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begining miner

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razor34 roxbury
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-02-07 00:24:56 UTC
ok i have mining 4, working on science 4, and industry. if u havent figured im training toward a retriever/ coveter.

what would some skills be good to train in other then the obvious for a miner?

i mainly mine kernite/pyroxeres and will train there refinery skills

any suggestions?
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#2 - 2012-02-07 07:09:27 UTC
My suggestion for XP-Skills:Cap Skills (Energy Management, Energy Systems Operation 4), Shield Skills (Skip the Specific Compensations Skills and get the rest to 4) and Drone Skills (Drones, Scout Drones 5, either Gallente or Minmatar Spec 2 and Drone Interfacing 4), Ship Command 5 and Evasive Maneuvering 4 (gets you out faster)

My suggestion for Soft-Skills: Learn to use the D-scan and the local as a mean of Intel.

More Suggestions: Get into WH, Null or Lowsec Mining and learn PvP. Not neccesarily much but enough to contribute to a home defense fleet. Learn to defend, what is yours.
Mona X
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-02-07 10:29:06 UTC
Forget about mining, it's job for slaves and bots.
Go for missions then incursions instead, at least you'll have some useful skills.

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razor34 roxbury
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-02-08 00:00:19 UTC
Mona X wrote:
Forget about mining, it's job for slaves and bots.
Go for missions then incursions instead, at least you'll have some useful skills.


personally i like mining, especially when a mining contract brings in 30-40 mill
Mona X
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-08 01:05:09 UTC
Then I strongly advice getting Stargate. All 3 movies and 17 seasons of them. Lol

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razor34 roxbury
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-02-08 04:05:27 UTC
first i love stargate and have all of that

second: lets stay on topic and would like a better answer then "dont mine"
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#7 - 2012-02-08 14:37:16 UTC
you are going to want all your support skills maxed. electronics and engineering have several that affect cpu and power grid. you will need them to get max yield.

Even once you get into a hulk it is nice to be able to fit two t2 mining upgrades and still have a little left for tank. Good shield skills really help as well.

Drones are important as even in a retriever you can hold 5 light drones which are more than enough to deal with high sec rats. 5 warrior II drones even give a decent defense against high sec gankers. They will waste a gank destroyer long before it breaks a hulks tank. And if you do not need the drones for defense 5 T2 mining drones with good support skills can give a decent boost to your yield.

Just ignore the idiots that say don't mine. It may be the lowest isk/hour profession in EVE but it is also the safest. And can be done semi afk with very little risk. I run a small mining fleet with 4 accounts 3 hulks and an ORCA. usually run them from work semi afk and run missions or exploration sites when I can devote my full attention to the game. Since the mining is done mostly afk for several hours at a time it actually brings in way more isk per month for me than mission running a couple hours a few nights a week.

Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#8 - 2012-02-08 15:49:05 UTC
razor34 roxbury wrote:
any suggestions?


Find an alliance with a good industrial wing. They will likely run operations with support ships like an Orca or combat ships to defend.

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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#9 - 2012-02-09 04:11:52 UTC
Train what effects your mining cruiser first!

If it's a drone boat get T2 mining drones then skill the rest toward retriever.

If it's a mining laser boat focus on the lasers.

Then do everything else that gets you into a retriever the fastest.

Stay out of 0.7 and under since a destroyer can gank you solo pretty easy when your flying a retriever.

If you use GSC's stay in 0.7.
Deathwing Malevolent
The Unclaimed
Unclaimable
#10 - 2012-02-09 14:21:43 UTC
Karak Bol wrote:
My suggestion for XP-Skills:Cap Skills (Energy Management, Energy Systems Operation 4), Shield Skills (Skip the Specific Compensations Skills and get the rest to 4) and Drone Skills (Drones, Scout Drones 5, either Gallente or Minmatar Spec 2 and Drone Interfacing 4), Ship Command 5 and Evasive Maneuvering 4 (gets you out faster)

My suggestion for Soft-Skills: Learn to use the D-scan and the local as a mean of Intel.

