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New Player Advice: your first ship

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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-02-08 15:02:35 UTC
The New Player Advice is a bi-weekly section where EVE Online veterans could share their own experiences on a certain topic with the new citizens of New Eden. Everyone is welcome to pitch in and contribute their own answers and advice, but please do so in a civil and friendly manner.

Being a game of spaceships, EVE Online has a lot of them, and it is quite easy to get completely overwhelmed with the possible choices. Some pilots pick their ships based solely on looks, some strive to always pilot the latest flavor-of-the-month setup. Some prefer quick and lethal interceptors; others go for the biggest hulls and the heaviest guns. Yet, in the hearts of most capsuleers there is a special place for their first ship, no matter how lowly it seems after months and years of playing.

What was your first ship (apart from the rookie frigates), and do you still fly it?

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TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-02-08 15:27:21 UTC
Never underestimate frigates, T1 and T2, they're can be alot of fun.

You can get into a T1 PvP fit rifter in about a day for very little isk and cause no end of trouble in a gang (and with some training) or solo.

That said, I love manticores, something about stealth bombers just makes me happytimes.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#3 - 2012-02-08 15:49:46 UTC
oi, it's been ages.

I think my first ship was a Burst. I was totally not interested in mining, but the bonus to cargo space and stuff was what I was looking for in order to get more trade goods in my little frigate. I knew nothing about trading at the time, though, so was just learning about moving NPC goods around to other NPC buyers.

I was intimidated by the player market, because I didn't have enough ISK to even look sideways at a T2 module, and all the T1 stuff seemed too narrow a margin. After that, I was mostly trying to make any ISK I could edgewise - and without mission running it was a bit hard back then.


For PVP I'd say Frigates and Destroyers are definitely the place to start learning and fighting. They're the most forgiving, they teach you every mistake you can do on every bigger ship, and they give you the best chance of getting away with it to learn another day.

Frankly, everyone in EVE should be PVP competent to a degree. So, best go out and learn a bit even if you don't ever want to shoot a person against your will.

Where I am.

Shi'on Uzuki
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-02-08 17:53:50 UTC
Growing up I was a Rifter man myself. Less than 24 hours and like BlueMonkey said, you can really be an irritating little sucker :P I personally started out with the arty rifter and would always burn out of reach. Granted at the time they could burn FASTER, it was still fun.

Right now on this new toon I'm going Amarr, and the Punisher is a great little ship. Again, less than a day of training and you're a little bit of a trouble maker (though much more specialized than the Rifter *sadface* )

And of course you can never go wrong with a Kestrel. Those little sucks are MEAN.
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#5 - 2012-02-08 19:15:12 UTC
I started with a Rifter, then moved my way up to a Jaguar over time. Tough little ship; properly fit, it'll stand up to a lot of pounding before it dies.

It still fly it as a primary, but I'm looking at moving up in the chain (possibly to a battlecruiser once I get my skills up).

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MarkyJ
#6 - 2012-02-08 23:06:22 UTC
If memory serves my first non-rookie ship was a bantam becuase I thought I could make some decent money from mining.
I quickly decided that mining was not for me and hoped into a merlin though. Difficult ship to work with on low-sp but it did the job and paved the way for a cormorant. Lost both in the SOE epic arc unofortunately.
Long story short; trained up to cruiser level with caldari/hybrids, then up to battlecruisers with caldari/missiles, then decided I didn't like Caldari at all and cross-trained to gallente and eventually onto minmatar (p.s. cross-training is both the best thing you can do and the worst thing you can do as a new player).

Never looked back, though I still respect the abilities and reliability of caldari missile boats.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-08 23:43:14 UTC
First ever ship I can recall that I've flown around: Bantam, fitted with 1 Miner I, 1 survey scanner I and cargo expanders in the lows.
And the fun part, I still own it and every time I change ships in my high-sec home, I look at it and remember the days where every module of 100.000 ISK looked expensive and impossible to get.

That Bantam is of emotional value to me and will never be sold, trashed or undocked again. It stays in station for ever.

