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Relationship between risk aversion and autonomous thoughts and actions.

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BellaDonna Nyghtshade
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-02-09 14:58:56 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
.......... much pseud garp deleted for brevity

a. Obeying the law and being safe from being hit by a car don't reflect the same psychological motivation.

yet more pseud garp deleted for brevity...........


You really didn't bother to read the question, *OR*, you have the comprehension skills of a ESOL student, *OR* you are just a troll looking to spout pseudo intellectual garp in order to be impressed by seeing your writing in public post.

I'll bank on the latter.


FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#42 - 2012-02-09 15:10:42 UTC
1. Highsec
2. It depends on the circumstance. I have no objection to crossing against the signal, but will wait if I have no reason to be in a hurry.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Zangorus
Lightning Squad
Scary Wormhole People
#43 - 2012-02-09 15:12:01 UTC
**** da police i walk whenever i want

Like my comment and recieve 1 million isk ingame!

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#44 - 2012-02-09 15:47:59 UTC
1: High-sec.
2: No waiting. Even given approaching traffic I cross, if I judge there's enough time.

And it's rare I go to the lights, if the traffic isn't heavy.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-02-09 15:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
0.0 exclusively.

If I see no traffic at all, I don't even look at the lights. They're there to stop cars during busy hours to give pedestrians a chance to cross, standing there and staring at them when you can clearly cross freely is just stupid.
Nuela
WoT Misfits
#46 - 2012-02-09 15:57:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Nuela
What the hell kind of research is that?

It's not rocket science.

Find out if they live in null/low/hisec.

Ask a series of questions dealing what you think are components of the 'desire-for-safety' variable you seek.

Take these variables and find a reliable subset using Scale Reliability analysis (Chronbach's Alpha)

Place everyone on this scale and crosstab against the null/low/hisec question.

For the love of Pete...haphazard 'research' annoys me :)
Nuela
WoT Misfits
#47 - 2012-02-09 15:58:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Nuela
double post
Sprite Can
#48 - 2012-02-09 16:53:32 UTC
Hisec.

Walk.

Refreshing Lemon-Lime~

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#49 - 2012-02-09 17:07:35 UTC
I find this link completely appropriate. The mods on the other hand may not Twisted

In game I live wherever I am at the time. Currently logged off in low sec.

Reside in the US.

I cross when I feel that it is safe for me to cross or whenever I feel that my existance would better be served by crossing.

Also, I have been stopped for j-walking in D.C. with my father Lol


Slade
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-02-09 17:18:59 UTC
1) High
2) I walk across if it's clear, permission or not.

Dodixie > Hek

BellaDonna Nyghtshade
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-02-09 17:21:01 UTC
So far, in general, the thesis is proving true.

People who are bound by rules/duty/conformance tend to gather in low-risk, high-security

while

People who can think for themselves and make decisions based on available data without the need to be overseen tend to gather in the higher-risk, low-security areas.

There are always exceptions, but the GENERAL trend is as I surmised.

I'll take the whole mess one step further and assert that those so like minded also share common overt political beliefs.

The short short;

Some need to be taken care of

Some don't.

At the end of the day, those who need to be taken care of become a burden upon those who don't, often to the point of resentment.

Full extrapolation;

This is how societies get slaughtered.

Follow the logic. It is plain as day.

Hi-Sec carebears are food and fodder because they lack the intelligence to be otherwise, regardless of how haughty and pseudo intellectual they may position themselves.

CCP has indeed done their homework.

Tore Vest
#52 - 2012-02-09 17:22:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tore Vest
Highsec Bear
walk

Wait Shocked

No troll.

Nuela
WoT Misfits
#53 - 2012-02-10 09:30:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Nuela
BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:
So far, in general, the thesis is proving true.

People who are bound by rules/duty/conformance tend to gather in low-risk, high-security

while

People who can think for themselves and make decisions based on available data without the need to be overseen tend to gather in the higher-risk, low-security areas.

There are always exceptions, but the GENERAL trend is as I surmised.

I'll take the whole mess one step further and assert that those so like minded also share common overt political beliefs.

The short short;

Some need to be taken care of

Some don't.

At the end of the day, those who need to be taken care of become a burden upon those who don't, often to the point of resentment.

Full extrapolation;

This is how societies get slaughtered.

Follow the logic. It is plain as day.

Hi-Sec carebears are food and fodder because they lack the intelligence to be otherwise, regardless of how haughty and pseudo intellectual they may position themselves.

CCP has indeed done their homework.




Hey! If you are young and haven't selected a career yet (in real life)...

Consider being a political pollster. Especially consider being one for the Republican Party.

You have the 'aptitude' for it.

:)
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-02-10 11:08:35 UTC
1) Highsec
2) Walk - with the exception that i don“t walk when there are kids around.
R3dSh1ft
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-02-10 11:25:36 UTC
1. 0.0

2. No.
namron 7
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-02-10 13:13:33 UTC
Highsec

I have someone scout out the road for me and only if there is nothing on the road will i come out of hiding and cross


i make 10 billion is a second running Incursions

Thanks for the help

Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-02-10 14:09:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Nephilius
Fuee wrote:
Look at all of these idiots responding to these questions seriously. I blame facebook.


This.

After reading your flawed conclusion, you have only bolstered my belief that the field of psychology is one of smoke, mirrors, and quackery. Your confirmation bias glares brightly, and your limited conclusion based on what could only be considered a personal question guarantees you the result you want to hear. Expand your questionaire to include reasoning and personal mannerisms and you might get an more accurate analysis. Unfortunately, it may not tell you what you want to hear.
"If."
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-02-10 15:55:15 UTC
BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:

In Game: Do you live primarily in Hi Sec or lo/null?

0.0 sov droneland space

BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:

IRL: At an intersection, as a pedestrian facing the "Do Not Walk" symbol, clearly seeing no traffic approaching, do you wait for "permission" in the form of the "Walk" symbol before proceeding to cross?

mostly. this winter when it got cold i decided to not stay and wait if road is empty for 100-200 meters around.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

eddie valvetino
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-02-10 16:12:14 UTC
1. low sec (can't get into high sec and Null is for people who wait for the green "walk" light).
2. I don't need no stinking light to tell me when to walk, I'm not from 0.0, I'll walk when I want.

What's that mummy, dinner is on the table?

coming!!!!
Citizen Smif
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-02-10 16:15:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Citizen Smif
So your research is trying to show a correlation between rl behaviour and in-game behviour? Very interesting, I'll find it surprising if people act in a similiar fashion in both "worlds."

IRL: I do take quite a lot of risks. I'll cross the road when it's not on a green light, but only if I can see that it's clear first (of course.) I wouldn't really consider it taking a risk, I'd consider it using my own judgement over the decision of an automated process. Crossing the road isn't a good example of risk-taking - expand it to a more general question. E.g. I take drugs & like to party in real life but always within my pre-determined sense of "reasonable." It's got me into a bit of trouble a few times but when the risk/consequences begin to outweigh the "fun" then I always stop - this applies to almost all aspects of my life.

In EVE: Low sec. I take risks fairly often but mostly only when I can afford the loss. It's just a game, when it comes to it I'd rather have fun than do autonomous tasks (there's enough of that IRL) so sometimes I just take stupid risks regardless of consequences.

So I suppose in my point of view there is no correlation between my IRL behaviour and EVE behaviour. IRL I'm relatively sensible & hardworking. In EVE I don't really care - I hate missioning or ANY grinding.

Good luck with your research - make sure you post the results.