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Preping miners for hulkagaddon. 
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loco coco
#21 - 2012-04-14 23:58:34 UTC
If you got hulkageddon problems, I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but my miner ain't one.

Now that that's out of the way.

If you don't want to get popped in a hulk, but a covetor. They mine about 90% as fast as a hulk with all skills at 5 (which if you're mining in a hulk, they should be). 33m loss instead of the now 350m loss.

Get out of highsec. Go find a large alliance or at least one that knows what it's doing down in nullsec. You can mine to your hearts content as long as you have someone to deal with the rats, or if you have a second account with a combat char on it, you can dual box and mine by yourself.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#22 - 2012-04-15 00:10:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Maxious wrote:
When it comes to gankers vs miners I know what side I'm on. I personally think hulkagaddon should be scrapped. But 5 years on and it's still going. Hulkagaddon will come as sure as night follows day. So this thread is for all my fellow miners out there that want help setting up and getting ready for the dark days to come. I'm asking for other fellow miners to post successful mining tips during combat situation. Can you really tank a hulk for high sec? Will a covetor be a better idea. Is it better to invest in warp core stabilisers or shield hardeners? Is a fleet of ECM drones with 1 combat drone any good if you did need to go afk for any reason. What would you recommend to give another miner that edge for when the lights start blazing ?

Hulks are selling at 314m in Jita, which is just insane, so I built myself some Covetors which are a tenth the price.

As for a tanked Hulk (don't forget to overheat the hardeners if attacked, or suspicious, they last about 2m):

[Hulk, EHP]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Vespa EC-600 x5
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#23 - 2012-04-15 00:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: MadMuppet
Are you a paranoid miner?
Do you spend all your time mining asteroids?
Do you fear the upcoming 'Hulkageddon'?

Then have I got a message for you:

"Don't Panic!"

Yes! For just a few seconds stop and turn on your brain and consider the size of the EVE universe. Pretty damn big isn't it?

"But Muppet, they know where I mine!"

Well friend, let point your asteroid shaped burned retinas to this map... See this, this, and this? Those are called TRADE HUBS. If you are within four jumps of them, Hulkageddon or not, you are asking to get ganked.

"But if I go more than four jumps from the trade hub we waste time hauling or have our profits cut!"

You are aware that there are NPC manufacturing hubs outside of four jumps of the trade hubs right? You can sell your minerals or metals there and actually make a decent profit right?

"But Muppet, it is my money and I want it now!"

(sigh) Please just get away from the trade hubs.

"But Muppet, we are more than four jumps from the trade hubs!"

Ok, what race controls your region?

"Caldari of course"

OK, rule two: stay out of Caldari space, for some reason gankers LOVE Caldari. All I can figure is that they love snails for dinner but spellcheck using a Ouija board.

"But Muppet, I spent a lot of isk for this ship and a Tornado can pop it in a single shot!"

The is EVE idiot. If they REALLY want to kill you they can. Fit a tank and pay attention!

"But Muppet, if I fit a tank I can't mine as much or haul as much, it will hurt my profits!"

FUKUNG is down you idiot, you can still pay attention can't you?

"But Muppet, if I have to pay attention I might miss the action filled scene of my movie. You don't expect me to actually pay attention to mining do you?"

(sigh) No, I expect you to die. I would like to thank you in advance for helping drawing fire away from the other miners during this event. I must commend you in your efforts to be in several kill mails during Hulkageddon, you patronage is the sign of a true devotee of EVE Online.

This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.

"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#24 - 2012-04-15 00:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
Actually this years Hulkageddon will be intersting to observe.

I've never had any love for miners as at previous income rates, they all used to be bots, macros or some weirdos operating 20 accounts at once so I wasn't too unhappy whenever one was ganked (although I never did it - only ships I personally suicide-ganked were Tengus).

With increasing ore/min/ship prices and banned bots there'll be human miners again and it will be more apparent that gankers are biting the hand that feeds them.

It wont change the good people organizing the events as their interst was profiting from the event to begin with, but it will be interesting to see if the number of drooling idiots falling for them and doing the dirty work will be diminished.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Mythra
La Mortis
#25 - 2012-04-15 00:56:55 UTC
Or you could fly the below ships and laugh at the catalysts that come to gank you. Course if you see tornado's I'd recommend that you GTFO.
Quote:

Mining Rokh
with included orca stats are: 223k ehp 83.9 em 79.2 therm 84.4 kin 87 exp 1806 yield with 5% highwall implant
without orca: 187k ehp 83.4 em 77.5 them 83.1 kin 85.9 exp 1404 yield with 5% highwall implant
[Rokh, mining]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II

EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I


Mining Drone II x5

Tanked Orca 226k ehp 78.6 em 72.4 therm 79.3 kin 82.7 exp
[Orca, New Setup 1]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Damage Control II

EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization II
Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement II

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

These fits will put you comfortably into the freighter ehp zone if not over and thus greatly increasing the cost and effort to gank you.
Now to truely be as gank resistant as possible you need to borrow or steal this from Chribba:
[Revelation, Veldnaught]
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Energized Armor Layering Membrane II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Siege Module II

Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Whitehound
#26 - 2012-04-15 01:29:24 UTC
If you do not know what to do then try to have fun. Take your mining ship and see if you can get through to Jita in a barge or an exhumer. I bet you will not be able to. So get a few barges, they are cheap, and try a few times until you succeed. This should be hilarious.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-04-15 02:04:07 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
malaire wrote:
Dock.


