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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-02-06 03:54:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Reputation is everything in EVE, more important then ISK or SP or killboard stats.
Being able to effectively change your identity on a whim is a terrible idea for that reason.

Luckily I thought EVE might be an RP game so I decided I should have a fitting name.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#22 - 2012-02-06 04:02:34 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Reputation is everything in EVE, more important then ISK or SP or killboard stats.
Being able to effectively change your identity on a whim is a terrible idea for that reason.

Luckily I thought EVE might be an RP game so I decided I should have a fitting name.


Agreed.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#23 - 2012-02-06 04:04:43 UTC
If you dont understand why you need ot start your own allaicne and have it torn apart by a traitor (its going to happen consdering your level of experince) and you will then know why entirely.

Hell it could happen at corp level

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Rene Fullchest
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-02-06 10:47:27 UTC
Lorik Q'uin wrote:
Rene Fullchest wrote:
You keep coming back to various forms of "I don't understand why...".

That is a true statement. However, your inability to understand does not make your idea any more original or valid.

That you don't understand is a function of your inability to recognize that the idea has been brought up many, many times before and shot down, not by the players alone, but by CCP. It's bad gameplay and mechanics.


You know the amount of people sitting behind their computer screen who like to jump into random threads and insult people never ceases to amaze me. Please go insult someone who deserves it, because I really don't think I have done anything to deserve it. I am sorry for asking a question and trying to have a discussion, as I said I am new. But yes I keep coming back to not understanding why because, yes, I don't understand the erroneous logic behind this whole situation. I will leave it at that though, since it seems nobody really cares about it anyways. Thanks to all the non-d-bags who posted in this thread.


If you think that was insulting then I doubt that Eve is your game.

Not understanding something does not make it erroneous. It simply makes it not understood. Have you yet gone back to review the countless other threads on this subject? You admitted above that you had not, so I suggest that your lack of understanding is directly related to that, not some failure of logic, unless you are really admitting to a failure of logic on your part.

Oh, and BTW, this is actually me being nice and helpful. You'd hate to see me on days when I actually intend to be a d-bag.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#25 - 2012-02-06 10:54:31 UTC
boseo wrote:
I want to turn the stupid lower case b to an upper-case B on this character, never noticed how annoying it was until recently


Just want to add that it is possible (doesn't matter how old you are) to get a lowercase like 'b' turned into an uppercase 'B'.

Just ask for it politely. :)
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#26 - 2012-02-06 11:13:46 UTC
Lorik Q'uin wrote:
I know, the topic in and of itself is a broken record. Though I am relatively new to the game, I am well aware that this has been an ongoing topic, and it is seemingly something that will never happen. I am not sure if my suggestion is in the right place, but I think there is a simple way to allow one to change your character name without allowing people to hide. Everyone has an employment history of their corps and alliances, so why not have a name history as well? Adding one tab to the pilot info area that will show what all past names of a player are. It just seems so obvious, I would like to know if this particular idea has been brought up before, and if so what are the arguments against it.


If I am playing in one area and I know I have to watch out for a pirate called "Evil Badguy", the last thing I want to have to do is check the name history of every single pilot wo is in the system, and every one who enters the system just in case that player named "Nope Nothingtoseehere" has the names "Evil Badguy" in his name history tab.

You have just made the game infinatly more tedious because you cant stick with your chosen name.

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#27 - 2012-02-06 11:22:02 UTC
But I'm a noob and don't understand ur logic because I'm dumb. I should go back to wow or one of those inconsequential sharded games.

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-02-06 11:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: DarkAegix
In a game with 3 alts per character, untraceable separate accounts, and a metagame where all the high-level, actually important discussions happen over Teamspeak or a third party server not even connected to character names, I don't see why a 'name history' tab on a character's public info would be such a big deal.

Name & identity changes happen in real life. Why should EVE be in easy-mode? With a name history tab, it'd still take an absolute fool to recruit a corp-thief, or similar. Not much will change.
J Kunjeh
#29 - 2012-02-06 11:38:39 UTC
As long as there is an "alias history" tab on the character info sheet, I see no problem at all allowing name changes for a fee (micro-plex, or ISK). Supported! (though this is the wrong forum for this discussion and it's already been discussed in F&I probably 20 times).

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#30 - 2012-02-06 11:46:13 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Lorik Q'uin wrote:
I know, the topic in and of itself is a broken record. Though I am relatively new to the game, I am well aware that this has been an ongoing topic, and it is seemingly something that will never happen. I am not sure if my suggestion is in the right place, but I think there is a simple way to allow one to change your character name without allowing people to hide. Everyone has an employment history of their corps and alliances, so why not have a name history as well? Adding one tab to the pilot info area that will show what all past names of a player are. It just seems so obvious, I would like to know if this particular idea has been brought up before, and if so what are the arguments against it.


If I am playing in one area and I know I have to watch out for a pirate called "Evil Badguy", the last thing I want to have to do is check the name history of every single pilot wo is in the system, and every one who enters the system just in case that player named "Nope Nothingtoseehere" has the names "Evil Badguy" in his name history tab.

You have just made the game infinatly more tedious because you cant stick with your chosen name.

Since you can't read the thread before chiming in.

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Rene Fullchest
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-02-06 11:48:06 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Lorik Q'uin wrote:
I know, the topic in and of itself is a broken record. Though I am relatively new to the game, I am well aware that this has been an ongoing topic, and it is seemingly something that will never happen. I am not sure if my suggestion is in the right place, but I think there is a simple way to allow one to change your character name without allowing people to hide. Everyone has an employment history of their corps and alliances, so why not have a name history as well? Adding one tab to the pilot info area that will show what all past names of a player are. It just seems so obvious, I would like to know if this particular idea has been brought up before, and if so what are the arguments against it.


