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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#61 - 2012-02-13 21:41:38 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
I can not say that I disagree with the guys actions, although I think I would not be so over the top. I say this because her friends seeing said video he posts, will never affect them.

That being said, my child will feel the wrath if she ever puts out the words,"when you are told old to wipe you own ass and you call me for help, I will not be there. MY energy could be much better directed then put into an ungrateful spoiled little ****.


Slade



When did you sneak in here? Last time I saw your name it was on the old forums with you saying Pasta Marinara or whatever goodbye is in Spanish.

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Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#62 - 2012-02-13 23:14:04 UTC
Squidgey wrote:
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
Terrible parenting, all he did was show her that its acceptable to have a temper tantrum and destroy things if you dislike something somebody did. The daughters behaviour was pretty normal, shooting things in temper is not.

Taking it off her and making her buy her own would have been more constructive.

If you actually believe that, you must have not been a teenager at any point in your life. Taking it away means nothing to basically any kid over 13 these days.

Nothing terrible about it, and I don't recall seeing anyone throwing a temper tantrum. What I saw was a father making an example of something she took for granted and does not deserve to have. Because as I recall, he bought it for her in the first place, making it his own property.

The point was made in her mind far more effectively than grounding her and letting her ***** and cry on facebook about how her parent's are mean. And he very clearly stated that she is to buy her own laptop to replace that one if she wants another one.


Jhagiti, he wasn't throwing a tantrum -- he was making a point.

As I said in my letter (above) that sulky 13-year-old was living in a warm house, with three square meals a day and internet access, without contributing to the household income, and she was doing it with her parents picking up the bills.

She then had the utter gall to log onto Facebook, after her father spent $130 and a signifigant amount of his free time repairing her computer, only to find out that she's using that computer to log into Facebook and basically say 'F*** you, and the horse you rode in on' to all of the time and effort that her parents put into feeding, sheltering and clothing her ungrateful little butt.

My parents were very specific when I moved back in with them during my jobless days: help out, or get out. She not only didn't get that message, she went behind her parents back with a juvenile Facebook rant about how she's 'unappreciated' because she has to actually get up and do something for them once in a while.

Her dad was right on the money: he showed her, the hard way, that she can't expect the real world to coddle her. It takes real marbles to survive out there sometimes, and sitting around whining about how 'unfair' life is will get you diddly squat.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#63 - 2012-02-14 14:23:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
I can not say that I disagree with the guys actions, although I think I would not be so over the top. I say this because her friends seeing said video he posts, will never affect them.

That being said, my child will feel the wrath if she ever puts out the words,"when you are told old to wipe you own ass and you call me for help, I will not be there. MY energy could be much better directed then put into an ungrateful spoiled little ****.


Slade



When did you sneak in here? Last time I saw your name it was on the old forums with you saying Pasta Marinara or whatever goodbye is in Spanish.


Find the post Michael.

True, I have not been posting much, but I never posted a leaving post or thread much less in Spanish. You on the other hand have falling off of and back on the posting wagon numerous times.

Even with that lack luster response above I can not determine if you have something wrong with my post? I sense that you do have something wrong with my post, otherwise you would not have posted the above lack luster attack on my lack of posting of the late.

EDIT 1: If I remember correctly you were not posting, in OOPE at least, when the old forums went down, so meh.

EDIT 2:
Squidgey wrote:

It wasnt about her friends, it was about her being publicly disciplined after she publicly insulted her parents over something which, from any adult point of view is perfectly acceptable. But from her little stuck up, world revolves around her point of view, she felt she actually had a valid point by complaining about having homework and chores.

Every kid thinks it is unfair until they move out and pay their own bills. Then they have to do 100% of the work themselves.

If you ask me, more parents need to be like this. Set rules, follow them, and teach your children that breaking the rules means facing the consequences.


I do not disagree with what you say at all. I think the public punishment is fine in certain situations and for certain violations, this may not have been one that I would chose to publicly discipline, but that is me. I do not have a hard time inforcing rule sets either, so do not imply that I do just because I said that I do not think I would have chosen to publicly discipline in this situation.


Slade
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2012-02-14 14:44:46 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Squidgey wrote:

It wasnt about her friends, it was about her being publicly disciplined after she publicly insulted her parents over something which, from any adult point of view is perfectly acceptable. But from her little stuck up, world revolves around her point of view, she felt she actually had a valid point by complaining about having homework and chores.

Every kid thinks it is unfair until they move out and pay their own bills. Then they have to do 100% of the work themselves.

If you ask me, more parents need to be like this. Set rules, follow them, and teach your children that breaking the rules means facing the consequences.


I do not disagree with what you say at all. I think the public punishment is fine in certain situations and for certain violations, this may not have been one that I would chose to publicly discipline, but that is me. I do not have a hard time inforcing rule sets either, so do not imply that I do just because I said that I do not think I would have chosen to publicly discipline in this situation.


Slade



this happened mostly because it was the second time she did it.

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Valei Khurelem
#65 - 2012-02-14 14:47:20 UTC
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That being said, my child will feel the wrath if she ever puts out the words,"when you are told old to wipe you own ass and you call me for help, I will not be there. MY energy could be much better directed then put into an ungrateful spoiled little ****.


So you raise a daughter specifically for the purposes of looking after you when you're old? I'm surprised you haven't been arrested for child abuse or slave labour.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#66 - 2012-02-14 15:18:12 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:

Find the post Michael.

True, I have not been posting much, but I never posted a leaving post or thread much less in Spanish. You on the other hand have falling off of and back on the posting wagon numerous times.

