EVE General Discussion

Valei, I just sent you a mail. I think you may find it a lot more satisfying than dealing with all the non-helpers currently trolling your thread.

Whatever they said, IT'S A TRAP!!!!

HEY! I resemble that remark... well kind of. I started with Eve, then went over to Earth and Beyond, back to Eve, over to a bunch of other MMO's.

As for the OP, the reason that you are being "picked" on is that you have made yourself out to be a victim. Eve is a game that Jack London would have been proud of if he were into space ships. Eve very much follows the laws of tooth and claw. It is not necessarily the strong that survive, it is the tough.

Eve is danger. The whole point of the game is that intense rush of adrenalin that you get when you are risking your ship against another. I've had times playing where I've had to log off the rush was so intense. Some people enjoy that rush, other people don't. If you didn't get pleasure from that rush when you were running away from that battlecruiser, I'm sad to say that this game isn't for you. That doesn't make you a bad person, an idiot, or some stupid newb. All it makes you is unsuited to what this game caters to.

Whereas I find it fun warping into a 150 man Drake fleet in a HIC while my fleet tries to take out as many as they can before I go pop.

These threads tend to go into the direction of how hard it is to earn the big ISK while being hunted or harassed.

But even when there is no goal for earnings, sometimes dealing with the ganksters is like going into the nearest ghetto or trailer park and dealing with the kind of people who will want to beat you up just for being there.


Notice how, in the USA for example, in more than 30 states if someone wants to hurt you you can shoot them dead legally without having to run away first. That is, when someone says "I'm gonna put you in the hospital", you can draw fire, drop them where they stand, and not go to prison..

Yet those states have a lot of trailer parks or ghettos. Why are they not cleaned out of the kind of people who have nothing better to do than sit on a corner and wait for someone to come along that they can mess with?


Because even if you can dispatch "that kind of person" be it in RL or a game, dealing with them is a downer. It's a myth that killing arseholes is supposed to feel good. That's a Clint Eastwood movie fantasy thing.


So nobody goes to trailer parks or ghettos in RL - unless they are unlucky enough to live there.

Now who, in a game where you have more choices, wants to go to a virtual TP/Ghetto where there are that "kind of people" who have nothing better to do?

Same downer, same "Jerry Springer Experience", same feeling. That's not entertainment. It's not fun.

Factor in the ISK, time, etc, and there is even less reason.

When I go to 0.0, I don't use "their" gates and never use "their" stations, and have a cloak too. Indeed the OP is wrong on many counts and needs to review his approach to this. There are better ways around this problem other than being a whinosaurus on the forums. But we should not get too stuck on blaming the victim.

We can see the "join a corp" answer as usual, but that "solution" is just as bad as going alone. Having to choose between being a renter or a target is not going to make null space the huge desirable frontier that it could be. No matter how many times people say otherwise, reality and economics will trump them. Even if you like slaving for a null overlord or losing ships constantly, you eventually run out of time or ISK or both.

My solution: don't bother with 0.0 except to exploit it. Roam deep in the pockets beyond the great wall of carebear where you won't see anybody for days at a time - sometimes weeks if you hit the right constellation. Use wormholes to get in and get out, staying off their gank pipelines that they insist is the only way to get in and out (proving that sitting on gates all day does not make you a knowledgeable player) . Base out of high sec, work in null. And if they want to send a team in to bubble camp you all day, AFK cloak or log into an alt and go earn ISK doing something else.
Give them a reason to field expensive hardware but never give them a target. NEVER answer them (unless you want your faith in humanity lowered a little), but if you find something juicy, just put a link to the item in local when they smack you. That really makes them mad. They actually feel like you stole from them, and there's nothing like griefing somebody with PVE content: meaning their own ways and being the way they are fuels their own grief and you didn't have to lift a finger.

So according to you about 15 people posting in one thread against what I had to say is a majority?

You know, this really reminds me of the Republican primaries taking place right now in America.

Google "World of Warcraft" I think it'll be right up your street.

What's hair-brained about hurting your opponents while making an absolute fsckton of money at a very small cost, all while having fun in the process?

Anyway, the problem here is quite clear: the OP thinks “sandbox” means single-player creative-mode minecraft, when it's actually (unmoderated) surival-mode multiplayer minecraft… They may seem similar and even fall under the same heading, but they're not nearly the same game.

There are currently 38,564 active players on the EVE server right now, I laugh at your majority.




If you think I'm a troll then why do you all keep posting? :)