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BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#8 - 2012-02-09 04:58:51 UTC
My Incursus was the first ship I remember. I still prefer it in the T1 frigate class if we're doing a fun roam, or if I'm in highsec baiting or something.
Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#9 - 2012-02-09 09:41:05 UTC
I started with a Rifter as well. Granted I was Caldari and ended running a Drake (inevitable) but I got smart and started crossing over to multiple race's ships. My fav's are anything with guns... not a huge fan of missiles now I see what a good blaster or Arty boat can do now.

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malaire
#10 - 2012-02-09 10:54:50 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Big smile Kestrel Big smile

From really early I decided to specialize in missiles and shield tanking even if I was Gallente. Kestrel is the only T1 frigate with 4 missile launchers and can give nice punch in missions. It can also have such a long range that enemies can barely hit it.

I later upgraded among missile path to bigger ships: First to Caracal then Drake and Raven. I also bought Navy ships like Hookbill, Caracal Navy and Raven Navy. I'm currently training for Tengu. But I still use Kestrel when I want to do level 1 missions for some reason (e.g. to help new player) and I don't want to overdo it. If I do want to overdo it I just get my Hookbill. Lol

Much later I learned that someone had created perfect paint job for Kestrel. I know I am never going to fly that, but if against all odds CCP would actually add that to game, I would buy one and fly it even if it would cost billions. Cool

You can allways dream ...

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-09 10:58:32 UTC
malaire wrote:
Big smile Kestrel Big smile

From really early I decided to specialize in missiles and shield tanking even if I was Gallente. Kestrel is the only T1 frigate with 4 missile launchers and can give nice punch in missions. It can also have such a long range that enemies can barely hit it.

I later upgraded among missile path to bigger ships: First to Caracal then Drake and Raven. I also bought Navy ships like Hookbill, Caracal Navy and Raven Navy. I'm currently training for Tengu. But I still use Kestrel when I want to do level 1 missions for some reason (e.g. to help new player) and I don't want to overdo it. If I do want to overdo it I just get my Hookbill. Lol

Much later I learned that someone had created perfect paint job for Kestrel. I know I am never going to fly that, but if against all odds CCP would actually add that to game, I would buy one and fly it even if it would cost billions. Cool

You can allways dream ...


Mal, love the ships you fly (actually went into that same line of ships for my missions: Kestrel > Caracal > Drake and now training for the Tengu). And yes I do hope that CCP adds the Hello Kitty Kestrel when they final make custom paint jobs available to EVE, would love those H.K. Kestrel for my cyno ships as a big F-U to the guys who try to kill me.

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Malcom Dax
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-09 13:29:58 UTC
The Rifter - not necessarily the first ship I jumped into but easily the best of the ships I got for running the tutorial missions way back when. They're pretty decent ships and can be used for both PvE and PvP. Getting skilled up for the Rifter and the support skills is a good way to go for new pilots.

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Anshio Tamark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-02-09 17:10:38 UTC
The first ship I remember getting into with this char (because I don't remember which one it was on my first account) was the Heron. It gave me a good bunch of ISK in little time, actually (at times even more than I do from L4 missions now), but I've long since upgraded it to the Buzzard.

As for combat-ships, I remember the Condor was my first combat-trashheap. I didn't think twice after testing it before I went and sold it to get a bit of ISK for a Kestrel, because the Kestrel is way better at everything except blowing up.
Jouron
Hadon Shipping
#14 - 2012-02-10 20:13:11 UTC
I cannot sing the praises of the vexor enough. Once I learned how to kite I was able to complete level 3 missions in one with relative ease with out having to warp off. Frigates are excellent little ships, but Cruisers and especially the vexor have the ability to grow with you as your skills increase. The Vexor I fly when I get my pvp itch works and functions far differently now then it did when I was only a few months old.

Drones are such a flexible weapons platform. Gallente ftw.
Easy Target
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-02-10 22:25:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Easy Target
First ship I flew was a Stabber, first kill was in that ship, arrr memories. Unfortunately she was involved in an intoxicated recycling accident. Big smile

Dont fly them as much as I should these days

Anyone remember when named modules were the best? When Miner II's were 8 million a pop and they were fitted to the Thorax as that was the best ship to fit them too...


