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Kelduum Revaan - Running for CSM7

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Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#121 - 2012-02-11 19:58:39 UTC
testobjekt wrote:
He wants the CSM tag at his name to further the recruitment of EVE-U.

If he says EVE-U is a 100% legit organisation i challenge him to publish a full corp api key to proof this! if he does not comply we know he has something to hide and the "university" is not legit!

A) Furthering the recruitment for E-U is not a bad thing.
B) Corp API? Are you stoned?

What do you mean "not legit"?


You need to put down the Poetic Stanziel Kool-Aid cup and come back when your sober!

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Twisted Trucker
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-02-11 19:59:18 UTC
testobjekt wrote:

Vote for people like Issler Dainze (industrialists) Hans Jagerblitze/ Alkseyev Karrde. This are people who UNDERSTAND your issues far better then Kelduum probably ever will.


I'm gonna vote for Kelduum, just to pi$$ you off, YOU MAD BRO?


And he did say he would provide his API to a neutral third party for verification that he doesn't "benefit" from the Uni, what part of that did you not understand?

As for "publishing" the FULL Corp key, are YOUR candidates willing to do the same? Uhmm, yeah, thought not!


NEXT!
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#123 - 2012-02-11 20:00:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Shazzam Vokanavom
testobjekt wrote:
If he says EVE-U is a 100% legit organisation i challenge him to publish a full corp api key to proof this! if he does not comply we know he has something to hide and the "university" is not legit!


Looks like someone else is after an honorary degree in "Awoxer" studies.

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But if you consider the structure of Highsec, with lots of small/medium corps, you dont want to vote for him. He will support fixes for big corp issues (because that are the issues he notices everyday) and will be in favor of stuff that benefits HIS playstyle.

Is he the anti Mittani guy? hell no. He probably will either be marginalized by the 0.0 candidates, or they will use him for stuff they want to (corp/alliance interface).


More Straw. I think EvE Uni should start a basket weaving course with all the free materials.

Maybe a alternative bio-fuel source from all the supplied BS?

I hope the lecturers are marking these works of fiction, I'd give high marks for imagination and creativity.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#124 - 2012-02-11 20:08:25 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Discussed and considered are two different things. It was discussed. Kelduum allowed it to be discussed. It was never something he considered. It wasn't something most of the directors considered. Silentbrick, giving up his fake admiralcy? *laugh* Kelduum giving up the biggest pulpit in highsec? You know how many newbs view him as a demigod? Keld would never give that up. Or how about Irdalth? Where else would he get to practice writing really sh*tty code and terribad user interfaces? (Hmm, there might be a job for him on the CCP UI team. Blink)

They were just letting Darian vent. Because he's a good guy. EVE Uni was never in any danger of ever being dissolved.

You dip****! Keld was head diplo back then, It was Dee Carson and the person before him (forgive me, I've forgotten). Kelduum didn't *allow* anything!

Jesus, he's only been CEO for two years! ADD IT UP (@*(#$(*&@!

As for SB being "afk/afg" - so what? Again, who the **** are you to tell people how to run their show?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2012-02-11 20:12:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Darian Reymont wrote:
Actually E-UNI came close to reverting back to a chat channel/forum structure last year.


Asuri Kinnes wrote:
You dip****! Keld was head diplo back then, It was Dee Carson and the person before him (forgive me, I've forgotten). Kelduum didn't *allow* anything!


We're talking about two different events, apparently, Asuri.
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#126 - 2012-02-11 20:20:38 UTC
testobjekt wrote:


And you did not adress the 2nd part of my question



If you read Kelds post.. You'd notice that it's just an IDEA. He says he doesn't know what should be done, but he would like something added to put some power in the defending corp. His structure thing is just that an idea. But whether it's good or bad, it doesn't matter, because the purpose of an idea is to promote discussion and create other ideas amongst the CSM and CCP to look into this aspect. There have been plenty of other BAD ideas by good CSM. (look at the removal of ABC ores from WHs and the reasoning that the CSM had for wanting to do that)
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#127 - 2012-02-11 20:28:19 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Anti E-Uni and Keld Rant.



OMG dude.. You have made me see the light. I now understand how evil and self serving Kelduum and the university is.

