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all. U r just people who find it funny to wind people up. SHUT UP.

Nex apparatu5 wrote:

Versuvius Marii wrote:
wrote:
mavrick1 wrote:
wrote:
even though the orca is made for gang mining, if you need to move in a hurry it works and really the idea behind it is wonderful too but they should do a class that can haul more ships and mad cargo and that would be worth it


please day on topic and any thing dealing with battle clinic in the thread will be reported as a bash on me for reasons that i am not asking for fits or any thing i am just trying to get it out


Oh hey, aren't you the guy who made that rather poor fitting on Battleclinic and when told in a constructive fashion why it was so bad, you made a 10 minute video telling them how you didn't care about their opinion? You obviously cared enough to make that video and to threaten us with a reporting if we dare mention the incident...

If you want to move an Orca quicker, fit nano mods or i-stabs, with rigs that support alignment times. Otherwise put your ships into contracts and move them via freighter with an alt following it to web it.
Seriously.



He really cares too much about this game. It's basically his life.

Sme goes to you.

Death killer21

Caldari and amarr Mission service.  Contact me for more info
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