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Kelduum Revaan - Running for CSM7

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Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#141 - 2012-02-12 16:15:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Juicy Chanlin
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
This is a thread for Kelduum to pitch his salespitch for running to CSM.
Really? Where is he? He's just sitting back hoping the membership of his very large corp coasts him into a seat. He knows most people outside of the Uni (current and ex-) think his ideas are ridiculous. I expect he won't have much to say from this point forward.



To YOU? probably not.. to a normal and reasonable question, rather then a rant. I'm sure he'll answer.

BTW: You keep spouting off about how great Mitani is. (I don't know since I didn't keep up with the politics) however, I just went through the 14 pages of his campaign, and there is no post on there about what his campaign is. What he wants to achieve, what he want's to change etc.
testobjekt
Goonswarm Federation Human Resources
#142 - 2012-02-12 16:15:39 UTC
Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure!
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#143 - 2012-02-12 16:18:48 UTC
testobjekt wrote:
Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure!



ROFL..You crazy?


Make every other candidate's corp do the same then.

Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#144 - 2012-02-12 16:23:38 UTC
Kelduum Question for you:


Seeming the negative impact your War Dec idea has gotten. Do you have any other ideas on how to "fix" the war dec system?


BTW: For any of you complaining about the war decs being mutual. The issue is not of mutuality. But rather the inability of any sized corp to just war dec for ***** and giggles and then not bother to engage in said war.
Kelduum Revaan
The Ebon Hawk
#145 - 2012-02-12 17:19:01 UTC
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
Seeming the negative impact your War Dec idea has gotten. Do you have any other ideas on how to "fix" the war dec system?


I don't immediately have any other ways to "fix" the current system, however assuming CCP were to leave the core of the system as it is, there are a couple of ways to resolve the current loopholes:
1. Allow a new wardec to immediately 'warm up' a war from the same corporation which is in cooldown. This would remove the delay for the 'alliance hopping' loophole. Some changes could also be made to the voting system to remove that delay.
2. Change the mechanics of mutual wars slightly so they generate a 0 ISK bill, and adjust war length to 1 day by default (with adjusted cost to match). This would then mean that an attacker would need to automatically pay the bills daily or enable the automatic payment. This would close the DecShield loophole, and likely deal with the issues the Uni has with corporations who declare war then don't even bother to log in.

The problem with some of the suggestions such as preventing people from leaving a corporation, or having the war follow them, is that this would mean many who don't want to be involved would simply not log in, and drop to (then likely remain in) an NPC corp, losing a huge part of the community aspect, which is the best way to keep someone subscribing.


Oh, and testobjekt, feel free to ask the other candidates for their keys too - both corp and personal. You aren't going to get the location of the E-UNI titan fleet that easily, but feel free to come up with some more 'hard' questions.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#146 - 2012-02-12 17:20:32 UTC
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
testobjekt wrote:
Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure!



ROFL..You crazy?


Make every other candidate's corp do the same then.



About that.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlIIq5agK7rWdDRnaWwzMVRrYTFCTG1sZEJhTWN1Z1E

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Twisted Trucker
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#147 - 2012-02-12 17:29:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Twisted Trucker
testobjekt wrote:
Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure!



YOU first, or STFU!

He said, he would provide it to a neutral party for verification, but apparently you don't read so well....


In fact, I don't think Kelduum should do squat, to prove he doesn't "benefit" from the Uni.

YOU the accuser, on the other hand, SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE IT, that he does "benefit" from the Uni.


Oh, that's right, you don't have proof that he does, you're "witch-hunting/trolling" now STFU!
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-02-12 17:32:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuri Kinnes
testobjekt wrote:
Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure!

Provide your full API key - I've never seen anyone provide full corporate / alliance API pulls for a CSM candidate.

Andski wrote:
About that.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlIIq5agK7rWdDRnaWwzMVRrYTFCTG1sZEJhTWN1Z1E


Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#149 - 2012-02-12 17:41:46 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public.


Used to be public so vOv

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#150 - 2012-02-12 18:03:59 UTC
Andski wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public.


Used to be public so vOv

What was it?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#151 - 2012-02-12 18:06:38 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Andski wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public.


Used to be public so vOv

What was it?


GSF's ~public~ balance sheet, heh.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#152 - 2012-02-12 18:54:51 UTC
Andski wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Andski wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public.


Used to be public so vOv

What was it?


GSF's ~public~ balance sheet, heh.


I'd prefer to see the private one. Blink
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2012-02-12 18:55:32 UTC
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
I intend to have a chat with Chribba about him verifying that both myself and E-UNI are on the up-and-up, as a couple of people seem to think the corp is some huge scam for some reason.

