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Final Results for the Custom Ship Painting Survey
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Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#141 - 2012-02-28 04:25:47 UTC
Garrvik wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
YES! This has to happen. There's no reason it shouldn't.


I can think of an easy reason it shouldn't happen. History has shown time and again that when you open things up to players, they abuse/misuse the feature. You'll find ships with images of breasts on them, or genitalia, or neo-**** symbols. The degenerates would love this.


neo... nate?

Nobody puts baby drake in the corner.
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#142 - 2012-02-28 05:53:41 UTC
Garrvik wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
YES! This has to happen. There's no reason it shouldn't.


I can think of an easy reason it shouldn't happen. History has shown time and again that when you open things up to players, they abuse/misuse the feature. You'll find ships with images of breasts on them, or genitalia, or neo-**** symbols. The degenerates would love this.


*cough* COD Black Ops *cough*

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
DJ Obsidian
RONA Legion
#143 - 2012-02-28 07:20:42 UTC
Pink Hello Kitty Scorpion!
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#144 - 2012-02-28 07:21:54 UTC
DJ Obsidian wrote:
Pink Hello Kitty Scorpion!


The real question is, can it be bedazzled?

Life-time subscription if so.

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
Sieges
#145 - 2012-02-28 22:39:07 UTC
I like the ship colors the way they are (except the old black Crane was better than the new gray Crane). In addition to breaking immersion, custom paint jobs would just stay docked like all the Guardian-Vexors and other expensive limited edition ships.

I'd rather see CCP connect Aurum to the RL EVE store so I can order ship models for my office at work with PLEX.
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#146 - 2012-02-28 22:43:13 UTC
Sieges wrote:
I like the ship colors the way they are (except the old black Crane was better than the new gray Crane). In addition to breaking immersion, custom paint jobs would just stay docked like all the Guardian-Vexors and other expensive limited edition ships.

I'd rather see CCP connect Aurum to the RL EVE store so I can order ship models for my office at work with PLEX.


What is immersion breaking about having custom coloured ships? With the technology available in Eve's Universe it should be not only possible but relatively easy. Its more likely that ships would look different than all exactly the same.

Even pink ships, I'm pretty sure there will be pink ships in the future. :P
We already have them in RL now :)

http://www.crazy-news.net/weird-stories/Business/Aeronautics/pink_virgin_plane.jpg


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Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#147 - 2012-03-01 17:10:33 UTC
You know, after seeing these mock-ups... I really don't think I could keep playing if these aren't implemented.

T'amber, you've either made EVE perfect or ruined it for me completely. Ugh
Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2012-03-01 21:36:17 UTC
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:
Sieges wrote:
I like the ship colors the way they are (except the old black Crane was better than the new gray Crane). In addition to breaking immersion, custom paint jobs would just stay docked like all the Guardian-Vexors and other expensive limited edition ships.

I'd rather see CCP connect Aurum to the RL EVE store so I can order ship models for my office at work with PLEX.


What is immersion breaking about having custom coloured ships? With the technology available in Eve's Universe it should be not only possible but relatively easy. Its more likely that ships would look different than all exactly the same.

Even pink ships, I'm pretty sure there will be pink ships in the future. :P
We already have them in RL now :)

http://www.crazy-news.net/weird-stories/Business/Aeronautics/pink_virgin_plane.jpg

I have to agree. In fact, in the pre-Incursion days, when you were essentially your ship, I remember being disappointed when I learned you couldn't have a custom paint job on your ship. I think this is that special connection that the CCP devs were talking about when they wanted to increase the immersion of the player into the game world.

In almost any game where the essential representation of the player is a vehicle, the game lets you customize the vehicle to mark it as you (even if it's selecting from among a number of presets). Mechs with custom war paint, cars with custom paint jobs and trim (Midnight Club III: Dub Edition comes to mind), and my all-black Fokker Dr. VII in Red Baron are just a few examples.

