Out of Pod Experience

Really hits me that this game isn't going to make it.


I followed it for four years, made an RP group and we basically waited all that time..

Then when it finally released we played till February and ultimately we all just said.. yeah.. this isn't pre-cu SWG..

..and left.


Such a tragic end to a Star Wars game..hopefully one day we'll see the rise of truly amazing Star Wars games again.


Tie Fighter? Jedi Knight Series? Battlefront?


... hell even a rehash of SWG?

One can only dream.

I'm also expecting a huge disappointment for the Elder Scrolls MMO. It's such a shame to see the series ruined by what will undoubetdly be yet another failed WoW clone. I wish these people would realise that copying WoW = failure, can't they see the trend?

If people want to play WoW, they'll play WoW, it has lots of players already there, and the game has been polished over many years. Why should they go play some clone of it, just because it has a different name?

I have to agree with this as well. As soon as they released their plans for the game I took one look and logged off. I was hoping for something more along the lines of Skyrim Online. Get rid of usual class system and let people build a character on skills like we have here (major win for ccp).

And outside of that I have had other ideas for games like bringing back player built strongholds on the open world, more variance in character selection (Fantasy, FF variance of character models), and a stronger player influence (economy and politics) rather than turn the game into raid grind online. I want to see people actually fight for resources, actually work together to defend a keep, send out raids on little convoys, put the content in the players hands.

Now that I've actually looked at the F2P /sub comparison chart they're going for I'm a bit perplexed. It's a hybrid model like in LoTRO, with some differences, but I'm not sure how they plan on making money of it. You get all the story content for free, which is arguably the only redeeming quality of the game. The problem is, that if you get that for free, why would you pay for anything outside vanity options? Naturally there are some limitations, but they are in areas, that aren't considered good or are only minor inconveniences.

From what I've read and been told the game has no economy and crafting isn't a strong point either. Leveling is also fast, character creator is one of the weakest in recent years and all the alien races are just retextured humans. It just seems, that the advantages you get from paying for anything, as the game currently is, are non-existant. You have to pay to regularly access the multiplayer aspects, but that is done better by almost every competitor they have. It just seems weird to me, that you give the only strong content you have for free, while trying to make money on the content, that is the weakest.

The vanity market might be strong, since some of the current art style of clothing/armor is hated by the players. I'm sure stuff like black lightsaber blades and other lightsaber crystals will also sell quite nicely. It'll look awful and increasingly less and less like starwars or a coherent universe stylisticly, but it'll sell. I just don't think that's enough and they'll have to heavily rework the game or introduce P2W to get people to spend money.

The problem was probably not EA but Bioware being inexperienced in the MMORPG business.

For a entertainment park RPG it was not enough like WoW, meaning there was not enough endgame content after players had burned through the level content to get to max level as fast as possible.

The level content with it's fully voiced over multiple choice dungeons is one of high maintenance. Meaning Bioware cannot just easily reskin a few NPC fiddle a bit with their toolset and then throw out new flashpoints every few weeks.


The people enjoying sandbox MMO and Sci Fi games were probably turned away by the fact that the game gives only an illusion of choice, with no real freedom on how to progress. Also the tunnel shooter they put in and labeled space combat turned away a lot of fans who might still have enjoyed the game. Besides the game is called star wars and the movies were never only about light sabers and the force, but also about epic space battles and at that point Bioware also failed.

It's really sad. I played until recently, and although I enjoy the game, if it weren't SW I wouldn't play it. When I came to that realization it just kinda bummed me out. There's no endgame to SWTOR and content is few and far between. I enjoyed the first couple of characters I leveled up to 50, but after that it's just a grind.

Ah well. Still got mah good ole trusty Eve.

Like a lot of games concepts these days, as I soon as I heard TES MMO I died a little bit more inside.