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Hans Zwaardhandler
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#41 - 2012-02-07 22:50:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Remember what happened last time someone got a nation to get behind National Socialism?

No need to remember, the refresher is happening right now.


So... CNN and Fox are one and the same? Their ideology seems quite a bit different, as Fox leans more to the conservative right and CNN (to me) more to the liberal/central side of things.

Connecting the two together and getting National Socialism and connecting them to a certain previous political figure is illogical and pointless and has already shown off one of the online forum laws in effect; the longer a thread goes on, the better a likelihood is of there being a mention of Adolph Hitler.
Adunh Slavy
#42 - 2012-02-07 23:26:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Adunh Slavy
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Remember what happened last time someone got a nation to get behind National Socialism?

No need to remember, the refresher is happening right now.


So... CNN and Fox are one and the same? Their ideology seems quite a bit different, as Fox leans more to the conservative right and CNN (to me) more to the liberal/central side of things.


Stop looking at the world with the dualist lens of left and right. There are other perspectives; from another perspective, CCN and FOX look very much the same.

Consider the perspective of Authoritarianism and Collectivism versus Individualism and Libertarianism. Using that perspective, both CCN and FOX promote the idea that the State is good. Though one promotes a more socialist view, and one is more nationalistic, both lead to the same authoritarian result.

The dualist left-right view is just what the powerful want the little sheep to use in their evaluations of the world, to keep people fighting and squabbling over trivial wedge issues while they, the powered interests do what they want, consuming your rights and your wealth.

This left-right charade goes on in just about every country in the West to one degree or another, it is tailor made for sheep and their subsequent fleecing.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Hans Zwaardhandler
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#43 - 2012-02-08 02:01:43 UTC
I can agree on the first three paragraphs, and on the fourth I am a little skeptical. But it's your own beliefs and I respect that.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-02-08 18:43:44 UTC
I thought Fox News was entertainment/fiction? Just designed to do outrageous things and whip up controversy, thereby drawing viewers and selling commercials. Commercials by giant corporations very interested in keeping things going their way (a.k.a. the right wing uncontrolled capitalism way). I could swear, if you look closely at the closing credits, you'll see "For Entertainment Purposes Only...."
Blink
RiskyFrisky
Halliburton Heavy Industries
#45 - 2012-02-08 20:38:50 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
^

Shadowsword wrote:
I remember a particular Fox News documentary that left me litteraly speechless. The commentator took a few theme words from obama's speechs, like for example Security, and with only the first letter of each word, then formed the word SOCIALIST, and started to depict that as Obama's hidden agenda.

I was stunned by the implicit insult toward the average US resident this little word manipulation represented. Just what kind of fool would believe this crap?



^

I noticed a funny thing recently. Discussing news sources in a media class. Many uber liberal types now like to say they watch/read al jezeera. Because it's so progressive and worldly. However every single person from the middle east in every class I've had that brings this issue up loathes that station because often times it's censored or partially run by the government.

I suppose the grass is always greener. Really people need to diversify their news sources. It's not the job of the news to agree with you or give you an opinion. Should just state the facts, and you have to use your own brain to interpret it.



To the above quote: People think it's Obama turning the U.S. into a socialist country? Pfft. That's happening by itself, with or without him. It's unstoppable.

And I only read Reuters and Al J Jazeera. They always have the same exact ****, though different opinions. Get to choose which one I like more(Al Jazeera is better for gruesome stuff)
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#46 - 2012-02-09 06:19:54 UTC
You see while everybody is squabbling over left versus right, the election process that sooooo many people say that sooo many soldiers gave their life for is corrupted as hell.

This stuff ends in death camps and gulags. Adult-sized-child comic book la la land is coming to an end.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Fuee
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-02-09 10:04:09 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Is a Republican Super Pac

Send a message, use parental control, block FOX!


Such tired angst.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#48 - 2012-02-09 15:47:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Remember what happened last time someone got a nation to get behind National Socialism?

No need to remember, the refresher is happening right now.


So... CNN and Fox are one and the same? Their ideology seems quite a bit different, as Fox leans more to the conservative right and CNN (to me) more to the liberal/central side of things.


Stop looking at the world with the dualist lens of left and right. There are other perspectives; from another perspective, CCN and FOX look very much the same.

Consider the perspective of Authoritarianism and Collectivism versus Individualism and Libertarianism. Using that perspective, both CCN and FOX promote the idea that the State is good. Though one promotes a more socialist view, and one is more nationalistic, both lead to the same authoritarian result.

The dualist left-right view is just what the powerful want the little sheep to use in their evaluations of the world, to keep people fighting and squabbling over trivial wedge issues while they, the powered interests do what they want, consuming your rights and your wealth.

This left-right charade goes on in just about every country in the West to one degree or another, it is tailor made for sheep and their subsequent fleecing.






Two wings on the same bird of prey.