This.

Any other thing you plan on doing will not work and will result in tears.


Ive never stopped during it and never got ganked so yeah

GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.

Where is your God now carebear?
loco coco
#28 - 2012-04-15 03:28:01 UTC
Elyssa MacLeod wrote:
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
malaire wrote:
Dock.


This.

Any other thing you plan on doing will not work and will result in tears.


Ive never stopped during it and never got ganked so yeah


This years main target!
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#29 - 2012-04-15 03:34:38 UTC
Surviving ganks is easy.

Always be aligned.


Only thing this is not very effective for is Ice mining... and if you do such actively, you have my pity.
Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-04-15 04:29:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod
You can tell Hulkageddons on the way when youre selling loot from a mission and all the passive targetters and smartbombs are selling at 75% or higher of average

loco coco wrote:
Elyssa MacLeod wrote:
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
malaire wrote:
Dock.


This.

Any other thing you plan on doing will not work and will result in tears.


Ive never stopped during it and never got ganked so yeah


This years main target!


lol go for it...


cause this is totally my mining main roflmao

GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.

Where is your God now carebear?
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#31 - 2012-04-15 04:48:41 UTC
play sc2, bf3, world of tanks, wow.

I have more space likes than you. 
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-04-15 04:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Large Collidable Object wrote:
I've never had any love for miners as at previous income rates, they all used to be bots, macros or some weirdos operating 20 accounts at once so I wasn't too unhappy whenever one was ganked (although I never did it - only ships I personally suicide-ganked were Tengus).
.



Generalities easily turn one into a lair. I've been a miner my whole career, during mineral market crashes and high mineral bull markets.. no, I never botted, ran a macro... or used more than 3 accounts at once. Most ganker/griefers demonize their targets to make themselves feel better about being the bully.. but that's just human nature I suppose.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-04-15 04:55:15 UTC
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-04-15 05:02:19 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
If you do not know what to do then try to have fun. Take your mining ship and see if you can get through to Jita in a barge or an exhumer. I bet you will not be able to. So get a few barges, they are cheap, and try a few times until you succeed. This should be hilarious.



this is really creative. I like it. you could frap the whole thing.. with the right subtitles could be hilarious.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]
Kreeia Dgore
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-04-15 05:35:40 UTC
Step one: Dock
Step two: Go mission running.
Step three: Once the prices hit the roof, which they will in a week or 10 days after the inferno is released, sell all ore supply i have for huge profit.
Step four: Be rich and dance while laughing like a lunatic on a pile of cash.

I love EVE.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-04-15 07:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Large Collidable Object wrote:
....

I've never had any love for miners as at previous income rates, they all used to be bots, macros or some weirdos operating 20 accounts at once so I wasn't too unhappy whenever one was ganked (although I never did it - only ships I personally suicide-ganked were Tengus).

With increasing ore/min/ship prices and banned bots there'll be human miners again and it will be more apparent that gankers are biting the hand that feeds them.
...



The average hulk pilot has changed, too. When I started EVE, the hulk was considered the end-game of any industrial character, the apex of your achievements that every Bantam-Miner dreamed about but only very few had hopes to ever achieve....

Nowadays, mining corps tell their newbies to train straightly to the hulk and skip every other skill, and promise to hand them out the hulk once they have the skills to use them.
Your average (human) hulk pilot today is a 2-3 months old newbie with about 5 M SP, all in mining, and no clue about the game.

Ganking those creatures would make me feel small and miserable, but the good thing is that I don't have to.
With t2 strip miners selling for above 6 M in my region now, it is like getting a 10 M bounty on any hulk destroyed...so please, carry on!

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#37 - 2012-04-15 07:01:13 UTC
Bring boosting alts+ Logi's

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-04-15 07:04:11 UTC
mine in mission sites d scan for combat probes

there is also grav sites, but then any kind of probes you have to watch out for.
Dr Silkworth
#39 - 2012-04-15 07:28:32 UTC
Dock, unsub; its should be obvious, concede 200 Goons are more powerful than you. CCP did.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#40 - 2012-04-15 08:10:26 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Surviving ganks is easy.

Always be aligned.


Only thing this is not very effective for is Ice mining... and if you do such actively, you have my pity.


Making 2-3B a month in a completely AFK setup certainly sucks.

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