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Berkshire and Strohman Investments?
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Hedion Guard
Vendetta Group
#21 - 2012-02-09 22:37:56 UTC
Buruk Utama wrote:
Hedion Guard wrote:
I have been an account holder of BSI for a total of 13 days. To date below is the total profit made from 3 my investments that total only 300 million.

Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK
Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK
Total Profit Earned: 10,657,397.58 ISK
Length of Term for Profit: 13 days

BSI has kept to their words and I consider them a trustworthy company compaired to other investment firms.


Um "my investments that total only 300 million" followed by "Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK". Remember to make your numbers match next time. One is a 3.5% return and one is a .007% return which you can do better by putting the 1.5billion into a bond, or was it 3.5% on 300m, please tell us which number is the lie.


The other 1.2 billion was not earned its interest due to them being CD's. The 300 million was earning from stock held in funds that has been through one fiscal period with BSI investments.

As of February 9, 2012 my total investment amount is over 2.1 billion due to new investments. I recommend BSI to anyone who is seeking stock options, general investment funds and CD accounts ranging from 2% too 26.2% paid at maturity. Tell BSI Hedion Guard sent you..

Regards,
---Hedion Guard
morrosis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-02-16 03:52:14 UTC  |  Edited by: morrosis
As I said in my first post I would keep people up to date on how this works out.


Quote:
Dear Shareholders,

Enclosed is the Financial Report for Fiscal Period 3, 2012 which covers 2/2/2012 to 2/15/2012.

Aggressive Growth Fund (AGF)

Current Share Value (NAV): 113.06
Change over last Fiscal Period: 5.2%

Summary:
The last fiscal period saw a slight drop in the average sell price of PLEX, which drove down profits of the AGF over the previous fiscal period. T3 component sale profits, which maintains a moderate amount of weight in this fund, helped stave off the overall downward turn of PLEX. Overall demands for bonds from qualified borrowers was low in the last two weeks, as well, which impacted profits slightly for anticipated future growth.


Moderate Growth Fund (MDF)

Current Share Value (NAV): 61.28
Change over last Fiscal Period: 2.9%

Summary:
The MGF saw a very good amount of appreciation over last Fiscal Period. Ship prices and profit margins have increased due to the costs of building materials for larger durable goods such as ships. We sold off 40% of our reserve stockpile was sold at a favorable price point. Sovereignty Blockade Units, however, saw a fairly steep drip in average buy prices, which we anticipated heavy sales of due to current wars. SBU sales where slightly anemic, however, and currently held stocks of SBU's will be maintained until we can sell them again during a market upswing.


Conservative Growth Fund (CGF)

Current Share Value (NAV): 33.90
Change over last Fiscal Period: 2.4%

Summary:
Spiking appreciation especially in the Tritanium market has led to a very profitable lift in this fund's value. We anticipated this surge from both major alliances rushing to build more supercaps and also due to the fact that many residents from the Drone Regions, which contributes a metric ton of minerals to the market, currently fighting rather than gun mining for drone alloys.


Other News:
Congratulations to Leftrick11b for being the winner of the BSI Big Ship Giveaway. Please let us know what ship you would like (up to a value of 200 Million ISK) and we will contract it to you at Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant.

Since many of you love statistics, I thought I'd share some with you in regards to BSI:

New Accounts since 2/1/2012: 74
Total Deposits since last Fiscal Period: 44.4 Billion ISK
Total Profit Returns on Share Payouts since IPO: 17.81 Billion ISK

and my favorite....

Number of Service Complaints from Customers: 0

As we grow and bring on new customers, we are also looking at ways we can automate both deposits, withdrawal request, and account transfers. A website is currently being built and it's my hope we can fully it work out all the bugs before going live. We believe such automation efforts are well worth the investment because it will minimize errors and offer an easy place for customers to get many of the answers they seek while myself and Sarillis are offline.

Once again, we appreciate your business and we will always strive to offer you the best customer service, the safest avenue to invest your ISK, and become the #1 Corporation to go to when looking for investment vehicles that are based off of sound financial decisions and management.


Kindest Regards,

Hodsworth Berkshire
CEO
Berkshire and Strohman Investments


So far, I've made 5.2 million from this which for two weeks is ok.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-02-16 08:04:48 UTC
morrosis wrote:
As I said in my first post I would keep people up to date on how this works out.


Quote:
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So far, I've made 5.2 million from this which for two weeks is ok.

unrealized profits best profits.

