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!00mn AB Tornado.
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Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#1 - 2012-02-09 03:37:28 UTC

[Tornado, Tornado AC]

Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L

Invulnerability Field II
LiF Fueled Booster Rockets
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II
'Anointed' EM Ward Reinforcement

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

It gives me 700 dps with my skills and 1700m/s o/h with about 20k EHP. Now is this a good fit? Coz i've never used any 100mn ab ships before. My only expertise comes from watching garmons vids (i know). So I am not sure if the 100mn ab will add to its survivability. I can understand that if i am only scrammed i can gtfo if needed but reality is not always like that.

So i want your opinion on whether i should go with this or change to 10mn mwd and use shield rigs and 800mm guns?

p.s: I know i can't survive against gangs/gate camps etc. This is just to kill smaller stuff and lone vagas/cynas/drakes/canes if i do catch em. I don't mind dying to a gang if i can take out a few before.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#2 - 2012-02-09 04:20:31 UTC
Surviva-what? its a Tornado, man!

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Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-02-09 04:50:31 UTC
Now try active shield tanking it. Twisted
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#4 - 2012-02-09 05:13:25 UTC
Shhhh. You weren't supposed to tell people about this.

Solo Rifter since 2009
Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-02-09 06:11:33 UTC
Ahrieman wrote:
Shhhh. You weren't supposed to tell people about this.


inb4 NERF ALL 100MN AB.
Bibosikus
Air
#6 - 2012-02-09 16:27:29 UTC
If you've got em shield comp at V, swap the hardener for a Gistum C-type resist. They're cheap, and you get a wincy bit more ehp but much better (near) cap stability.

But a 30 second align time.. damn Shocked

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#7 - 2012-02-09 17:41:10 UTC
Bibosikus wrote:
If you've got em shield comp at V, swap the hardener for a Gistum C-type resist. They're cheap, and you get a wincy bit more ehp but much better (near) cap stability.

But a 30 second align time.. damn Shocked


A 30 second align time in a ship that fragile isn't acceptable. You're going to die horribly.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#8 - 2012-02-09 18:18:16 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:
If you've got em shield comp at V, swap the hardener for a Gistum C-type resist. They're cheap, and you get a wincy bit more ehp but much better (near) cap stability.

But a 30 second align time.. damn Shocked


A 30 second align time in a ship that fragile isn't acceptable. You're going to die horribly.

-Liang


The plan is to stop ab whenever i want to align and then activate it.. Isn't it how the 100mn ab tengus are flown?
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#9 - 2012-02-09 20:24:35 UTC
Yes, but 100mn AB Tengus aren't this fragile and they also are able to apply full DPS no matter how fast they're personally going. They don't have to slow down to deal damage - and you will have to do that with this ship. Furthermore, the idea of "align time" is more about the time it takes you to get up to speed than it is about how fast you turn to warp out.

Basically: guns mean you have to have the AB off to deal damage and the 30 seconds it takes you to get up to speed means that you literally cannot react to threats in time to evade damage. And the fragility of the ship means that you can't take the heat long enough to pull range.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#10 - 2012-02-09 21:05:47 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Yes, but 100mn AB Tengus aren't this fragile and they also are able to apply full DPS no matter how fast they're personally going. They don't have to slow down to deal damage - and you will have to do that with this ship. Furthermore, the idea of "align time" is more about the time it takes you to get up to speed than it is about how fast you turn to warp out.

Basically: guns mean you have to have the AB off to deal damage and the 30 seconds it takes you to get up to speed means that you literally cannot react to threats in time to evade damage. And the fragility of the ship means that you can't take the heat long enough to pull range.

-Liang


So ac tornados are not a good choice then? Should i change to 800mm and 10mn mwd? But i don't see how that can help. If i am scrammed i'd probably die with this i guess.. Whats your opinion?
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#11 - 2012-02-09 21:38:06 UTC
My opinion is that AC tornado is an awesome choice but 800s have terrible tracking and 30 seconds on your align time is way too long for a ship that fragile. That means you'll end up cutting your DPS, your damage projection, and tank... but it'll be worth it in the end.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#12 - 2012-02-09 22:17:52 UTC
Stop helping Liang!

OP, yes. Fit this with 800's and use a MWD. Also, drop the 2 TE's for gyros. That's how you win at EVE.

Solo Rifter since 2009