Even with that lack luster response above I can not determine if you have something wrong with my post? I sense that you do have something wrong with my post, otherwise you would not have posted the above lack luster attack on my lack of posting of the late.


That's cold man, cold. I was just givin out a old school forum bro shout out and you come trippin me up like that. I reread your end of a era thread on the old forums. First time read through just sounded like you weren't going to be coming over to the new forums.

Slade Trillgon wrote:
EDIT 1: If I remember correctly you were not posting, in OOPE at least, when the old forums went down, so meh.


No I shut down long before then. Basically left after the Joe Phoenix saga and just got back maybe a week ago. I miss flying spaceships again.


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Shadowsword
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2012-02-14 17:34:34 UTC
2bhammered wrote:

Listen, I know most people, me included were brought up in a country where only criminals have guns but guns do not make a person bad.


Doesn't change that fact that they are tools to kill other humans. Why the hell are they used for discipline purposes? That guy could have just smashed the laptop on the ground, the result would have been the same. Bringing out a gun and using it to relieve his frustration is a sign of mental pathology.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#68 - 2012-02-14 17:38:51 UTC
Shadowsword wrote:
2bhammered wrote:

Listen, I know most people, me included were brought up in a country where only criminals have guns but guns do not make a person bad.


Doesn't change that fact that they are tools to kill other humans. Why the hell are they used for discipline purposes? That guy could have just smashed the laptop on the ground, the result would have been the same. Bringing out a gun and using it to relieve his frustration is a sign of mental pathology.



Correction, my gun is a tool used to bring dinner home. Since I have owned it, it has never killed a person.

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Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#69 - 2012-02-14 22:35:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Astrid Stjerna
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Quote:

That being said, my child will feel the wrath if she ever puts out the words,"when you are told old to wipe you own ass and you call me for help, I will not be there. MY energy could be much better directed then put into an ungrateful spoiled little ****.


So you raise a daughter specifically for the purposes of looking after you when you're old? I'm surprised you haven't been arrested for child abuse or slave labour.


Valei, if my not-yet-existent children had the balls to say that to me, they wouldn't get a pat on the head and a yummy cookie.

The girl in that video expected her parents to treat her like an adult, and then threw a hissy when they asked her to take on an adult's responsibilities. If my (future) children behaved like that, I'd show them what they were getting into -- and two weeks is all it would take.

Two weeks in which I don't do the dishes, or the laundry, or food shopping, or vaccuming, or house-cleaning, or take phone messages, or get them up for school in the morning, or pick them up from school....

Quite frankly, I have zero desire to provide for a child if they're just going to act like a bratty little primadonna. They can take care of themselves for two weeks, and find out for themselves just how much work it really is.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#70 - 2012-02-15 16:04:20 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:

Find the post Michael.

True, I have not been posting much, but I never posted a leaving post or thread much less in Spanish. You on the other hand have falling off of and back on the posting wagon numerous times.

Even with that lack luster response above I can not determine if you have something wrong with my post? I sense that you do have something wrong with my post, otherwise you would not have posted the above lack luster attack on my lack of posting of the late.


That's cold man, cold. I was just givin out a old school forum bro shout out and you come trippin me up like that. I reread your end of a era thread on the old forums. First time read through just sounded like you weren't going to be coming over to the new forums.

Slade Trillgon wrote:
EDIT 1: If I remember correctly you were not posting, in OOPE at least, when the old forums went down, so meh.


No I shut down long before then. Basically left after the Joe Phoenix saga and just got back maybe a week ago. I miss flying spaceships again.




My apologies. I took a look over at my last thread in the old OOPE as well and realized that last post could have been taken as such and did not have a chance to log back on and recant. Also the Spanish thing took me for a loop as well. Combine that with me being overexposed to passive aggresive personalities, I yet again, overreacted Oops

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Valei Khurelem wrote:
Quote:

That being said, my child will feel the wrath if she ever puts out the words,"when you are told old to wipe you own ass and you call me for help, I will not be there. MY energy could be much better directed then put into an ungrateful spoiled little ****.


So you raise a daughter specifically for the purposes of looking after you when you're old? I'm surprised you haven't been arrested for child abuse or slave labour.


LOL!!! The point flew right over your head. You should study up a little more on the sociology of man as well.

The purpose of a family is that it is the primary support group for most people. The level of that support is definitely determined by a myriad of factors. If you have children, now or in the future, I hope that they are there for you when you are unable to take care of yourself because many people end that situation. That is unless you are the type of man that has the gumption to end their lives due to no longer being a productive member of society and being an unnecessary burden on their family.


Slade
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2012-02-15 19:26:25 UTC
Where's our psychologist Brujo Loco on this thread? Smile Anyway, if child psychology theory is right, children want to have a feeling of security in the home. If the parents are in control of the situation, they feel secure. If the parents aren't in control, the kid doesn't feel secure. That includes if the kid himself is getting his way and able to manipulate the parents. He'll do it if he can get away with it-- that's the nature of humans and other pack animals. Try to be the alpha and get your way. But if he gets away with being the person in the house who's actually in control, he subconsciously feels insecure. "Wait, I'm the littlest guy here, and these people who are responsible for my welfare don't have the capacity to be in control of the situation?" He won't put that into actual thought of course, but he'll feel it. So really, parents owe it to their kids to have structure.

It's a matter of who gets the final say in a conflict-- does the kid give in to the parents, or do the parents compromise, make a deal, and in reality give in to the kid? That happens in a lot of families, in America at least.