In a universe of capsuleers, how much of a kick would it be to recognize another player's ship. "Look! You can tell that's Chribba's ship because it's gold with a giant silver 'V' on the side." Better, though perhaps more difficult, how cool would it be to see those custom paint jobs on the kill screen in Eve-kill or Battleclinic. "Yeah that's Punkturis' polkadot pattern alright, unmistakable."

What privateer worth their salt doesn't name their ship, and maybe the ship's name should show up on the hull too.
Terazul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#149 - 2012-03-03 19:50:30 UTC
Noriko Satomi wrote:

What privateer worth their salt doesn't name their ship, and maybe the ship's name should show up on the hull too.

YES, PLEASE.

I just realized how much having text on the hull of a ship actually adds to the immersion factor. Also, stickers. Again, pre-made stickers (that maybe you could change the color of) would be just fine - for example, things like animal heads, kill tallies, numbers (can be meaningless or can be tied to, say, how many of that particular hull you've bought, or what number that particular ship came off of the production line at, or any number of things), skull and crossbones for the enterprising pirates, faction symbols (for example, whatever the equivalent of the American bald eagle is for each faction - they all have some particular symbol they aspire to, right?), flags, all that stuff that adorns real-world ships and aircraft that is conspicuously missing from our EVE ships.

The symbols would be pre-built, and you would be able to put them on pre-determined locations, giving you options but not giving you so many options that you immediately run into penises everywhere (or, for that matter, run into ships that are horrifically busy-looking and visually incomprehensible). I doubt we'll see this happen anytime soon, since we don't even have colors yet, but it's something I'd love to see in the future (along with better ship deaths, visible ship damage with crew members spilling out into space, random hit locations and... okay, I'll stop there...).
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2012-03-03 20:02:40 UTC
Import image files to make logos.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Kopfy
#151 - 2012-03-03 20:12:10 UTC
Maybe have faction full body war paints in the faction LP stores. Like blood raiders blood dripping paint for your ship and then about everything else mentioned in this thread.
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2012-03-03 20:34:50 UTC
I support this thread. And there should be standard faction logos you can choose from and use. Like brutor tribe and such, if you don't want to use a custom logo.

Something clever
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#153 - 2012-03-03 20:37:13 UTC
didnt read all the posts its 8 pages come on.

would rather have ship painting when they were working on WIS for the first few years of the 5 wasted on it.

jus sayin

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Mac Tir
State War Academy
Caldari State
#154 - 2012-03-03 21:33:05 UTC
I'm not really into the idea of custom paintjobs.

Eve has a very distinct look within the MMO platform and by handing out crayons this is likely to go up in smoke. Before anything else, Eve is a beautiful game, so I see no need to pollute this with pink paintjobs and comedy cocks emblazoned upon every spare patch of a ships hull. I'm sure many players will find this sort of thing hilarious but then not everyone finds the American Pie franchise life affirming. Add into the mix the opportunity for people to scrawl any sort of bigoted, sexist junk across their space camouflage and you have a recipe for disaster. This may be the worst case scenario but if you give players even basic versions of these tools they will figure it out.

So, T'amber...

I think CCP needs to meet the playerbase half way. Here's my suggestion:

Allow ships to be re-skinned using pre-made paintjobs that are linked to that ships relevant faction.

We saw the potential of this with the Scorpion hull when it was re-designed with the various house colours. Allow CCP to have some fun creating colour schemes for Sarum Family, Federation Navy, Thukker Mix etc. Use Serpentis and the other pirate factions to push things a little further; Jackson Pollock meets Sansha; really make them unique and wild compared to their law abiding foes. This way you get a whole host of variety and new content whilst reinforcing the ethos and composition of New Eden, and avoid tarnishing a beautiful picture almost a decade in the making.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#155 - 2012-03-03 22:23:48 UTC
Survey done.

Awesome job, thank you.

+1
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#156 - 2012-03-03 22:45:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jada Maroo
Sweetest Kiss wrote:
Would be absolutely great, but I do hope all these customizable features will be VERY expansive, like 50Mil ISK per logo you upload and so forth.



