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Sturmwolke
#241 - 2012-02-23 21:45:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Sturmwolke
Tsadkiel wrote:
as for the neutrinos, newtons laws have nothing to do with the predictions made by ICARUS. the just found dissuading evidence and put forward a hypothesis that may explain the effect.


The meaning is asssociative.
Context matters, pay attention. Smile

P.S Come to think of it, on second thought, I have this nagging suspicion that you didn't actually get what's being implied with the Newton's Law vs Relativity comparison. What the heck are they teaching in school nowadays?
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#242 - 2012-02-23 21:45:19 UTC
Well when I learned about Newton in calculus classes, I learned he died a virgin apperently. Its always funny having those fun side stories in physics and stuff.

Yeah I had an asain roommate, should have seen that stronger work ethic coming. He always got angry at me for not having one.

Yeah can see you going to the corporations, with how active you are at using physics.

Sorry gay puns coming in. Was thinking of you studying huge amounts of energy in space. Seems like if you could harness that amount of energy you could legalize gay marriage and stuff like that. I suppose though we don't need another scientist doing it just for a personal cuase but oh well.

Also what will develop tools better for you to use? Univeristy or a corporation? Seems tool intensive phsycis.

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Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#243 - 2012-02-23 21:59:40 UTC
Sturmwolke wrote:
Tsadkiel wrote:
as for the neutrinos, newtons laws have nothing to do with the predictions made by ICARUS. the just found dissuading evidence and put forward a hypothesis that may explain the effect.


The meaning is asssociative.
Context matters, pay attention. Smile


sorry, that was not what i got from your post. we can predict the effects newtons laws will carry at relativistic velocities just as the ICARUS team can predict (based on the current models) how neutrinos would behave at FTL speeds. you are correct in that this prediction would be the basis of a hypothesis, not a theory, because it is currently untestable.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#244 - 2012-02-23 22:05:57 UTC
Sturmwolke wrote:
Tsadkiel wrote:

ok so, after reading what i could find on the site i think this is probably (practically certainly) bunk...


Perhaps. Generally, imo, his writings are a little bit too detailed from the average folks that are into the "fringe" free energy research. The average scientists are usually quick to dismiss something un-conventional, basing their proofs from the conventional theories - ignoring empirical results (usually as random chance). You can go around in circles not finding anything when the fundamental flaws are the conventional equations trying to explain the un-conventional.

I was piqued by the FTL neutrinos announcement and claims of a debunk from the folks at Imaging Cosmic and Rare Underground Signals (ICARUS) - basing it on the energy level of the neutrinos (Cohen–Glashow effect - a sort of Bremsstrahlung loss for neutrinos). Problem with that is no one actually knows what happens to neutrinos at speed >= c. Think about it, when you apply Newton's theories to relativity, it won't fit ... however, it's still valid for lesser systems. Essentially, the ICARUS's debunk, imo was only a confirmation there was no bremsstrahlung loss for superluminal neutrinos detected ... and that's about it.


Do you think you can go over superluminal nuetrinos for me, its a bit confusing. As well as Bremsstrahnlung loss for neutrinos. I think me trying to say that aloud is the best I can do with that. I might play with some newton applied to relativity in a way. I was hoping to aks what schools of thinking the OP uses to help grasp new topics or understandings. I usually use newton and relativeity to help understand new things. I saw the OP use chaos theory or planks uncertaintity principle as well, but that is harder for me to use, but it did seem he used it the right way from what I understand of it.

I usually like to watch people who use planks or chaos theory, since they are so hard for me to use.

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Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#245 - 2012-02-23 22:11:42 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Well when I learned about Newton in calculus classes, I learned he died a virgin apperently. Its always funny having those fun side stories in physics and stuff.

Yeah I had an asain roommate, should have seen that stronger work ethic coming. He always got angry at me for not having one.

Yeah can see you going to the corporations, with how active you are at using physics.

Sorry gay puns coming in. Was thinking of you studying huge amounts of energy in space. Seems like if you could harness that amount of energy you could legalize gay marriage and stuff like that. I suppose though we don't need another scientist doing it just for a personal cuase but oh well.

Also what will develop tools better for you to use? Univeristy or a corporation? Seems tool intensive phsycis.


the tools bit is a good question. there are serious ethical concerns when talking about the mixing of financial backing and scientific progress. you might think that a corporation would have more problems with inaccurate results, but you would be wrong in the context of physics. poor results lead to poor products, so corporations have a great deal of interest in providing and even developing the most precise tools and practices available. the down side is that they own your results. it's proprietary, which might unnerve some. the university setting however allows for a great deal more creativity, though, at the cost of less financial security. both settings could very easily develop the best tools.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#246 - 2012-02-23 22:45:47 UTC  |  Edited by: rodyas
Yeah I saw corporations as trying to make the sciences more real. And univerisities kind of playing with ideas more. I think someone earlier asked about science theories and how real they are or useful. University is propably not bad, but its hard for me to be in the relaxed state or so. Except for Stephen Hawking, as the chair person of the college, I imagine he is more active then most professors I suppose.

I was actually studying for chemical engineering years ago, sadly never passed it though. The jobs led to oil and other boring things mostly. So wasn't too inspired by the corporations so much. But I loved the concepts and math and science, so thought teaching would be cool. I heard most engineers became managers there anyhow. Kind of shows the potential of science then, if they all become managers or so.

Supose there aren't any military branches for you to go into. Would be fun to bomb Iran with supernovas and stuff that comes from them, but not sure if bombing is on the table or not.