(oh look, Freedom Watch is on FOX - but it took some fighting to keep FOX from dropping that show or shuffling it off somewhere to die)

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Adunh Slavy
#49 - 2012-02-09 17:06:38 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

(oh look, Freedom Watch is on FOX - but it took some fighting to keep FOX from dropping that show or shuffling it off somewhere to die)



LOL yeah, The Judge, Stossel and even Cavuto, to a lesser degree, are not the typical fox BS artist.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#50 - 2012-02-10 01:44:43 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

(oh look, Freedom Watch is on FOX - but it took some fighting to keep FOX from dropping that show or shuffling it off somewhere to die)



LOL yeah, The Judge, Stossel and even Cavuto, to a lesser degree, are not the typical fox BS artist.




Woops - we'll have no talk of liberty and all that crap in modern Amerika shall we?

Looks like the last truly popular show on FOX was CANCELLED today and guess what show it was?

(hint: the one everybody liked )

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Xenuria
#51 - 2012-02-11 00:59:00 UTC
Dear OP True Republicans do Not play eve online. If they ever tried to they would just say it was boring and give up. Roll

CSM 12 Candidate
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#52 - 2012-02-12 08:16:21 UTC
FOX news is real. I wish I could braodcast it from my retriever while ice mining for the 20 mackinaws to listen to it.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#53 - 2012-02-13 15:09:23 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Two kinds of media, two kinds of zombies.

CNN: zombies who like the welfare state.
FOX: zombies who like the warfare state.


CNN: Socialism.
FOX: Nationalism.


Remember what happened last time someone got a nation to get behind National Socialism?

No need to remember, the refresher is happening right now.



lol, one of the gullible ones.

Do you really think McCarthy era threats of socialism scare people?

Get some new material Roll

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-02-13 15:27:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Riedle
I like Fox News. Nothing wrong with it. They have opinion shows and they always present both sides of the story. They will have panelists from the left and the right.

The biggest problem with Fox news is the morons on the left who are seemingly incapable of differentiating between hard news and commentary. lol.

Why? Because they are used to the old guard media presenting leftward opinion as hard news.

Edit: To the OP:

Typical leftist – wanting to control what others do. Here’s a hint – if you don’t like it, turn the channel.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#55 - 2012-02-13 15:32:23 UTC
Riedle wrote:
I like Fox News. Nothing wrong with it. They have opinion shows and they always present both sides of the story. They will have panelists from the left and the right.

The biggest problem with Fox news is the morons on the left who are seemingly incapble of figuring out the difference between hard news and commentary. lol.

Why? Because they are used to the old guard media presenting leftward opinion as hard news.



Lol sorry but, really? You really believe what you just said??

(to make it clear, I feel same way about networks like ABC and MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc.)
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#56 - 2012-02-13 15:39:12 UTC
On FOX radio in South Dakota they convinced the listeners that if Obama Care happened there would be a Fed Inspector in every doctors office.

People really belive that ****, that is why we need to put FOX on parental control, to protect the gullible and the naive.

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-02-13 15:39:38 UTC
Quote:

Lol sorry but, really? You really believe what you just said??

(to make it clear, I feel same way about networks like ABC and MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc.)


Yes, really. I know it's not popular with the "in crowd" these days, but some times I like tuning into opinion pieces about politics and one of the stops on my dial is fox news.

I know, I know - you and others will call or infer that I am a hick/redneck/ obviously stupid / not right in the head etc etc but that’s ok.

I don’t need to be in the ‘in crowd’ and if my opinion on wanting to watch opinion shows on fox news featuring great opinion people like Charles Krauthammer then I couldn’t really care less so have at it.

Big smile
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-02-13 15:41:19 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
On FOX radio in South Dakota they convinced the listeners that if Obama Care happened there would be a Fed Inspector in every doctors office.

People really belive that ****, that is why we need to put FOX on parental control, to protect the gullible and the naive.


You sure seem to know a lot about Fox News for someone who doesn't watch it.

lol
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#59 - 2012-02-13 15:47:27 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Riedle wrote:
Quote:

Lol sorry but, really? You really believe what you just said??

(to make it clear, I feel same way about networks like ABC and MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc.)


Yes, really. I know it's not popular with the "in crowd" these days, but some times I like tuning into opinion pieces about politics and one of the stops on my dial is fox news.

I know, I know - you and others will call or infer that I am a hick/redneck/ obviously stupid / not right in the head etc etc but that’s ok.

I don’t need to be in the ‘in crowd’ and if my opinion on wanting to watch opinion shows on fox news featuring great opinion people like Charles Krauthammer then I couldn’t really care less so have at it.

Big smile



No I wont call you a hick or redneck. I would call it being uninformed and I strongly believe it is a mistake to get their news from those big networks, not just FOX NEWS. Same goes for the big papers and other media. Of course best solution is to always read summary of the news then get the spin from both left right and middle of the political spectrum to make a well informed opinion.

PS: I even watch it sometimes, I just make sure to always watch with a skeptical mind and never take their word for it.
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#60 - 2012-02-13 15:50:38 UTC
Riedle wrote:
Bootleg Jack wrote:
On FOX radio in South Dakota they convinced the listeners that if Obama Care happened there would be a Fed Inspector in every doctors office.

People really belive that ****, that is why we need to put FOX on parental control, to protect the gullible and the naive.


You sure seem to know a lot about Fox News for someone who doesn't watch it.

lol


I unfortunatly have a family member who does. There needs to be a 12 step program for news junkies

I'm an American, English is my second language...