Edit
Think CCP should do a memorial type thread like this, of all the stuff now lost to the nerf bat. Torpedo Splash Damage, Cruise launching kestrels, Stackable 100% effective ECM, stackable MWD's...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N76as3Yapwc&context=C357f750ADOEgsToPDskKR0IxHU4UOjil3fS2iU5tu

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#16 - 2012-02-11 11:51:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
My first ship out of the tutorials was a Merlin. I had read the forums in the lead up to actually subscribing in order to figure out what this game was about. There was discussion at the time about running L3 missions in a Merlin: one side of the argument was that the 5 percent per level resistance bonus was worthwhile, the other side of the argument was that a Merlin just takes too long to kill anything.

This intrigued me, so I trained to fly a Merlin and used it exclusively to fly missions until one night I thought, "I wonder if the Caracal can do this L3 cargo delivery mission better"?

For the moment, my favourite ship out of my entire stable is the Manticore.

And the sad part of the story is that even as a Minmatar-born capsuleer, I still can't fly Minmatar ships particularly well. But I can fly a Hawk and Harpy (both based on the Merlin) as well as the Manticore (based on the Kestrel).

Over the years I've written about my love for cloaky frigates.
Abavus Durden
Pukin' Dogs
#17 - 2012-02-12 20:47:34 UTC

In beta, I don't recall what my first ship was, but I flew a Merlin a lot. I remember saving up for a Kestrel and being all mad that it had no turret slots and I had no missile skills. Oops

At launch, my first non noobship was a Bantam. Corpmates and I went to Piak in Lonetrek and mined Gneiss and Hedberite in the belts there (those ores are now long gone from Lonetrek). I still have the leftovers from our final refine in inventory there as a reminder.

I haven't been in a Bantam in ages, but think it's still in my inventory somewhere in my ship museum. :)
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-02-12 22:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Malcom Dax wrote:
The Rifter - not necessarily the first ship I jumped into but easily the best of the ships I got for running the tutorial missions way back when. They're pretty decent ships and can be used for both PvE and PvP. Getting skilled up for the Rifter and the support skills is a good way to go for new pilots.


This.

Being Minmatar, there's a few ships that really stand out from the rest and the Rifter is one of those ships. I stayed in the Rifter for the first 9 months I played this game. I max trained up every skill related to the Rifter and then decided to max fit the ship. With Tech 2 rigs, Faction / Deadspace modules and all related skills maxed out, this little Tech 1 Frigate easily completed level 3 encounter missions within the bonus time limit. I still have my original Rifter complete with 'Large' rigs but the ship is mostly retired now. Every once in a while I'll use it to complete low level 'Hideout' exploration sites.

From the Rifter I went straight into the Hurricane since the majority of skills trained were applicable. After that I trained up for Covert Ops and got heavy into exploration with a Rapier. A very good mid level high security 'all in one' exploration ship that has served me well for a long time..
Captain Praxis
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-02-15 15:32:52 UTC
When I first started my ship progression was something like:

Slasher -> Rifter -> Stabber -> Rupture

The Rifter is a fantastic frigate and doesn't take long to get into as a new player Smile Useful for both PvE and PvP. The Rupture is also very nice, but as it's a cruiser you'll want to have reasonably good support skills to get the most out of it.

If I had to start again as Minmatar, I'd probably skip the Stabber (maybe go for a Thrasher instead).
Tinker Ahrire
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-02-15 22:02:13 UTC
My first ship was a little Probe. I used it to go from asteroid belt to asteroid belt doing nothing but salvaging the rats the miners killed. At the time it felt like good money and I enjoyed the thrill of being a little bit naughty when I would see the occasional module worth grabbing and running with. I mean some of them were worth a whole 20,000 isk! The important thing though was that I actually enjoyed it. Also there was one time I pulled loot from a rat that was actually owned by someone waiting in the belt for a war target. He mistook me for the WT. It was the first ship I ever lost. I didn't cry any tears. When he figured out I was not one of his WT's he apologized. Instead of being upset I said it was part of the game and I knew the risk when I took it. Since he thought I had a good attitude for Eve he taught me a little about PvP and gave me a few million isk.

Since then I have flown everything from Covert Ops to Freighters. I still occasionally see the Probe when I am scanning the markets and remember the simple pleasure it offered as well as my first loss of Eve innocence.
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