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Best caldari tacklers?
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#21 - 2012-02-07 06:32:40 UTC
Bleh. ******* **** day. And really, he's just being a pedantic little **** at this point. It was a totally viable suggestion and he's like "DDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRPPPPPP".

******* idiot.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Allyia Base
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-02-07 06:39:36 UTC
Totally.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#23 - 2012-02-07 06:49:26 UTC
As a Caldari role player my self your choice to just fly Caldari is weak....If your going to succeed as all true Caldari wish to do then you will use any means necessary!
The Gallente and Caldari were one federation for generations, Knowing there ships is just knowing your history.
The Khanid kingdom has been working with caldari tech for quite some time to not taste the fruits of that cross empire endeavor is a wasted chance for character development.

that being said....

Caldari cepters are fine, Don't let the EFT warriors bore you with there numbers. Its a fast ship that locks fast with a long point, looks to be doing it's job.


Herons make great throw away tacklers, Don't try to get DPS, just MWD, long point, prob launcher, and if you can fit it some tank.
There one of the cheapest Caldari frigs to make and fit, and the probe bonus is a great secondary asset to a team.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
Liam Mirren
#24 - 2012-02-07 07:01:15 UTC
Raptor certainly isn't the best of the tackling inties but it does the job. If you're looking for low SP options use a Merlin, it's not brilliant but it works fine.

And Liang; just admit it and move on :)

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#25 - 2012-02-07 07:19:39 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
Raptor certainly isn't the best of the tackling inties but it does the job. If you're looking for low SP options use a Merlin, it's not brilliant but it works fine.

And Liang; just admit it and move on :)


Not sure what you want me to admit? That its a really fantastic budget tackler? Yeah, its a really fantastic budget tackler with a hell of a tank.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-02-07 10:13:58 UTC
Stick a 10MN afterburner on a T1 frig, add a point, some small anti-drone guns, and maybe even a sensor booster and you got yourself a micro tackle.
This wont fit on all frigs but the merlin for sure. (fitting mods in the lows)

No Worries
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#27 - 2012-02-07 11:51:32 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Ok, whatever **** it man. The ******* hawk is **** and nobody should ever fly one. Roll

******* moron.

-Liang


In the role of a fast, interceptor type tackler *WITHOUT THE LOKI* the hawk is a terrible choice. Leave the merits of the hawk for another thread, but in this role, its one of the worst you could use.

Listen, I know you can't see how somebody would play the game without their ganglink alt, but when the OP is new to frigates and doesn't want to lose too much isk trying it out... recommending he get a multimillion skillpoint alt in a 500mil hull to be competitive isn't remotely helpful.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#28 - 2012-02-07 11:56:28 UTC
Comments:
- I am single boxing these days. Dual and triple boxing really fucks up my ability to fraps when I kick people's ass. :)
- The guy is in a tackler frigate. He's in a gang. Its not his alt, its someone elses... but that alt is really likely to be there.
- 4km/s is still pretty decent - thats no implants, no links, no nothing.
- The reason the Hawk is not in fact the worst you can use is because you can rock a pretty sizable tank at the same time you're rolling disruptor + scram. Its literally a "**** you Mr nano ship sir" ship.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#29 - 2012-02-07 15:39:49 UTC
Now you are throwing out overheated numbers? Seriously?

Without heat, you are looking at ~2.7km/s. That is quite a bit slower than interceptors. Sure, the Hawk is way more tankier, but you lose a lot of speed and agility to get that.
Archare
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-02-07 17:14:56 UTC
Fluff aside, all fleet tackle intys will perform their role sufficiently. Some better than others, but for getting point on something and holding on for dear life a raptor will work. The T1 Merlin can be used as cheap alternatives.

For the side banter, yes Liang, your hawk can work. However that is under the assumption that his gang is of similar composition and resources as your's. It sounds like you have a well composed gang that takes advantage of you gang of pilots skills, but the OP may or may not have those same resources, hence why the inherent rejection by most posters of your suggestion.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#31 - 2012-02-07 17:23:01 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Now you are throwing out overheated numbers? Seriously?

Without heat, you are looking at ~2.7km/s. That is quite a bit slower than interceptors. Sure, the Hawk is way more tankier, but you lose a lot of speed and agility to get that.


Do you ever tackle something? Especially something thats obviously designed to scram tackle? Overheat is basically all that matters.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#32 - 2012-02-07 17:32:59 UTC
Archare wrote:
Fluff aside, all fleet tackle intys will perform their role sufficiently. Some better than others, but for getting point on something and holding on for dear life a raptor will work. The T1 Merlin can be used as cheap alternatives.

For the side banter, yes Liang, your hawk can work. However that is under the assumption that his gang is of similar composition and resources as your's. It sounds like you have a well composed gang that takes advantage of you gang of pilots skills, but the OP may or may not have those same resources, hence why the inherent rejection by most posters of your suggestion.


I tend to make suggestions based on what I feel are fairly reasonable criteria. For example, I'd say that most gangs I encounter have gang bonuses whether they are in or out of Amamake (last night I roamed from Amamake -> Raa -> Evati -> Rancer -> Amamake -> Raa -> Amamake). I bet that percentage goes way up once you get out into 0.0 space, though I don't have any hard evidence to back it up. Thus, the only requirement that Hawk has is the willingness to get into scram range of a nano cruiser (like a Cynabal)... and whats more, it has the speed to make it happen while simultaneously tanking it.

And yes, I know the Hawk works... without fancy implants. :)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#33 - 2012-02-07 17:53:39 UTC
One more option for would be caldari tacklers:

If your up for something that is a mix between an assult frigate and a decent tackle you might want to look at the worm.
It does the job of a tackle ship rather well although not as good as an inti it gets a nice tank/dps/ew combo that can make you a bit more help after tackle has been achieved.

You'll have to train up some gallente frigate skills to use it as it takes both caldari and gallente to fly. (( but both to 4 are still much shorter then training one to 5 for an inti )) You will need decent drone skills to fly effectively.
Tari Tari
#34 - 2012-02-07 18:16:07 UTC
Gurista RP on the forums, well I never.
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