.
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#24 - 2012-02-16 21:45:46 UTC
morrosis wrote:
Dear Shareholders,

Enclosed is the Financial Report for Fiscal Period 3, 2012 which covers 2/2/2012 to 2/15/2012.

Aggressive Growth Fund (AGF)

Current Share Value (NAV): 113.06
Change over last Fiscal Period: 5.2%

Summary:
The last fiscal period saw a slight drop in the average sell price of PLEX, which drove down profits of the AGF over the previous fiscal period. T3 component sale profits, which maintains a moderate amount of weight in this fund, helped stave off the overall downward turn of PLEX. Overall demands for bonds from qualified borrowers was low in the last two weeks, as well, which impacted profits slightly for anticipated future growth.


Moderate Growth Fund (MDF)

Current Share Value (NAV): 61.28
Change over last Fiscal Period: 2.9%

Summary:
The MGF saw a very good amount of appreciation over last Fiscal Period. Ship prices and profit margins have increased due to the costs of building materials for larger durable goods such as ships. We sold off 40% of our reserve stockpile was sold at a favorable price point. Sovereignty Blockade Units, however, saw a fairly steep drip in average buy prices, which we anticipated heavy sales of due to current wars. SBU sales where slightly anemic, however, and currently held stocks of SBU's will be maintained until we can sell them again during a market upswing.


Conservative Growth Fund (CGF)

Current Share Value (NAV): 33.90
Change over last Fiscal Period: 2.4%

Summary:
Spiking appreciation especially in the Tritanium market has led to a very profitable lift in this fund's value. We anticipated this surge from both major alliances rushing to build more supercaps and also due to the fact that many residents from the Drone Regions, which contributes a metric ton of minerals to the market, currently fighting rather than gun mining for drone alloys.


This looks like someone cut random phrases out of the Wall Street Journal and pasted them together. What a load of baloney.
Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-02-17 11:54:05 UTC
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:

This looks like someone cut random phrases out of the Wall Street Journal and pasted them together. What a load of baloney.


Of course it is, but it is nicely packaged and well written with complete generalities that make it sound legit and will lure in more chumps. Hint to new players: if the bond player isn't willing to directly state the details in clear statements then they are likely glossing over funny numbers and scams.

But it's easy to translate which I find enjoyable so lets do them a favor and make it readable:

AGF: We lost our asses to PLEX not going through through 500m and are losing money for each sale. T3 components plugged the bleeding some but we're still bleeding (read losing money). Finally, we couldn't find enough borrowers to fall for our overpriced loans which means no free isk from interest.

MDF: We sold our current ship stock at higher prices than before because of Trit, but we made more money just selling raw resources on hand. Losing money on SBU and Blockades as we thought alliances would seek these for the war, we didn't anticipate they probably had their own in-house builders who would build these in 0.0 instead of shipping them out to 0.0.

CGF: We sold Trit at a higher profit than before which is the only asset in this class.
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#26 - 2012-02-17 18:05:03 UTC
It isn't well written at all.

For example: "Overall demands for bonds from qualified borrowers was low in the last two weeks, as well, which impacted profits slightly for anticipated future growth."

It appears to be well written because the average reader playing the game is a dope. You could say it makes a convincing con that targets the unsophisticated player. Any intelligent person is going to laugh.
Tidurious
Blatant Alt Corp
#27 - 2012-02-17 18:08:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tidurious
Berkshire and Strohman Investments = the next 'Phaser Inc.', etc.

I think that's about all that needs to be said...

EDIT: However, Phaser Inc. was much better looking, had an actual website where you created your account to watch the ISK you were scammed out of grow until they admitted it was a scam. Try harder B&I!
morrosis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-02-27 09:31:00 UTC
We have a scam people,

Quote:
Sad News... Tonight I had a very tense conversation with Hodsworth. He was fed up with all the trolls and he snapped. He changed the passwords for all the trading alts are changed, he took everything from the wallet, and I don't have access to the rest of the assets. I'll try my best to talk to him and get the ISK back to at least liquidate. You guys don't deserve this. I'm sorry.

The conversation is pasted below.



