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Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7

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Simyaldee
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#541 - 2012-03-02 23:48:21 UTC
Franklin D Roosevelt wrote:
Zathryon wrote:
I dont think hes saying anything about sov mechanics...I think hes made it clear he doesnt care about sov mechanics. Roll

as a primarily null-sec person I personally like the sov mechanics, thats just my opinion.

in contrast, i think what Hans is saying is that there are changes that need to be made to low AND hi sec that are completely independent of changes to null-sec (if any, which hes not really advocating any)

I agree that low and hi sec need the most help, and thats why I like Hans

high sec exists for actual players of this game to laugh at and take advantage of. Mittani has proven this time and time again. High sec pubbies just get shat on every CSM and it will continue. They deserve it though because these are the sorts of candidates they have. You like him because you are just a pubby fetishist.


I was wondering when the trolls would come out of the woodwork. This might actually be a good thing. When someone starts trolling you that usually means that you are being seen as a legitimate candidate. It's tricky, however, to see if this is a ploy by a supporter of another CSM candidate in an attempt to discredit you. A failed attempt at that. Or simply some moron who'd think it be fun to simply throw baseless insults at you. Considering the fact that you, FDR, are yourself a pubby, and I will continue to refer to you as such until you step out from the protection of your neutral alt, you have no right to refer to someone such as Hans as a pubby.

Hans is a competent combat pilot with years of experience in small-gang warfare. Something I'm quite sure is something you find slightly hard to understand. Although if you would be willing to step out from behind the guise of your neutral alt I'm sure we would all be happy to compare our personal combat statistic's with your own. The majority of the rest of us had the testicular fortitude to post with our mains, but testicular fortitude is not something trolls are particularly known for.

This is a thread for serious questions for Hans on his views of certain aspects of Eve, as well as a public venue for those of us that support him and his candidacy to voice that support.

If you wish to troll please go somewhere else, I here the goons like to do it a lot, go attempt to bother Mittens with your pointless drivel, assuming that your not a Goon in the first place.

I look forward to hearing a sensible reply or nothing at all from your MAIN character from now on, although considering you are a troll, we will most likely hear some sort of pointless reply calling ME a pubbie without any real reason or proof, or some pointless little troll phrase that does not mean anything.

Good work at dealing with the trolls Hans, i think this is what political training consists of. Makes you wish for the cool simplicity of blowing up someone else's ship huh?

~See You Starside
Simyaldee

Member, Fighter and FC for The Great Harmon Institute of Technology 

Vordak Kallager
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#542 - 2012-03-02 23:51:51 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Courthouse wrote:
The fact is that FW has a current capture mechanic for star systems. The current mechanic is disliked, that's cool.



I suggest you take a deep breath, calm down, and reread just about everything I've had to say on the topic of Faction Warfare. Including all my audio interviews. If you've gotten this far and you think we've all been "disliking the current mechanic" you haven't been paying attention at all.



Crazy Goon is Crazy.

Honestly, Mr. Courthouse, you have consistently demonstrated that you have no idea what FW players ACTUALLY want, you just complain about how Hans is jeopardizing his campaign by not tailoring his ideas to the Nullsec bloc. Which is ridiculous. He isn't a Nullsec bloc candidate, if you haven't noticed. You cry out "I'm just trying to help you Hans!" but your "help" is a) not helpful and b) unwanted.

Thanks.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Simyaldee
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#543 - 2012-03-02 23:55:28 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Courthouse wrote:
The fact is that FW has a current capture mechanic for star systems. The current mechanic is disliked, that's cool.



I suggest you take a deep breath, calm down, and reread just about everything I've had to say on the topic of Faction Warfare. Including all my audio interviews. If you've gotten this far and you think we've all been "disliking the current mechanic" you haven't been paying attention at all.



Crazy Goon is Crazy.

Honestly, Mr. Courthouse, you have consistently demonstrated that you have no idea what FW players ACTUALLY want, you just complain about how Hans is jeopardizing his campaign by not tailoring his ideas to the Nullsec bloc. Which is ridiculous. He isn't a Nullsec bloc candidate, if you haven't noticed. You cry out "I'm just trying to help you Hans!" but your "help" is a) not helpful and b) unwanted.

Thanks.


This is pretty much what I agree to as well. But thank you Courthouse for posting with your main and at least having some coherence with your posts. Although like said above, your attempt at help is a tiny bit misguided.

Member, Fighter and FC for The Great Harmon Institute of Technology 

Courthouse
Perkone
Caldari State
#544 - 2012-03-03 01:16:53 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Honestly, Mr. Courthouse, you have consistently demonstrated that you have no idea what FW players ACTUALLY want, you just complain about how Hans is jeopardizing his campaign by not tailoring his ideas to the Nullsec bloc. Which is ridiculous. He isn't a Nullsec bloc candidate, if you haven't noticed. You cry out "I'm just trying to help you Hans!" but your "help" is a) not helpful and b) unwanted.