In fact. I just heard from some internal CCP sources. (sorry have to keep it confidential) that Keld's actually a PAID CCP member, and the E-Uni was actually a CCP idea and they're secretly funding it. The reasoning behind it was that they were desperate to be able to keep cuddling new players who got bored of the game because they were picked on by the gods of players who are just too damn good to go fight amongst themselves and instead needed the challenge of picking on new players and griefing them. As you can understand this was causing CCP to loose revenue so they came up with the E-UNI idea to suck noobs in.


Thank you for making me see the light.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#128 - 2012-02-11 20:45:29 UTC
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
able to keep cuddling new players who got bored of the game because they were picked on by the gods of players who are just too damn good to go fight amongst themselves and instead needed the challenge of picking on new players and griefing them.

You had me until right there...

/sigh....

Greifing is not allowed, and CCP doesn't define Griefing the same way other companies do. CCP *will* ban players for griefing - and has...

But dammit, get it out of your head that War = Griefing! It doesn't.

(besides, Oops blowing **** up is fun...)

OopsOopsOops

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#129 - 2012-02-11 23:50:53 UTC
Kelduum is the worst candidate I have seen so far that has a chance of winning. Even for most of the High Sec anti PvP crowd he's terrible. Read his Wardec proposal in Features and Ideas if you doubt me. His idea creates a system where very large entities like EVE Uni effectively become immune to most wardecs, but all you smaller corps get nothing.. unless of course you give up your independence and join the likes of EVE Uni. don't vote for this guy.
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#130 - 2012-02-12 01:24:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Juicy Chanlin
Xorv wrote:
Kelduum is the worst candidate I have seen so far that has a chance of winning. Even for most of the High Sec anti PvP crowd he's terrible. Read his Wardec proposal in Features and Ideas if you doubt me. His idea creates a system where very large entities like EVE Uni effectively become immune to most wardecs, but all you smaller corps get nothing.. unless of course you give up your independence and join the likes of EVE Uni. don't vote for this guy.



Care to elaborate on WHERE his comments mean that only BIG corps would benefit from not being faildecced?

Unless of course, you mean the small corps that are intent on picking on big corps filled with new players to pad their kill stats. But even then. If you look at E-Uni's campaigns. (provided you bother to do research before just spouting off). There were many smaller corps that managed to school the uni quite well. And it wasn't until the students progressed and learned did the tide of the war change in the Uni's favour. But of course, THOSE smaller corps did actually fight, and it wasn't corps that just pick on missioners to pad their killstats then when a fleet shows up they run away and dock up.



Now here's a little saying my mom taught me.

IF YOU CAN"T SAY ANYTHING NICE.. THEN STFU!!!

This is a thread for Kelduum to pitch his salespitch for running to CSM.. THIS is NOT the thread where you go and attack the guys points of view because they differ from yours. Who you vote for is your own business. However, just because you do not agree with the guys views, does not mean that you're entitled to trash the guy.
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#131 - 2012-02-12 03:21:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Xorv
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
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Sorry you don't dictate what people can and cannot post on the forums. Can't say I blame your mother, I'm sure she told you to "STFU" quite often.

Anyway, people can judge for themselves, being informed about candidates is important. Here's Kelduum's Wardec proposal: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67445 . If you think that's a great idea, then by all means vote for him.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2012-02-12 03:26:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
Unless of course, you mean the small corps that are intent on picking on big corps filled with new players to pad their kill stats.

Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older. Are they incapable of defending themselves from a small corp?

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? A small corp picking on a big corp? Jesus. Poor poor big corp, being picked on by a corp of 10 people. Get together all those carebear incursion runners who can afford l33t PvE ships to go bash down the small corp with some l33t PvP ships. Instead, they cry? WTF! Seriously.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2012-02-12 03:29:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
This is a thread for Kelduum to pitch his salespitch for running to CSM.
Really? Where is he? He's just sitting back hoping the membership of his very large corp coasts him into a seat. He knows most people outside of the Uni (current and ex-) think his ideas are ridiculous. I expect he won't have much to say from this point forward.
Jean Leaner
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#134 - 2012-02-12 05:58:44 UTC
Jesus christ poetic, I don't like E-Uni either, but half the crap you're posting is just :tinfoil:
Kelduum Revaan
The Ebon Hawk
#135 - 2012-02-12 09:59:50 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
This is a thread for Kelduum to pitch his salespitch for running to CSM.
Really? Where is he?
If you must know, yesterday I spent a little time rolling around losec with my PvP alt (no, I'm not saying who, so feel free to claim I'm lying, Poetic) did some Uni related paperwork, handing out titles and so on, had a nice chat with an 8+ year player about my background and the CSM, and helped a new player through the EVE tutorials, explaining the concepts as we went - she was quite excited when she lost her first ship.

