Warfare & Tactics

Can we bubble a enemy POS to the point where they are unable to warp out of it, or is this not considered a valid game mechanic?

I've heard conflicting reports from different people. I don't want to risk doing it if it's not a legal game mechanic.

Cheers

R4pe Cage. Perfectly acceptable tactic. Lock post.

You are dumb and wrong.

OP, the more bubbles the better. The "r*** cage" is a valid tactic frequently employed in nullsec warfare. It's just warp bubbles doing what they are designed to do; there is no reason for a GM to interfere.

Considering they will be initiating warp from within their pos, they will just warp right through your bubbles. You wont be able to stop people from warping out of their pos.

Valid tactic unless you like buble the whole grid then may be an issue

This is a valid tactic, but also realize that the following tactics are valid as well.

- Stripping all your fittings from your other ships and dumping them into cargo of the most valuable ship then loging out for a week.
- Throwing everything into a carrier, orca or the like then loging out for a week.
- Self destructing every ship you can't save with the above tactics with full cargo holds.
- Moving a ship with cloak to the edge of the force field. Loging out. Loging back in the middle of the night or day and sneaking out.
- Using ships unaffected by bubbles to remove small high value items.

A **** caging is only effective in preventing them from leaving. Not in insuring that you get their stuff. Also it depends on your corp being able to man the siege 23/7.

PS- The above tactics are generally very effective in insuring the attackers don't come back. No one wants to go to a massive amount of effort just to destroy a POS with no loot.

I have no comment to add to this thread but I lol'd at this.

Could anyone further clarify here please? I did some testing on this, some long time ago, and came to see the login and logout warp as being immune to bubbles.

We are a small decidedly-bearish group and part of our plan, when the inevitable large force decides to take-down our POS, involves orca pilot routinely logging off while inside POS. The idea was that when we come under attack. He is able to fill orca with valuables and log-off out of the bubble blob... even if cage-bubbled. This seemed to work in our tests.
Am I missing something important here?

For OP. Large T2 bubbles are big and can be placed to overlap and blotout the area inside a large tower's forcefield ... subject to vague note below. Doing that is entirely legit, although doubtlessly unpleasant for the POS owner. Spiking bubbles with cans or drones or whatever, to cause ppl to be uncloaked, is also entirely legit providing you're not doing it to induce lag.

Also, IIRC, there was a 'bug' where if you placed the bubble inside 12km from the forcefield edge it would deactivate over DT. IDK if that's still an issue, but given that large bubbles have 40km radius and large tower 30km it could leave you a 2km sphere-of-safety inside your forcefield or disabled bubbles after DT if it still works that way.

Yes and no.

If you log off inside a POS you will stay there until your timer is up, you will NOT emergency warp out of the POS before logging off. However when you log back in you will be doing an emergency warp into the POS. This emergency warp will ignore any bubbles on the POS and just get you back to the place you logged off from.

What I really would like to see implemented is that selfdestructing a ship will kill your POD as well. That would force you to either fight or select one ship to self destruct and then be out of it. Either way its just wrong that you can self destruct ships inside a POS force field.

It's true that you're ejected from the POS at a very high speed this way, on the order of kilometers per second even for monsters like freighters and whatnot. However, if the ship that's been POS-rejected is the kind that is able to accelerate quickly (which subsumes both positive and negative acceleration) it won't travel very far out of the shields since it will have decelerated from, say, 3km/sec to its normal top speed quite quickly, and it may very well not be possible to either cloak up, cloak+slowboat or warp off in time before the enemy nabs you, depending on luck and attackers' degree of preparedness.

This "trick", however, works very well for Orcas, they travel at the high speed after being ejected from the shields for quite a while and usually end up far enough out to safely cloak and slowboat into infinity. It's quite satisfying to watch the attackers' fast fliers search for the delicious pinata filled with valuables and fail Your tests were true to the facts, Substantia