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Stinkyfingers mcge
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-02-09 16:52:02 UTC
So if someone wants to gank some logi (oni or guardian) sitting idle at some planet what do you S&M peeps suggest i use? I'd like to keep it cheap as possible but not opposed to spending a bit more on t2 guns or such. Can fly Minny & Gal up to BS.
Thanks for your help
cheers.
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Phoibe Enterprises
#2 - 2012-02-09 17:09:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tabernack en Chasteaux
As long as it's alone you could use just about anything. A guardian especially isn't likely to have any self-repping power, and neither will have any offensive capabilities worthy of the name.

But of course, it could always be bait.

edit: Offer not valid where CONCORD operates.
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#3 - 2012-02-09 17:18:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahz Niverrah
I assume you're talking about high-sec. My Guardian and Oneiros both have around 60k EHP. That tends to be on the high end for logi. Find something that does that much damage before Concord arrives. Also, make sure you minimize your transversal as they have incredibly small sigs.

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Stinkyfingers mcge
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-02-09 17:18:45 UTC
Tabernack en Chasteaux wrote:
As long as it's alone you could use just about anything. A guardian especially isn't likely to have any self-repping power, and neither will have any offensive capabilities worthy of the name.

But of course, it could always be bait.


I'm more concerned about making them explode before concord gets me. So would a take a talos/tornado w/t1 guns and dmg mods and go to town?

Stinkyfingers mcge
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-02-09 17:40:15 UTC
Kahz Niverrah wrote:
I assume you're talking about high-sec. My Guardian and Oneiros both have around 60k EHP. That tends to be on the high end for logi. Find something that does that much damage before Concord arrives. Also, make sure you minimize your transversal as they have incredibly small sigs.


Yes, in hisec. I'm hoping to just be able to warp in on my optimal and catch him sleeping. I am under the assumption that this is a particular loud mouth station campers neutral RR.
That's quite the EHP. I guess i could try and get a scan on him to see what he's packin to get a better idea of what i'd need.

was really hoping to be lazy and have someone help me out with a fit that i can throw together when i am off work.
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#6 - 2012-02-09 17:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahz Niverrah
Stinkyfingers mcge wrote:
That's quite the EHP. I guess i could try and get a scan on him to see what he's packin to get a better idea of what i'd need.

That's assuming a full low rack of tank, and armor links. To be fair, I've seen Guardians with a full low rack of cap mods. Those will have around 13k EHP if memory serves. YMMV

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Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#7 - 2012-02-09 17:52:05 UTC
Here's a silly question. If the guy just has one neutral logi, why not just kill it / jam it / neut it / damp it / force it to dock when it comes to rep?

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Stinkyfingers mcge
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-02-09 17:58:23 UTC
Kahz Niverrah wrote:
Here's a silly question. If the guy just has one neutral logi, why not just kill it / jam it / neut it / damp it / force it to dock when it comes to rep?


I'm not involved in any sort of combat/war with this particular person. I just want to see his tears in local :)
Wyte Ragnarok
#9 - 2012-02-09 20:02:18 UTC
Mmm... Tears...
Good luck. That tiny whiney little signature radius could cause a problem though...
Aestivalis Saidrian
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#10 - 2012-02-09 23:37:24 UTC
If he's AFKing at a planet and she drops in, sig radius won't matter with that 0 transversal . Twisted
Wyte Ragnarok
#11 - 2012-02-10 10:31:55 UTC
Ah, true that. However, what if the logi isn't AFK and you don't kill it with one volley. If it starts moving whilst you're trying to get a second volley off (and before Concord get there)... Ouch
Steven Fonulique
SF Incorporated
#12 - 2012-02-10 11:09:16 UTC
If you can dictate warp in location to a stationary logi why not slap some webs (and a scram) on your favourite talos gank mobile and see what happens?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#13 - 2012-02-10 11:44:11 UTC
I know for a fact that the Guardian and Scimitar use their [relatively] low signature radius as a form of tank... especially so with Minmitar Command bonuses in effect.

I'd personally recommend a Target Painter (or three) to light up the logi like a christmas tree.

How did you Veterans start?
Stinkyfingers mcge
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-02-10 15:02:51 UTC
Steven Fonulique wrote:
If you can dictate warp in location to a stationary logi why not slap some webs (and a scram) on your favourite talos gank mobile and see what happens?


I believeI can dictate warp in. The last two times i looked he was sitting at a 0 on a planet and didn't move when someone stopped in on grid with him. He just sat there half arsed aligned to station. So I really don't think i'll have a problem getting in at optimal.

Well i guess i was hoping for some fitting advice. So you think a talos, t1 guns, void, rack of dmg mods, w/ couple webs will do the trick?
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#15 - 2012-02-10 15:04:42 UTC
Stinkyfingers mcge wrote:
Well i guess i was hoping for some fitting advice. So you think a talos, t1 guns, void, rack of dmg mods, w/ couple webs will do the trick?

It would be close, IMO, depending on his fit.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#16 - 2012-02-10 15:55:52 UTC
if you've got a spare med slot, throw in a Passive Targeter. No yellow box warnings Big smile

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