Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I understand your point, Mag, and I think it's unfair.

When you train a regular skill, you lock yourself into training only that skill. When you train this generic skill, you only lock yourself into the category of skills that depend on the same attributes as the ones you set. So training the generic skill is more flexible than training a regular skill. But you still have to wait for the skill points to save up, and you still have to pay for the time it takes to do that, and you still have to decide which skills to allocate your points, which is still permanent and comes with all the same consequences.

CCP doesn't stand to loose anything from this but players stand to benefit from the skill points they would otherwise lose.

Yet still you complain and exaggerate because you don't want to admit that you prefer that other characters be allowed to fall behind as it puts you ahead.

I think I just found your core problem here. You're under the mistaken impression that Eve is fair. It isn't. The sooner you realize that Eve is only as fair as you make it (by creating whatever advantage you can for yourself, be it bringing more friends to the fight or making an Excel spreadsheet to find that extra 0.5% income over the competition), the sooner you will realize that your proposal is fundamentally broken.

a more agreeable idea would be to allow skill queuing through evegate

problem solved

this. Only like this idea because those deployed in the military usually can't get good internets.


Your generic skill is yet another form of farm tactic op. PLain and simple. Here's how I would use it. ATM, I am quite content in my chars skills. T2 cruisers and frigs average or maxed skill, , 3 racial BS I can run any fleet fit I have ever seen...and a most kick ass tengu setup for pve on the shoot em up char. After I delay my cap decision yet again by jsut hiting jump skills I will have to **** or get off the pot and pick what race will use those jump skills.

Enter your idea. I do a space command only spec train and ride out 6 months of trains. Don't need to train anything real...I can bank up the sps' and not care too much. Gives me the option too see what the summer patch brings to caps if they get looked at in some way. Will niddy be fixed? Will summer patch due to wtf play testing inhouse make chimera's so op its scary? That happens....jsut cash my chips in and bam, instant uber chimera. Same with major numbers in every alliance who either on mains just fill in time since "done" up to supers or the training char on one of their cyno alt accounts.

NO consequence to this setup. I wait for summer patch to settle, see what the trends ar, have my months of sp's....and bam I pick the new winner. Old system is fine as is. I pick my ships, hope next patch is either nice or does nothing to me (since nothng is better than getting nerfed lol). Element of risk eve players have taken for years. We all lived through it, so can newer players.

If it takes six months to save the skill points, than it's not instant. You have to train a total of 6,354,024 skill points split between 13 skills in four different categories in order to fly the Chimera. One skill depends on Intelligence/Memory, two skills depend on Memory/Perception, two skills depend on Intelligence/Perception, and eight skills depend on Perception/Willpower.

You won't have to log on every day or every week, but you will have to log on to this character at least three times in order to switch out the attributes of the generic skill. So it's not entirely hands free.

Yes, it's more flexible, as it should be, but once you allocate your skill points, it's just as permanent as if you had spent the whole time training the regular skills. And if they end up nerfing the Chimera in the following winter patch, or buffing something else to counter the Chimera, then the consequences are the same.

Imagine that then. You've spent a long time saving up points on a special character. You almost have enough to get that last level 5 you need to fly that awesome ship or fit that t2 gang link, and then somebody comes along and blows it all away. Would you really call it fair? I wouldn't. (...rage quit!) No, I'd rather just lose the usual amount if we die without a clone or it's insufficient. Otherwise they should be fully covered.


You have to swap them either way but, why limit it to only one attribute when regular skill training always generates points from two attributes? primary + (secondary/2) per minute

Also keep in mind that you can only remap your attribute points once a year and, if you put all of your points into one attribute and the rest into another, you will only generate the most skill points from those two attributes. If those are not the two attributes you set in the generic skill while it's training, it will only generate skill points at or near the minimum.


No because it is completely unnecessary and doesn't fix or improve anything.

Not every improvement to the game needs to be accompanied by a penalty of equal or greater magnitude.

No. There will always be consequences no matter what you do.

What and how? Be more specific.

Please don't reply to topics you haven't clearly read through.

You can waste your breath all you want, it doesn't bother me. My idea is fair and sound and I'll keep bumping it up until I know it's at least been heard by the people it was intended for.