--------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: (('corpid', 98067238),) Channel Name: Corp Listener: Hodsworth Berkshire Session started: 2012.02.27 05:21:22---------------------------------------------------------------[ 2012.02.27 05:22:08 ][ 2012.02.27 05:26:41 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > This is bullshit. I'm ******* tired of putting up with this crap.
[ 2012.02.27 05:26:55 ] Sarillis Strohman > What do you mean?
[ 2012.02.27 05:27:17 ] Sarillis Strohman > Getting wife aggro again? XD
[ 2012.02.27 05:27:26 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > Every ******* day, I'm trying to talk to customers, do my ******* work on this business, and all I get is **** on by trolls!
[ 2012.02.27 05:27:57 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > Just earlier a whole group of the motherfuckers came into BSI Holdings and just starting crapping up the entire place, saying this was a scam blah blah blah.
[ 2012.02.27 05:28:17 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > I work my goddamned ass off too hard to put up with this crap.
[ 2012.02.27 05:28:19 ] Sarillis Strohman > So.. They've never phased you before.
[ 2012.02.27 05:28:51 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > They've always pissed me off. But I'm done. I've reached my breaking point with these ******* retards.
[ 2012.02.27 05:29:02 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > They all say "Ooooh, this is another Phaser Inc."
[ 2012.02.27 05:29:04 ] Sarillis Strohman > Alright I'll talk to them from now on
[ 2012.02.27 05:29:14 ] Sarillis Strohman > If it's bothering you that much
[ 2012.02.27 05:29:17 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > No **** it. I'm done talking....and you know what?
[ 2012.02.27 05:29:33 ] Sarillis Strohman > Just take a few days off.
[ 2012.02.27 05:29:35 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > This god damn gamed ******* sucks. The majority of the people on here are terrible.
[ 2012.02.27 05:29:38 ] Sarillis Strohman > I can handle the numbers.
[ 2012.02.27 05:30:16 ] Sarillis Strohman > Oh, don't be so negative...
[ 2012.02.27 05:30:31 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > No **** it. I'm done. This is done. Everyone seems to want this to be a scam, they want to see the big ******* article about how we scammed everyone.
[ 2012.02.27 05:31:14 ] Sarillis Strohman > It's really not that big of a deal...
[ 2012.02.27 05:31:25 ] Sarillis Strohman > Just relax a bit alright?
[ 2012.02.27 05:31:30 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > Well you know what? They want a scam, fine. They want the tears? Fine. I'm gonna give them exactly what they ******* want, because that's what I do.
[ 2012.02.27 05:32:03 ] Sarillis Strohman > What did you just do???
[ 2012.02.27 05:32:15 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > I'm ******* taking all of this ****.
[ 2012.02.27 05:32:27 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > And you know what I'm gonna do with it?
[ 2012.02.27 05:32:46 ] Sarillis Strohman > What the **** are you talking about?
[ 2012.02.27 05:33:23 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > I'm gonna find the first noob I can and I'm gonna give all of this **** to him. I'm about to make someone the luckiest newbie in all of Eve.
[ 2012.02.27 05:33:44 ] Sarillis Strohman > You can't do this to our investors!
[ 2012.02.27 05:34:00 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > You know what, I just don't give a flying **** anymore!
[ 2012.02.27 05:34:09 ] Sarillis Strohman > You must be joking?
[ 2012.02.27 05:34:42 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > Nope. I'm serious as a heart attack. After I give this **** away, the ISK, the freighters, the assets, this character is gone and I'm done.
[ 2012.02.27 05:35:43 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired. I've never found a game where people get so much pleasure from ******* over others...but since that's what they want so bad, they can have it.
[ 2012.02.27 05:36:14 ] Sarillis Strohman > Please, just at least let us liquidate. You can't be serious!
[ 2012.02.27 05:36:31 ] Sarillis Strohman > All that ******* work!
[ 2012.02.27 05:36:35 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > And someone's going who's not even expecting it that has no idea how crappy this game is will soon find themselves never having to worry a day in their lives for ISK.
[ 2012.02.27 05:36:39 ] Sarillis Strohman > Months!
[ 2012.02.27 05:36:47 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > It was obviously for nothing, and I'm sorry.
[ 2012.02.27 05:36:53 ] Sarillis Strohman > MONTHS We've spent on this!
[ 2012.02.27 05:37:03 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > My minds set.
[ 2012.02.27 05:37:24 ] Sarillis Strohman > You dumb ****!
[ 2012.02.27 05:37:51 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > It's not personal, but you never told me when you invited me to play this game that people where like this.
[ 2012.02.27 05:38:09 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > I'm used to dealing with creeps, with assholes at my job. But these people eare 100x worse.
[ 2012.02.27 05:38:10 ] Sarillis Strohman > You're being just like them!
[ 2012.02.27 05:38:36 ] Sarillis Strohman > FFS This is unbelievable!
[ 2012.02.27 05:38:40 ] Sarillis Strohman > Are you listening to yourself?
[ 2012.02.27 05:38:43 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > Don't you understand? They feed on ******* **** like this. Let them choke on it.
[ 2012.02.27 05:39:32 ] Hodsworth Berkshire > I'm sorry. I'm done.


