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Kelduum Revaan - Running for CSM7

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Kelduum Revaan
The Ebon Hawk
#221 - 2012-02-13 17:48:55 UTC
Reppyk wrote:
1- When will you answer to all the issues in your SNA thread ?
I don't see any unanswered questions relating to the SNA. Its a proposal, an idea or, if you will, a suggestion. As mentioned in that thread, the objective was to close the loopholes while dealing with a specific set of issues in a way which would promote 'sandbox' events, which the proposal does. Unfortunately many people don't seem to have bothered to finish reading it before commenting, which I cant really help other than suggesting they try re-reading it.

I admit that it is fairly long, but the point of the thread was intended to promote discussion, which there has at least been at least a little of there in the 6 pages.


Reppyk wrote:
2- All the feedbacks are rather negative about your idea...
Negative feedback is still feedback, and the majority of it seems to concern either the structure bash, the fact that it would promote 'blobbing', or something else related to numbers which could potentially be fixed.

Reppyk wrote:
...Since wardecs are supposed to be your "specialty" (with corp management, and maybe your "secret pvp alt that nobody knows")...
My specialty as you call it is not 'wardecs' per se, rather it is corporation mechanics. However corp mechanics also tie into various other things, such as POSs, standings, alliances, and of course war declaration mechanics.

Reppyk wrote:
...do you think that you should become one of the very few pilots that CCP will ask when dealing with a new game mechanism ?
Do I think CCP should only ask me, personally, about any and all new game mechanics? No.
Do I think CCP should ask the CSM about new game mechanics? Yes.
Do I think I should be on the CSM? Yes, otherwise I would not have submitted my application.


(For the record my "secret pvp alt that nobody knows" isn't particularly incredible at what he/she does, but is a good distraction)
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#222 - 2012-02-13 17:49:01 UTC
Reppyk wrote:
I can't wait to see a CSM that is not willing to answer questions.

Like the CSM members who win a seat and then you never hear from them again? Like that?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#223 - 2012-02-13 19:07:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Juicy Chanlin
Deleted. He actually did answer some questions now.
Jasmyne Nova
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#224 - 2012-02-13 20:45:06 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
Poetic, you still haven't answered my question from before.. Other then vote for me cause I'm a goon. What's Mittani's running platform? Cause out of the 15 pages. I haven't seen any suggestions for improvement in the game.
Have you not been paying attention for the last year? His agenda is to improve nullsec, and to ensure conflict remains in the game (by supporting or ridiculing the ideas of others.) With The Mittani in the chair, I can rest assured that if any other CSMer were to present an idea similar to Keld's SNA, they would be ripped a new one, and the proposal would die, unpresented. That is what The Mittani brings to the table.


Oh yay, Eve online gets its very own O'Reily Factor style commentator in Poetic Stanziel.(sarcasm)

Critique of ideas is great. Distorting them is a disservice to the office and the electorate. I have read this threadnaught from start to finish and my patience for Poetic Stanziel's sniping & distortions is exhausted. I am now sympathetic to Keldrum Revaan's candidacy where I started out ambivalent. But I still want W-space expertise on the CSM.

I am unsure if Poetic Stanziel's assessment of Mittens is accurate, or a truly sad display of PS's that cannot/willnot see others intent as anything else than predatory and self-interested.

Good luck Kelduum Revaan.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#225 - 2012-02-14 01:57:51 UTC
Jasmyne Nova wrote:


I have read this threadnaught from start to finish and my patience for Poetic Stanziel's sniping & distortions is exhausted. I am now sympathetic to Keldrum Revaan's candidacy where I started out ambivalent.


But I still want W-space expertise on the CSM.


Good luck Kelduum Revaan.

Two-Step and Kelduum!

So, that accounts for 66% of my votes.... Guess the others is going to have to go to this "mittens" guy... I heard he likes to play internet spaceships/spyships/politic-ships...

Big smile

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#226 - 2012-02-14 14:56:48 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
I don't know, either. Which is why I asked. You know, asking a question? It's what you do to request information.

You seem dead-set on arguing anything you can with me.


Then learn not to ask loaded questions and then appear guilty about defending the stance for it and then "back paddle" to objectivity when the question itself is load with subjectivity and interpretation.

What are you on about? It's not a loaded question at all. No conceivable response could have painted them negatively. Either the Uni has retained its anti-scamming policies and no scams are taught; or, the Uni has lifted its anti--scamming policies and scams are now taught; or, and this turned out to be the correct option, the Uni has retained its anti-scamming policies and scams are taught. All of those options reflect positively and negatively upon different people, but they're all equally "good" responses that could have been given.


edit: Option Four is that Kelduum Revaan really is the dark lord of the Sith and we're all doomed.