More Suggestions: Get into WH, Null or Lowsec Mining and learn PvP. Not neccesarily much but enough to contribute to a home defense fleet. Learn to defend, what is yours.


This is pretty good advice for looking outside the standard skills (mining, refining, etc.). I would definitely advise training up shield skills to avoid ganks. As an addendum on refining you only need to train the specialised skills (e.g. Pyro Processing) to level 3 for max refining. It also makes sense to get your standing at the station you use for refining to over 6.5 to end up with the maximum possible 99.5% refining efficiency. This is done by running missions for agents from that corporation, quite often they have nice easy mining/distribution missions so you don't need to get involved in combat.
razor34 roxbury
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-02-09 21:56:58 UTC
Deathwing Malevolent wrote:
Karak Bol wrote:
My suggestion for XP-Skills:Cap Skills (Energy Management, Energy Systems Operation 4), Shield Skills (Skip the Specific Compensations Skills and get the rest to 4) and Drone Skills (Drones, Scout Drones 5, either Gallente or Minmatar Spec 2 and Drone Interfacing 4), Ship Command 5 and Evasive Maneuvering 4 (gets you out faster)

My suggestion for Soft-Skills: Learn to use the D-scan and the local as a mean of Intel.

More Suggestions: Get into WH, Null or Lowsec Mining and learn PvP. Not neccesarily much but enough to contribute to a home defense fleet. Learn to defend, what is yours.


This is pretty good advice for looking outside the standard skills (mining, refining, etc.). I would definitely advise training up shield skills to avoid ganks. As an addendum on refining you only need to train the specialised skills (e.g. Pyro Processing) to level 3 for max refining. It also makes sense to get your standing at the station you use for refining to over 6.5 to end up with the maximum possible 99.5% refining efficiency. This is done by running missions for agents from that corporation, quite often they have nice easy mining/distribution missions so you don't need to get involved in combat.


kk in a corp, low sec, have the cap skills(ty for the suggestion) and working on retriever so the others will have to wait
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#12 - 2012-02-09 22:03:06 UTC
A pleasure to help. If you have more questions, shot me a pm.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#13 - 2012-02-10 22:29:54 UTC  |  Edited by: MadMuppet
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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#14 - 2012-02-10 22:30:55 UTC  |  Edited by: MadMuppet
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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#15 - 2012-02-10 22:31:09 UTC
http://www.eve-wiki.net/images/9/93/Reprocessing_tables.PNG

If you are going to refine your own stuff, you will want to look at this chart(the bottom chart is the one you'll use in most NPC stations). Generally speaking refining is at 50% in NPC stations. This means that if you train Refining to 5 and Refinery Efficiency to 4 and each ore specific skill to 1 you will get at 100% refine on the materials (you still need standings to avoid the taxes at the station). The only reason you would train the ore specifics higher is for mining crystals, ore compression (Rorqual), or if you were refining at a POS.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#16 - 2012-02-10 22:36:16 UTC
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#17 - 2012-02-11 00:08:07 UTC
Don't neglect training drones if you are a miner, as they are your only defense.

You should should train for at least a battlecruiser, because sooner or later you will be in a war.

You will also want to gain 6.67 standing with an NPC corporation with lots of 50% base refining facilities, and security (combat) missions are by far the best way to do that.
Disco Knightly
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-02-11 03:48:17 UTC
Don't do it! If you must mine, then gun-mine with a mission toon and a Noctis. That way when you get tired of all that senseless grinding you'll have the right skills to release your pent up frustration by shooting someone in the face.

You'd be better off getting yourself a maxed mission/ / Incursion runner in a Tengu to churn out some iskies and then buying an alt miner. If you do nothing but mining on your main, you'll rage-quit after some 12-year old suicide ganks you and you figure out that the only recourse you have is to moan impotently on the forums about how evil the people in this game are.