So the paint on a Hurricane is supposed to cost more than the actual ship? Derp derp. No.

Keep it cheap and fun. Let people have a feature they can enjoy without worrying about getting isk-raped.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#157 - 2012-03-04 11:40:17 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
Sweetest Kiss wrote:
Would be absolutely great, but I do hope all these customizable features will be VERY expansive, like 50Mil ISK per logo you upload and so forth.



So the paint on a Hurricane is supposed to cost more than the actual ship? Derp derp. No.

Keep it cheap and fun. Let people have a feature they can enjoy without worrying about getting isk-raped.


This would be nice.

I'm very sure whenever you start hearing the *BZZzzzzzzZZZZzzzz* proper to goons fleets you can expect to see hundreds of pink Drakes and Canes, it's ok, they'll be easier to target Lol
hired goon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#158 - 2012-03-04 14:31:26 UTC
Fantastic, thank you T'Amber.

Question: Will we see the results of the survey?

Thanks.
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#159 - 2012-03-04 21:51:28 UTC
hired goon wrote:
Fantastic, thank you T'Amber.

Question: Will we see the results of the survey?

Thanks.


Sure will, we're still short by about 1100 participants however and I'm hoping to fix that next week - however I'll post the current results for you later today.

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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#160 - 2012-03-04 22:19:59 UTC
Which of the following answers best describes how you feel about Ship Customisation?
-I'd like to be able to customise my ship's visual appearance but not at the expense of server load(66.0%)
-I'd like to be able to customise my ship's visual appearance and I don't care how its done or what it costs, aslong as it happens(21.6%)
-I'm not interested in ship customisation but I don't mind if they introduced it to the game(7.9%)
-I'm not interested in ship customisation, CCP's time would be best spent elsewhere.(4.5%)

Customisation Options
-The colour options you can chose from to paint your ship should be restricted by the hulls class or race so that Eve's art integrity is left intact(48.8%)
-There should be an unrestricted amount of colour options for repainting my ship(25.2%)
-There should be an unrestricted amount of colour options for repainting my ship excluding colour reserved for t2 variants of that hull(17.7%)
-Paint options should be restricted to pre-designed themes made by CCP staff Members(8.3%)

Customisation Availability
-I should be able to customise any ship(82.0%)
-Only T1 hulls should be able to have custom paintjobs(10.1%)
-A limited amount of existing ships should be able to be customised(5.4%)
-A new type or class of ship based off existing hulls should be created and only those can be customised(1.5%)
-A new type or class of ship should be created and only they can be customised(1.0%)

Payment Methods
-I should be able to pay for this service directly with isk(61.6%)
-This service should not be restricted to a specific model(18.0%)
-This service should use a mixed payment method(13.0%)
-This service should cost Aurum only(7.0%)
-This service should use a Plex payment model only(0.4%)

Ship Destruction
-Ship destruction destroys the ship but not any custom designs applied to it, so they can be used on another ship later(50.6%)
-Ship destruction should completely destroy any custom designs applied to it(49.4%)


^^ Huh?? :|

Customisation and Design Rights
-Everyone should have the same rights to designs and colouring options(54.7%)
-Pilots, Corporations and Alliances should be able to buy the rights to a specific design with upkeep costs(45.3%)

Client Options
-Pilots should be able to turn this feature off(57.6%)
-Pilots should be able to turn off some features, but it should still be obvious that a ship has been customised(32.2%)
-Pilots should not able to turn this feature off(10.2%)

The Market
-Customised ships should be able to be sold or traded(77.2%)
-Customised ships should not be able to be sold or traded(22.8%)

Manufacturing
-You should only be able to design a custom ship from within a specially designed menu(33.8%)
-I don't know how the mechanics of this feature would work, I trust CCP to figure it out(27.6%)
-I should be able to customise my ship with new items that are tradable on the market, can be fit onto new slots on my ship, and created using normal manufacturing methods.(23.0%)
-I don't care how its done as long as I can customise my ship(15.6%)

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