Kelduum answered but I'll chirp in because I kind of feel like bumping this back to page 1. P

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EVE_University_Class_Library#Espionage_.26_Piracy.2C_The_Dark_Side_of_EVE

Part of the class library from E-Uni. Feel free to check out the recordings and we do hold live classes, with guest speakers, every now and again on these areas of play.

Just because members are held to standards of honor and politeness while being in the uni, does not precluded studying such topics - just no "hands on" until they are out of the uni - or at least not from their uni character.

This is similar to FW - no, you can't get into Faction Warfare with your uni char but we do have lectures, Q&A's, etc. on this and about every other topic you can think of in this game.

The "polite" and "honorable" standards of the uni are also simple to explain outside of just "corporate neutrality" concerns.

It is easy for a civil person to act barbarous - not so simple for a barbarous person to act civil -- an old "Captain Kirk" era Start Trek episode showed how they "faked it" in an alternate universe filled with murderers while that world's versions of them were caught and locked up very quickly. The number of times that people "slip up" and swear, drops as they practice not doing it but some of them at the start... It can be funny to see the "oops, sorry." "oops, sorry." repeat... But later - rare instances.

As such, while in the uni; polite, civil, etc. This enables members apply to any group from the skankiest through the most pristine reps in this game. Otherwise such a spectrum of options would not be available to the members when they leave and many new people don't know what they want to do starting out - nor do many have any idea who they wish to hang with while doing so.

It's practical.

PS:
Many members have alts, just like others playing this game. Alts don't have to follow uni rules so some get into pirating, FW and a few trying out other things such as scams and ganking. Others can go off the deep-end a bit with some very warped evil tricks the likes of which are very uncommon even in this game-world of scams and treachery.

Not too many have had an alliance stolen from them, then sold on the forums. As such, not too many have ever stolen one and sold it in such a fashion -- but I remember one. Twisted
Zandramus
Quiet.Storm
#227 - 2012-02-14 17:02:48 UTC
I am sorry sir but your ideas are in my opinion game breaking. Such as it is I would wish that there were an unlike button

Zandramus
Zandramus
Quiet.Storm
#228 - 2012-02-14 17:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Zandramus
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
No.. Unlike you.. I don't waste my time with politics in the game.. It's easy to say I want to improve this this and this. but without ideas, it's just as useless as bad ideas. Ridiculing someone else's idea is not helping anything.. There is a HUGE difference between CONSTRUCTIVE Criticism, (which by the way you fail to do) and ridiculing.

I can pick apart any idea no matter how great. It's easy to find faults. Much harder to generate ideas and solutions.

You're not making the case of Kelduum here. Kelduum has presented only a single fleshed out idea, and it was a bad idea. Which, as you say, is just as useless as no ideas. Deep in that brain of yours, you're already realizing Keld is a bad candidate, you're just not letting it out.

I'm not running for the CSM. I don't have to generate ideas. Kelduum is campaigning for a CSM slot. Generating good ideas is part of the CSM job. He's already shown a failing at being able to do that.


Poetic, all your doing is giving the op press while making an asshat of yourself. As I really don't want to see the op on the csm as he has nothing but bad ideas on how to fix / wreck a game I love, please please STFU before you end up getting him elected. Otherwise I will be forced to believe you are nothing but a kelduum alt here to garner sympathy votes for him by making assinin arguments against him


Zandramus
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#229 - 2012-02-14 17:55:49 UTC
Zandramus wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
No.. Unlike you.. I don't waste my time with politics in the game.. It's easy to say I want to improve this this and this. but without ideas, it's just as useless as bad ideas. Ridiculing someone else's idea is not helping anything.. There is a HUGE difference between CONSTRUCTIVE Criticism, (which by the way you fail to do) and ridiculing.

I can pick apart any idea no matter how great. It's easy to find faults. Much harder to generate ideas and solutions.

You're not making the case of Kelduum here. Kelduum has presented only a single fleshed out idea, and it was a bad idea. Which, as you say, is just as useless as no ideas. Deep in that brain of yours, you're already realizing Keld is a bad candidate, you're just not letting it out.

I'm not running for the CSM. I don't have to generate ideas. Kelduum is campaigning for a CSM slot. Generating good ideas is part of the CSM job. He's already shown a failing at being able to do that.