If I am playing in one area and I know I have to watch out for a pirate called "Evil Badguy", the last thing I want to have to do is check the name history of every single pilot wo is in the system, and every one who enters the system just in case that player named "Nope Nothingtoseehere" has the names "Evil Badguy" in his name history tab.

You have just made the game infinatly more tedious because you cant stick with your chosen name.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-02-06 12:07:21 UTC
Jint Hikarus wrote:

If I am playing in one area and I know I have to watch out for a pirate called "Evil Badguy", the last thing I want to have to do is check the name history of every single pilot wo is in the system, and every one who enters the system just in case that player named "Nope Nothingtoseehere" has the names "Evil Badguy" in his name history tab.

You have just made the game infinatly more tedious because you cant stick with your chosen name.

Alternatively, you give the character negative standings so you can see them pop up in local, or whatever intel thing CCP are planning in the future.
You know, like what a fully capable and intelligent human being would do.
RaTTuS
BIG
#33 - 2012-02-06 12:09:05 UTC
boseo wrote:
I want to turn the stupid lower case b to an upper-case B on this character, never noticed how annoying it was until recently

you can get this done - it does not matter how old your are as it's not a breaker ....
changing thins other than capitalization is a breaker though

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Lorik Q'uin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-02-06 12:31:35 UTC
I don't need to read previous threads to realize that one of the main arguments is in regards to someone, such as a pirate, hiding by changing their name on a frequent basis. The fact of the matter is, alls they have to do is create an alt or get another account all together, and they are in the wind. I do see where the opposing side is coming from, we just all have our own opinions. I see this argument can go round and round all day so let's agree to disagree.
Alexandra Alt
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-02-06 13:12:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexandra Alt
It's a btch when you make a char 4 years ago, where you have no idea whatsoever how the game works, and you end up regretting the name you picked ever since you started pvp and learned that you'll die really really fast if your name starts with an A, except if you fight goons.... (which is what I rather right now, at least I'm not the first to die)....

This kind of situations are **** for the player, has nothing to do with getting away with reputation or anything, I just want to enjoy more than 30 seconds in a battle...
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#36 - 2012-02-06 13:43:53 UTC
Lorik Q'uin wrote:
Rene Fullchest wrote:
You keep coming back to various forms of "I don't understand why...".

That is a true statement. However, your inability to understand does not make your idea any more original or valid.

That you don't understand is a function of your inability to recognize that the idea has been brought up many, many times before and shot down, not by the players alone, but by CCP. It's bad gameplay and mechanics.


You know the amount of people sitting behind their computer screen who like to jump into random threads and insult people never ceases to amaze me. Please go insult someone who deserves it, because I really don't think I have done anything to deserve it. I am sorry for asking a question and trying to have a discussion, as I said I am new. But yes I keep coming back to not understanding why because, yes, I don't understand the erroneous logic behind this whole situation. I will leave it at that though, since it seems nobody really cares about it anyways. Thanks to all the non-d-bags who posted in this thread.


@Lorik,

Don't take Rene's post so personally. Rene is just trying to point out what the veterans already know but the newbies don't. Like many before me, I learned to stop beating dead horses a long time ago. Yes, I know it is easy to create an alt to circumvent certain rules set by the players, but it's because of that reason alone that allowing a name change on a regular or random basis is a bad idea. That and because name changes tend to skew the paper trail. What if another player picks up the same name? Then you end up having duplicate character names appearing in certain places and that creates a headache for the security department or the GMs.

@Lady Spank

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Pyrosomniac
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-02-06 13:50:30 UTC
I'd support a name change option as I now hate my characters name (and I've adopted a different online handle now), so I'd be in favour of it.

As an April Fools though, I'd love to see CCP add name changing and call it an expansion. Think about it, an added level of espionage to your character! How about a black market dealing, face-off style where your character pays off a shady guy in the back of a hangar to do some cosmetic surgery and forge some new ID's? Could make it an entire black market trading deal then, but aside from boosters and slaves and exotic dancers, you'd need some other stuff to trade.

Still, I can understand why it's not there, but at the same time...
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-02-06 14:07:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Sasha Azala
I don't have a problem with people changing their names as long as the original name is linked to the present name (on the character sheet 'formerly known as *name*') . Also the employment history remains intact from the character creation date.
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#39 - 2012-02-06 14:20:31 UTC
boseo wrote:
I want to turn the stupid lower case b to an upper-case B on this character, never noticed how annoying it was until recently


petition it, it can and should be done.

ive had it changed on one of my mains a few years back, didnt even notice i missed teh capital letters when i started, i was a tad stoned at the time though

OMG when can i get a pic here
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2012-02-06 14:21:27 UTC
Lorik Q'uin wrote:
Rene Fullchest wrote:
You keep coming back to various forms of "I don't understand why...".

That is a true statement. However, your inability to understand does not make your idea any more original or valid.

That you don't understand is a function of your inability to recognize that the idea has been brought up many, many times before and shot down, not by the players alone, but by CCP. It's bad gameplay and mechanics.


You know the amount of people sitting behind their computer screen who like to jump into random threads and insult people never ceases to amaze me. Please go insult someone who deserves it, because I really don't think I have done anything to deserve it. I am sorry for asking a question and trying to have a discussion, as I said I am new. But yes I keep coming back to not understanding why because, yes, I don't understand the erroneous logic behind this whole situation. I will leave it at that though, since it seems nobody really cares about it anyways. Thanks to all the non-d-bags who posted in this thread.



I detect a bit of emo longing in your posts. Look son, this is not World of Warcraft. Once you've cybered with someone and are embarrassed about it, you just need to move on and own it.

One of the lures of this game for most all that stick with it, is the fact that you cannot erase without starting over. Spaceships are real srs.

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