No, I followed what you guys were talking about, but let's be honest, you guys are idiots. if you guys had a working idea between the 30 of you you'd have managed to be 1) successful at rallying support well before this point 2) a working relationship with the CSM 3) jobs as developers.

The point here is to increase the cooperation towards a workable goal, not let you all get carried away jerking each other off because you've got a popular candidate.
Vordak Kallager
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#545 - 2012-03-03 01:40:07 UTC
Courthouse wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Honestly, Mr. Courthouse, you have consistently demonstrated that you have no idea what FW players ACTUALLY want, you just complain about how Hans is jeopardizing his campaign by not tailoring his ideas to the Nullsec bloc. Which is ridiculous. He isn't a Nullsec bloc candidate, if you haven't noticed. You cry out "I'm just trying to help you Hans!" but your "help" is a) not helpful and b) unwanted.


No, I followed what you guys were talking about, but let's be honest, you guys are idiots. if you guys had a working idea between the 30 of you you'd have managed to be 1) successful at rallying support well before this point 2) a working relationship with the CSM 3) jobs as developers.

The point here is to increase the cooperation towards a workable goal, not let you all get carried away jerking each other off because you've got a popular candidate.


bro, i think you mad.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#546 - 2012-03-03 01:59:53 UTC
hans needs to be in. Faction warfare has potential to be a big addition to the newbie and vet pvp experience. And well, as a former autoz member, that's really all they do so yeah.
Vordak Kallager
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#547 - 2012-03-03 02:09:23 UTC
Killstealing wrote:
hans needs to be in. Faction warfare has potential to be a big addition to the newbie and vet pvp experience. And well, as a former autoz member, that's really all they do so yeah.


<3

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Dread Red
#548 - 2012-03-03 02:40:59 UTC
Hans is getting my vote. I want someone who is ready from day one to speak for the greater good of all players. I'll be making sure many many highsec players vote also, and vote only for Hans Jagerblitzen!
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#549 - 2012-03-03 03:23:59 UTC
Courthouse wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Faction Warfare is just that - warfare. It's not about empire building, resource managment, logistics chains, or even a sense of permanency. If you read the lore, the militias are a legally *tolerated* defense group, born out of emergency need and are not the military themselves. We are essentially the xenophobic and patriotic crazies hanging out on the borderlands anxious for anything we can justify shooting without actually breaking the law. As actvitiy has dwindled over the years, we nowadays hardly even care about the law anymore.

Faction Warfare occupancy mechanics should revolve around fleet combat victories, not structure shoots. This isn't about what the null community has been asking for since Dominion, its about what the low sec community has been asking for since Empyrean Age. If null residents want occupancy to include revolve around structures, dreadnoughts, and POS shoots, GREAT!! I'm happy to support those changes as long as they apply to 0.0. Forcing null mechanics on a crowd that doesnt appreciate them is not only illogical, its dangerous in terms of customer retention. I'd hate to see another mini-Incarna rage summer because CCP didn't listen to the thousands of players enlisted in Faction Warfare.


Look, you need to put 5 minutes of preparation into these tirades of yours before you launch off on a tear and tell me what's up. My warning is because I want the level-headed Hans on the CSM, not the irrational circlejerk cult of personality that you're becoming.

Think about it for a moment: Ship battle victories = FW capture mechanic: Okay, GSF will go join Caldari militia and rampage through all other lowsec systems in odd hours raping anything with a signature radius and then coordinate the caldari militia to not be in lowsec for the next 20 hours, boom, caldari militia wins.


You guys won't do that. Who would tend all your carebear fields? But if you did then you would get a medal - Yay! - and you would then move on. The war would then continue.


If you stuck around long then ccp could use one of several different ways to address large imbalances in the militia forces. This could include allowing one side to bring larger ships in the smaller plexes or several other ideas.

People have thought about faction war and how it could work. Your thoughts on faction war are in their infancy. I encourage you to learn about it. Perhaps allot of you goons will realize its a great part of the game and start playing it.




Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#550 - 2012-03-03 03:37:51 UTC
Courthouse wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Honestly, Mr. Courthouse, you have consistently demonstrated that you have no idea what FW players ACTUALLY want, you just complain about how Hans is jeopardizing his campaign by not tailoring his ideas to the Nullsec bloc. Which is ridiculous. He isn't a Nullsec bloc candidate, if you haven't noticed. You cry out "I'm just trying to help you Hans!" but your "help" is a) not helpful and b) unwanted.


No, I followed what you guys were talking about, but let's be honest, you guys are idiots. if you guys had a working idea between the 30 of you you'd have managed to be 1) successful at rallying support well before this point 2) a working relationship with the CSM 3) jobs as developers.

The point here is to increase the cooperation towards a workable goal, not let you all get carried away jerking each other off because you've got a popular candidate.



The goal is to improve low sec and empire in general. That goal will be achievable if we elect hans. So, yes, lets work together and vote for him.