Poetic, all your doing is giving the op press while making an asshat of yourself. As I really don't want to see the op on the csm as he has nothing but bad ideas on how to fix / wreck a game I love, please please STFU before you end up getting him elected. Otherwise I will be forced to believe you are nothing but a kelduum alt here to garner sympathy votes for him by making assinin arguments against him


Zandramus


I always find it amusing that people place so much stock in the effectiveness of contrarian stances and don't actually see that in arguing in a destructive inflamatory manner they are in fact discrediting their own position in the process by adding to the dissent they are actively seeking to diminish. Especially when the motivation is manipulation of voters in favour of their own political views.

Whereas E-Uni's stance is one of constructive co-operative philanthropy which encourages the consensus of all players. I see this as a much less stubborn or "assinine" approach than other totalitarian models being offered.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#230 - 2012-02-15 00:42:03 UTC
/bump

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#231 - 2012-02-15 03:45:22 UTC
Proposal for consideration as propoganda material for the CCP blog.

Dare to Soar
Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#232 - 2012-02-15 04:26:53 UTC
I remember when Kelduum was a dumb newbie (because it was when I was, too). He truly cares about the plight of you empire-dwelling dummies, especially the newer ones. You could do far, far worse than having him as your advocate on the CSM.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#233 - 2012-02-15 04:38:57 UTC
Devilish Ledoux wrote:
You could do far, far worse than having him as your advocate on the CSM.
Juicy Chanlin or Mintrolio?
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#234 - 2012-02-15 04:56:12 UTC
Zandramus wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Juicy Chanlin wrote:
No.. Unlike you.. I don't waste my time with politics in the game.. It's easy to say I want to improve this this and this. but without ideas, it's just as useless as bad ideas. Ridiculing someone else's idea is not helping anything.. There is a HUGE difference between CONSTRUCTIVE Criticism, (which by the way you fail to do) and ridiculing.

I can pick apart any idea no matter how great. It's easy to find faults. Much harder to generate ideas and solutions.

You're not making the case of Kelduum here. Kelduum has presented only a single fleshed out idea, and it was a bad idea. Which, as you say, is just as useless as no ideas. Deep in that brain of yours, you're already realizing Keld is a bad candidate, you're just not letting it out.

I'm not running for the CSM. I don't have to generate ideas. Kelduum is campaigning for a CSM slot. Generating good ideas is part of the CSM job. He's already shown a failing at being able to do that.


Poetic, all your doing is giving the op press while making an asshat of yourself. As I really don't want to see the op on the csm as he has nothing but bad ideas on how to fix / wreck a game I love, please please STFU before you end up getting him elected. Otherwise I will be forced to believe you are nothing but a kelduum alt here to garner sympathy votes for him by making assinin arguments against him


Zandramus
I am sure your altered beliefs and disfavour will trouble forums user Poetic Stanziel's sleep for weeks.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#235 - 2012-02-15 05:23:32 UTC
Hello there Kelduum!!

Looks like we'll be having ourselves a radio chat this Saturday with Marc Scaurus? Should be fun!

Have a great week, see you then.... o/

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#236 - 2012-02-15 09:07:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Shazzam Vokanavom
Continuing with the Ornathology theme, some very rough sketches highlighting "satirical" concepts to consider: Lol

Wot?

Shat On

Pimps


(Not serious suggestions, mostly for entertainment value only)
Juicy Chanlin
Doomheim
#237 - 2012-02-15 12:37:15 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Devilish Ledoux wrote:
You could do far, far worse than having him as your advocate on the CSM.
Juicy Chanlin or Mintrolio?


Unlike you I don't dare to say I know everything about the game. Nor do I care enough to get involved in it as a CSM. To me it's just a game. Not my life.

Besides. I'm just a noob. Never denied that.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#238 - 2012-02-15 17:59:26 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Devilish Ledoux wrote:
You could do far, far worse than having him as your advocate on the CSM.
Juicy Chanlin or Mintrolio?

Poetic Stanziel?


o7 Devilish, haven't seen you in a bit, LTNS!

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#239 - 2012-02-15 20:33:15 UTC
Kelduum Revaan
The Ebon Hawk
#240 - 2012-02-15 23:35:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Kelduum Revaan
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Posting in the hope for a candidacy view on the following: Bounty Hunting


Oddly enough, we've been discussing something fairly similar to this in the Uni mumble off and on for the last few months.

Clearly the current bounty system is very much broken (by placing a bounty on someone may as well be just giving them the ISK) and it needs fixing. I can see a couple of possible sticking points however which may make implementation difficult, specifically the stuff related to standings (this could be difficult to calculate quickly) and ship/pod value (which is all 'it depends' based on location).

In general though, something along the lines detailed in that thread are pretty good, and with some refinement I can see that could become something implementable.