I invested 100 mill, not a massive loss or anything I am going to feel. Will let people know what happens.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#29 - 2012-02-27 10:13:39 UTC
That's seriously a horribly written scam log. Clearly he's trying WAY too hard. Big smile

I can totally see Hayden Christensen whining that whole speech out.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#30 - 2012-02-27 11:01:30 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
That's seriously a horribly written scam log. Clearly he's trying WAY too hard. Big smile


I find it telling that both of the "characters" involved used capitalization and punctuation in exactly the same manners.

Also, my favorite line:
[ 2012.02.27 05:33:44 ] Sarillis Strohman > You can't do this to our investors!

http://www.wormholes.info
Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#31 - 2012-02-27 11:21:37 UTC
So, how much did they walk away with? Roll
morrosis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-02-27 11:47:47 UTC
No idea, shot off an email asking
Chevalleis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-02-27 13:38:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Chevalleis
Nathan Jameson wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
That's seriously a horribly written scam log. Clearly he's trying WAY too hard. Big smile


I find it telling that both of the "characters" involved used capitalization and punctuation in exactly the same manners.

Also, my favorite line:
[ 2012.02.27 05:33:44 ] Sarillis Strohman > You can't do this to our investors!

Was about to quote the same exact line.

E: Also, I hope everyone that believed in this lost bigtime.

E2: Also, I bet they had fun writing that dialog together :P
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#34 - 2012-02-27 15:45:50 UTC
What a well written script. Not
Hedion Guard
Vendetta Group
#35 - 2012-02-28 21:50:44 UTC
Yet another scam. This time for certain.
Hans Zwaardhandler
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#36 - 2012-02-28 22:17:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Hans Zwaardhandler
Meh. More care needs to be taken next time.

Quote:
E: Also, I hope everyone that believed in this lost bigtime.


Nope.
Julian Koll
The Kollektive
#37 - 2012-02-28 22:28:52 UTC
oh, already. i feel kinda disappointed. had hoped for something more long term, more tear worthy.

shame on you, berkman and strohshire, shame on you. next time, run it for half a year or more, so more of those bloody morons that believe in this kind of crap lose their isk.
Hedion Guard
Vendetta Group
#38 - 2012-02-29 00:21:10 UTC
Buruk Utama wrote:
Hedion Guard wrote:
I have been an account holder of BSI for a total of 13 days. To date below is the total profit made from 3 my investments that total only 300 million.

Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK
Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK
Total Profit Earned: 10,657,397.58 ISK
Length of Term for Profit: 13 days

BSI has kept to their words and I consider them a trustworthy company compaired to other investment firms.


Um "my investments that total only 300 million" followed by "Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK". Remember to make your numbers match next time. One is a 3.5% return and one is a .007% return which you can do better by putting the 1.5billion into a bond, or was it 3.5% on 300m, please tell us which number is the lie.


My investments were for asset allocation rather then just for interest earning.
Hans Zwaardhandler
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#39 - 2012-02-29 02:27:57 UTC
Right now, it seems like nice old Mr. Hodsworth Berkshire is taking a leaf out of Bernie Madoff's book.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#40 - 2012-02-29 03:30:29 UTC
Hedion Guard wrote:
Buruk Utama wrote:
Hedion Guard wrote:
I have been an account holder of BSI for a total of 13 days. To date below is the total profit made from 3 my investments that total only 300 million.

Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK
Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK
Total Profit Earned: 10,657,397.58 ISK
Length of Term for Profit: 13 days

BSI has kept to their words and I consider them a trustworthy company compaired to other investment firms.


Um "my investments that total only 300 million" followed by "Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK". Remember to make your numbers match next time. One is a 3.5% return and one is a .007% return which you can do better by putting the 1.5billion into a bond, or was it 3.5% on 300m, please tell us which number is the lie.


My investments were for asset allocation rather then just for interest earning.

Congratulations in investing right into a scam I guess? Roll

Wait, alt, never mind. Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK still.
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