Of course, I also checked this thread for any relevant questions (please do keep them coming, testobjekt), and this evening I intend to have a chat with Chribba about him verifying that both myself and E-UNI are on the up-and-up, as a couple of people seem to think the corp is some huge scam for some reason.

Time permitting, I may repost some of my responses to questions from the Uni members and my Formspring account (some good questions there) as well as detail my ideas for producing new and more varied mission content.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#136 - 2012-02-12 13:08:52 UTC
MOAR MISSIONS

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#137 - 2012-02-12 14:02:15 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
Unless of course, you mean the small corps that are intent on picking on big corps filled with new players to pad their kill stats.

Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older. Are they incapable of defending themselves from a small corp?

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? A small corp picking on a big corp? Jesus. Poor poor big corp, being picked on by a corp of 10 people. Get together all those carebear incursion runners who can afford l33t PvE ships to go bash down the small corp with some l33t PvP ships. Instead, they cry? WTF! Seriously.

And how many of those "old" (LOL) players are active every day? I bet it's only a few at any time. Mostly (from my time in the Uni) you were flying with people your own "age". Not because anyone was "leet" but because that's where the conversations took place that (whatever age you were) were taking place.

At 6 months into the game, I didn't know squat about leading fleets - even though I had taken 5 groups out at differrent times. Remember, The Uni allows (encourages) people to lead fleets - all you have to do is write an AAR when over detailing anything learned.

Usually it's lessons on squad control, FC target calling, neutral alts getting involved, **** like that. Just because XYZ player picks up on the details of pvp in Eve in a couple weeks, doesn't mean *everyone* does.

You cannot judge others by your own rate of learning - which you also seem to have a bit of a problem realizing....

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Darian Reymont
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2012-02-12 14:40:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Darian Reymont
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older.

Oh cool, it's this again.

Wasn't your original claim that the majority of students were over a year old? What happened to the proof you said you had about that and why the revised number? Because it sounds more plausible?

Former E-UNI Director, station pilot and snoob. https://twitter.com//DarianReymont
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#139 - 2012-02-12 16:09:27 UTC
Xorv wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
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Sorry you don't dictate what people can and cannot post on the forums. Can't say I blame your mother, I'm sure she told you to "STFU" quite often.

Anyway, people can judge for themselves, being informed about candidates is important. Here's Kelduum's Wardec proposal: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67445 . If you think that's a great idea, then by all means vote for him.



I agree.. People can make their own decisions on who to vote for. So they don't need the crap that Poetic and some of the other people are posting on here. Simple as that. I am not saying everyone has to vote for Kelduum.. All I'm saying is to leave the crap out.
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#140 - 2012-02-12 16:13:49 UTC
Darian Reymont wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older.

Oh cool, it's this again.

Wasn't your original claim that the majority of students were over a year old? What happened to the proof you said you had about that and why the revised number? Because it sounds more plausible?



Give it another couple of months then he'll be complaining about the l33t 3-4month players in the uni.. :P

The thought, that some people actually have lives, and being in a corp or in the game for 6 months, doesn't mean anything since I could only be logging in once a week to update skills, or even play on the weekends, (2 days a week x 26 = 52 days of play time) which would hardly make me anything but a noob really.. That's hard to fathom for some people you know..


I did realize something though.. The reason poetic and some of his cronies have a hard time with the E-uni is simple. Just like cheaters are usually the ones that are most insecure about their partners, so do self serving people. Since they can't fathom why someone else would be helping a stranger if something wasn't in it for themselves. So they see every altruistic act as something of a front to benefit from. The whole concept of a good deed for a good deed sake is sadly lost on them. (and in general, today's society. )