Now that you guys have had mittens in csm I'm sure you are all now happy with null sec right? I mean you keep saying he was super effective.

Null sec is definitely not of interest to me. It seems pretty boring and uneventful in null sec from what I am reading. But if you guys think he did such a great job wielding all his influence then I can only assume you are happy. Help us get someone who can help our part of the game.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Dread Red
#551 - 2012-03-03 03:52:09 UTC
Join me in voting for Hans Jagerblitzen, for the CSM7, Hans is the candidate that wants to make Empire space better for all players!
Dread Red
#552 - 2012-03-03 03:57:27 UTC
Will Hans Jagerblitzen be on the EVE radio debate?
Simyaldee
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#553 - 2012-03-03 07:10:17 UTC
not this one think he was already on one, unfortunately the rewind feature on Eve radio only goes back so far so i was unable to listen to it, he does however have some great Interviews with VoV and news24

Member, Fighter and FC for The Great Harmon Institute of Technology 

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#554 - 2012-03-03 08:04:13 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
If null residents want occupancy to include revolve around structures, dreadnoughts, and POS shoots, GREAT!!...


Pro-Tip: We don't.

CCP just keep giving them to us anyway because for some reason they think we do.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#555 - 2012-03-03 08:06:56 UTC
That's a warning, btw

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#556 - 2012-03-03 08:14:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Delici Feelgood
Malcanis wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
If null residents want occupancy to include revolve around structures, dreadnoughts, and POS shoots, GREAT!!...


Pro-Tip: We don't.

CCP just keep giving them to us anyway because for some reason they think we do.


Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
If null residents want occupancy to include revolve around structures, dreadnoughts, and POS shoots, GREAT!! I'm happy to support those changes as long as they apply to 0.0. Forcing null mechanics on a crowd that doesnt appreciate them is not only illogical, its dangerous in terms of customer retention. I'd hate to see another mini-Incarna rage summer because CCP didn't listen to the thousands of players enlisted in Faction Warfare.


Concerns which I would have imagined would have largely been relieved if you had read the complete paragraph in context.

I'm happy to believe that something was lost in translation however as a result (aka missrepresenting), but it seems clear to me that Hans doesn't have aspirations to promote the mechanics you are objecting to as a result. Although he was trying to be accomodating in the process of course.
Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#557 - 2012-03-03 08:35:30 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
That's a warning, btw


Considering the above, is this a mostly useless piece of health and safety advice like "mind your head" signs?

Considering that Hans is showing a "heads up" awareness to this issue I doubt he needs to borrow your special helmet on the matter as a result. Blink
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#558 - 2012-03-03 09:03:02 UTC
Hans is probably one of the most level headed candidates. He's been bringing issues before CCP and the CSM before he even decided to run for CSM. He cares about the development of the game rather than just using the CSM as a means to feed his ego. He has my vote and I will be urging everyone I know in caldari FW to vote for him for CSM.




P.S. LOL@ goon trolls
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
Wild Geese.
#559 - 2012-03-03 10:59:47 UTC
Delici Feelgood wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
That's a warning, btw


Considering the above, is this a mostly useless piece of health and safety advice like "mind your head" signs?

Considering that Hans is showing a "heads up" awareness to this issue I doubt he needs to borrow your special helmet on the matter as a result. Blink


I am happy to borrow Malcanis' helmet any time. He is one of the wisest voices on the forums, has transformed the way I personally look at certain game play issues, and been a major contributing influence on my campaign.

If I'm not misunderstood, he's just holding me to a high standard here and keeping me in check, both of which are appreciated.

Courthouse wrote:
taking a position that the measures one takes to occupy space such that it's livable not being a part of the mechanics of transferring occupancy from one group to another is an illogical platform.


^^ This is what I was responding to, where Courthouse implies that structures occupying a system should be part of the transfer of sovereignty. I am well aware that the structure grind implemented as part of Dominion is NOT popular, and I am also familiar with the farms and fields vision for null sec iterations. I said what I said only to emphasize that it should be null sec residents who have the greatest say on future of null sec space.

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary

Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#560 - 2012-03-03 11:11:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Delici Feelgood
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Delici Feelgood wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
That's a warning, btw


Considering the above, is this a mostly useless piece of health and safety advice like "mind your head" signs?

Considering that Hans is showing a "heads up" awareness to this issue I doubt he needs to borrow your special helmet on the matter as a result. Blink


I am happy to borrow Malcanis' helmet any time. He is one of the wisest voices on the forums, has transformed the way I personally look at certain game play issues, and been a major contributing influence on my campaign.

If I'm not misunderstood, he's just holding me to a high standard here and keeping me in check, both of which are appreciated.



Understood.

If I was cynical it could have been viewed due to the manipulation of what you'd said as a form of knuckle scraping intimidation as opposed to an awareness to interests.

But if you feel it is purely a sanity check then glad you can accomodate the thoughts. Understand the political savy as a result.