Out of Pod Experience

TV show wise, Star Treck wouldnt win or be close to winning.

Another reason why star treck would lose.

Pod capsuleeers cant die.

Starship federation officers do.

Also last i checked the federation only had what? 1 shipyard?

Finally books aside, why does it seem that every possible reference to demonstrate this extreme range you proclaim has never been exhibited not only the tv shows but the games as well?

phaser range seems much more closer to 2kms. photon torpdeos never seem to warp and in reality the warp drive star trek uses has been disqualified as not even remotely possible becuase that requires space to be absolutely empty which it isnt.

doenst help there are absoltuely 0 youtube videos of these 'long range battles' either a true testament to the non existence to the range. Screw cinimatics. Battlestar pulled off a 200km apart battle just fine.

... that was a battlecruiser on carrier sized ship in eve at well within blaster ranges.

Also shields in star trek how do they work?

Best thoerist say its paritcle based for various reasons which opens a crap ton of bypasses.

Also may I mention that whoever designed federation (or any star trek ship) isnt military minded at ALL?

So, let me get this straight: Voyager is closing at thousands of kilometers per second, opens fire, and then comes to a complete stop at point blank range just in time for the exterior shot, for no apparent reason. The closing speed that is shown in that clip (and all speeds later on in the fight) are much, much lower, and the ranges are less than a ship length.

If Voyager is capable of fighting effectively at 2000km+ range and 1000km/s+ speed, why is that only a tiny percentage of the battle (at most)?


Alternative explanation: the character reading out the ranges meant to say either "2000 meters" or "2 kilometers' (it would hardly be the first time someone mis-spoke in the middle of a stressful situation), which fits much better with what we actually see happening in the battle.

He's not done his title of trekkie is at stake.

Also for a ship to fire at the ranges hes claiming it needs to be 8kms long apature capable of handeling the heat dispersion. So in a true design warship that would be soemthing the size of a titan maybe? and that is not even a turreted system.

Im sorry but throwing photons out that far is much less feasible than throwing warp drives at each other. I am more inclinded to belive photon (which is acutally an anti-matter reactor warhead according to you trekkies that have the technical bible) has the multi kilometer range.

Now then

Your super computer is an idiot trekkies, It was explained by photon torpedos have to mix their reactive warhead for at least 1 second and this is a visual consistently though out the entire series that when the targets are alot closer the warhead seems to go alot SLOWER to allow enough time to mix the reaciton. If your super computer cant slave in a phaser to slice that warhead in half wtf? wtf are you still using effing missiles for if it CANT EFFING TRACK A WARP DRIVE THAT CLOSE? Highly accurate lasers and smarter computers killed the carriers in honor harrigton series for the longest time in space warfare.

I mean seriously a warp drive is screamingly bloody mary on the the 'noise' level sensor wise within star treks own universe, eve hasn't demonstrate the technology but microwarp drives are massively noisy as well.

Also if its 30 isotonns why doesnt it do city scale destruction after punching though ship armor? Having nuke punch though the armor and go off is a kill shot and its been well proven that star trek ships have some pertty pathetic armor even on thier 'war ships.'

Movies have no excuse to say well its not in the budget or that nonesense.
Im sorry but your directors where not creative enough to show interesting fights at such long ranges. A battlestar in the newest series was shoveling out with three base star in the first episode about 200kms out away from each other, thier distances are extremly much further apart than anything ever visually dictated in star trek ever and unlike star trek a battlestar doesnt magically dodge a missile and has consistenly showned that the mk1 eyeball is good enough to shoot down a missile.

Another thing I have yet to see the lucky kill shot in star trek that involves popping the interia stab mid break neck intant pancakes speeds.

Also shields in trek are significnatly weaker and more vunerable and are particle based. Also somone else has been an idiot and not designed radio active weapons that have clearly shown to go though trek shields.

Ill also state it again nobody miltiary minded has ever designed a real warship in star trek, not the romulans not the klingons and definetly not the defiant.

Also if trek sensors are so freaking accurate and working well why in the hell cloaks still work? After 40 years of contact with the technology as well.

Ultimately every time a trek goes into battle in the series people should have died in droves every time the shields dropped adnt hey got nailed they have way to many living spaces and didnt internally armored thier insides or actively SHIELD them either. Its a miracle thier super computer is smart enough to keep air inside god forbid they lose power with these not so good blast doors ajar.

Then electronic warfare? Why hasnt anyone done shield harmonics or counter harmonics? I am pertty sure most ST ships have a sig radius more massive than the ship itself where as most eve ships have passive stealthing until you get to the capitol classes.

Also if the federation where to fight eve all we have to do is ram into them.

You also forget the cyno field generation tech eve has.

And also note that there are alot of other technologies not mentioned yet thats in use in eve that would make trekkies go hmmmm. Caldari for example use black hole reactors similar to your romulans and the reactors in eve are in multiples and in more number so it really begs the question is how much standarization of measuring units we lost in the last 15k years in eve?

Who light year is it we're using? Whos AU, is our km correct? slew of other things that may not exactly survived three resets ( (three dark ages) in new eden.

Next up we could go hyper hypothetical bringing in eve's terrans in but that would make you trekkies cry.

I mean if a battleship sized weapon can sink 18kms of warship in a single shot along with her escorting tonnages I can see what it would do to the federations only shipyard.

and ultimately we're immortal and we can afford to be bigger assholes. How many federation ships would survive survie a thorax kinetic missile slamming into it. slamming an entire titan into los angeles at warp speed. I know lighting off a cyno in the atmosphere that would really screw earth's day up and even better remass the ship on another colonized planet.

Finally Stars are quite capable of killing trek ships, why in the hell thier 'more powerful' phasers cant?

"With great power comes great responsibility" - Voltaire

Oh, and you have still ignored the evidence of ships actually fighting at warp speeds.

You can link me 5000 videos of them not doing so, but unless you can discredit the fact they CAN ACTUALLY IF THEY WANT TO then Trek ships will ALWAYS be able to gain range if they want to.

It didnt look like light speed to me.... light was still visible.

Also distances are based on visuals present both in real life which is pertty close eve's representing ship visual distances. frigates 10kms off are small as dots smilar to massive boeing 747s at similar distances.

From that alone and the size of the average ship in star trek most fights are visually represented within METERS of each other. Not Megameters not kilometers. meters.

Closest Ive seen in eve visually to what star treck has often is a battlecruise 3kms off the bow of a 1km long battleship.

To get a visual similary in eve with said ships would require them to be about 500 meters from each other.

Also star trek over designs reliance on shields. If I was a star battelship captain I be nailing bridges and breaking the nacels off and would have multiple attack vectors as star trecks obviously thinks that having resassinable shields is an advantage in which in a military situtation is utterly stupider. I also wouldnt have 1 fire control where a percise shot would take out all of my weapons.