That's a bit too tinfoil hat, even for me. Blink
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2012-02-12 18:57:19 UTC
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
BTW: For any of you complaining about the war decs being mutual. The issue is not of mutuality. But rather the inability of any sized corp to just war dec for ***** and giggles and then not bother to engage in said war.
Psychological warfare is not even a consideration for you, eh? However it is you feel wars should be conducted, that's what the rules should revolve around, eh?
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#155 - 2012-02-12 19:02:13 UTC
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
... deal with the issues the Uni has with corporations who declare war then don't even bother to log in.
How is this an issue, again? If they don't log in, then you're not really it war are you? Oh right, you're pretending that all those rules that force you to sit around in station, that those are actual game mechanics. You're trying to create rules to fix your WSOP.

You realize, that for any other corporation, if their "enemy" didn't log on, they'd actually just go about their normal business, thinking to themselves "Well, those dudes just wasted some ISK."
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#156 - 2012-02-12 19:19:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuri Kinnes
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Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Darian Reymont
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#157 - 2012-02-12 19:22:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Darian Reymont
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Oh right, you're pretending that all those rules that force you to sit around in station, that those are actual game mechanics. You're trying to create rules to fix your WSOP.


We dropped the vast majority of those rules almost five months ago. The WSOP currently restricts very little normal activity, even during "real" wars like our current one. But then you already know that.

Former E-UNI Director, station pilot and snoob. https://twitter.com//DarianReymont
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#158 - 2012-02-12 19:23:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuri Kinnes
Poetic Stanziel wrote:

Kelduum Revaan wrote:
... deal with the issues the Uni has with corporations who declare war then don't even bother to log in.

How is this an issue, again? If they don't log in, then you're not really it war are you? Oh right, you're pretending that all those rules that force you to sit around in station, that those are actual game mechanics. You're trying to create rules to fix your WSOP.

You realize, that for any other corporation, if their "enemy" didn't log on, they'd actually just go about their normal business, thinking to themselves "Well, those dudes just wasted some ISK."


http://www.twitlonger.com/show/dlu3ol <---- Poetics revealing twitter post.
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Just generally working to trash their rep. It's not a fast process, but I see a few more negative responses to them with each thread.


http://www.eve-search.com/thread/782035-0/page/1#20 <-----thread from 2008 complaints

And then CEO/Founders reply...
Quote:
Morning Maniac

Unfortunately we are an imperfect organisation being lead by imperfect individuals. I apologize for being the imperfect CEO of this organisation.

We are a corp with the goal to teach and help new players. Over the four years that we have been trying to do this we learned things that worked and things that did not.

Bottum line is that the EVE University is not a democracy. I hold 99.99% of the shares and you're pretty much stuck with what I do. In practice I delegate a lot of responsibility and trust to directors and other members and we do try to act in the best interest of most of the members. Still, we're not a democracy and we can't be with the high turnover we get. Think of it as a rl school or university, students can have a say but only to advise, not to decide.

I don't know why people look at us as we should be perfect while very few things in EVE are. If you have good ideas on how things should run. Start your own corp and make it work. No one forces you to join the uni or to stay once you're in. If you think our service is worthwhile but think the management is poor then what's keeping you from starting your own school corp? I wish you the best of luck with that and if you need advice or support just contact me ingame.

MM


BOLD/ITALICS/UNDERLINE mine...

2008 wants it's thread back...

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#159 - 2012-02-12 19:25:53 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
BTW: For any of you complaining about the war decs being mutual. The issue is not of mutuality. But rather the inability of any sized corp to just war dec for ***** and giggles and then not bother to engage in said war.
Psychological warfare is not even a consideration for you, eh? However it is you feel wars should be conducted, that's what the rules should revolve around, eh?



and how is that psych warfare? War decs are way too cheap.. and there's no reprecussions for not engaging in them.. main problem right there..
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2012-02-12 19:29:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Darian Reymont wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Oh right, you're pretending that all those rules that force you to sit around in station, that those are actual game mechanics. You're trying to create rules to fix your WSOP.
We dropped the vast majority of those rules almost five months ago. The WSOP currently restricts very little normal activity, even during "real" wars like our current one. But then you already know that.
Actually, no I don't. I've been told they are just guidelines, and the word guideline is on the WSOP page three times, but most of the section headers start with firm commands such as You must not be ..., You must ..., etc. The word must is on the WSOP page 31 times. I find the message a tad confusing. Either players MUST follow the WSOP or they should just use it as a reasonable set of guidelines for their own safety (their own experience and skill dictating what they follow and what they don't.)