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Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#247 - 2012-02-23 22:57:03 UTC
Tsadkiel wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
How is gravity measured, I've seen pictures (heat maps) of variance in Earths gravity field, but don't really understand a couple of things. How do we 'perceive' gravity and is there any explanations for these discrepencies?

Also the sun is made mostly of hydrogen apparently, atomically one of the lightest things, they explain this as 'it's under great pressure' , how many more hydrogen atoms fit into the same space in the sun when compared to hydrgoen at atmospheric pressure.

/edit haven't taken in the whole threadnaught yet so sorry if this has been asked before



most of those heat maps are result of direct measurements of the local gravitational acceleration, g. this is usually done with something called a Gravimeter. they are basically very high precision accelerometers. there are a number of effects that need to be taken into account when measuring gravity. relative altitude is one factor, because the force due to gravity decreases as 1/r^2, where r is the distance between the masses of interest. because of this we see that the acceleration due to gravity on top of mount Everest is ever so slightly smaller than that measured in death valley. another factor to account for is the fact that the earth rotates, and so every object on the earth carries an angular and linear acceleration. because of this we measure a change in gravitational acceleration as we move from either pole towards the equator. this effect on the acceleration is similar to the changing acceleration on a roller coaster as it goes through a loop. there are other effects as well, but these are the two big ones we can calculate. once these are accounted for, the resulting map is a direct measure of the specific gravity (density) of the material underneath the meter. this allows us to use gravitational measurements to "scan" the earth for resources like oil or rare minerals and elements.

as for your question about the sun, i don't know off the top of my head. i would have to calculate it, but the difference would be A LOT. the important thing to understand is that the "pressure" you are referring to is caused by gravity pulling the mass of the sun towards the center. hydrogen is the lightest of the elements, so to get a large enough pressure at the center to initiate fusion you need a great deal of it.


Cheers for the answer, could you recomend further reading regarding my quaestons if I find time to look into it further?

You have a very immpresive knowledge of your subject (though I still haven't tackled the whole threadnaught yet) Kudos to you Cool

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Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#248 - 2012-02-23 23:08:25 UTC
thank you very much for the compliment ^^ i appreciate the feedback.

you can find more information about the sun at the National Atmospheric Research Center's High Altitude Observatory, HAO. one of my best friends is working on her PhD there. she is studying the solar dynamo (the process by which the sun generates a magnetic field).

the specific branch of physics that examines star formation and stellar life cycles is called Stellar Astrophysics. a lot of the material that will be used in books on that topic will have a fair amount of nuclear physics and fluid dynamics (maybe a touch of quantum mechanics). if you want to tackle some introductory stellar astrophysics you will want to google the terms Nuclear Binding Energy, Fusion, Fission, Duterium, and Tritium. that should get you started with places to look for more info =D hope this helps!



JinSanJong
Doomheim
#249 - 2012-02-23 23:09:45 UTC  |  Edited by: JinSanJong
Tsadkiel wrote:
JinSanJong wrote:
Ok herees a few to chew on m8

1) Big Bang Theory - What a load of old rubbish? Right? - I mean really...All of a sudden there was on bang and wow the universe was created..Please.... Its worse than saying god made the world in 6 days.. If the universe was suddenly created, then what was it created INTO.. surely there was a universe in the first place...(i know its mental)

2) Why do scientists insist on saying - "Hmm we not sure there is life anywhere else" - Surely they cant be so dumb or arrogant t believe we are the only life in the universe! There are BILLIONS of stars just in our galaxy, all with potential planets. Then there are millions of galaxies. I mean we cant even get the nearest planet! never mind nearest star..

3) Do you think that neutrinos really can go faster than light, or was that a messed up test (all 15000 of them) they are now saying there could of been sme GPU glitch! Hmmm im not so sure..

4) Why do we take theories so literal, when they are only theories...


wow, obvious troll is obvious :p

1) oh man, yep! you totally caught us! we've NEVER even THOUGHT about anything like that before! well done!

2) it's actually a massive international conspiracy. you see, all scientists secretly serve the all mighty Zod, lord of the two dimensional slaughtering rat people! we keep ET on the down low so we can prepare you for the cheese and pestilence filled invasion to come!

3) i think neutrinos are secretly your mom.

4) FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU *explodes*


wow holy **** dude, this wasnt a troll at all. I was hoping you could offer some real debate on this, and the first 2 is actually something i am really interested in... Jeez. Perhaps you need to take meds...i was actually impressed with your knowledge, shame you just let yourself down...perhaps now answer a new question

like why do all the idiots like yourself come to play eve..
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#250 - 2012-02-23 23:32:25 UTC
Well for #2, we havn't had foreign life arrive here, or make themselves known to us. Also we have telescopes and Hubble scope. We dont see any life out there. We have radio and other instruments and there are no foreign waves out there life would create.

That kind of leads us to say there is no life out there. But recently planets that could sustain life have been found. Also what by life you mean aliens or just plants out there. Maybe in the life sustainable places trees could be there maybe, but or very primitive people. Just havn't seen or heard any so it seems there are none out there so far.

Just make a forum and invite inter-gallactic people to it. See if anyone shows up, and you will know the answer to it, I suppose.

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#251 - 2012-02-23 23:36:13 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:


like why do all the idiots like yourself come to play eve..


Because the Devs invite us to. More Idiots help grease the wheels for them.

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Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#252 - 2012-02-25 12:09:27 UTC
What would happen if there was an X-Files episode about Moulder and Scully finding a TV with X-Files playing on it?

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Korah Arnelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#253 - 2012-02-27 06:39:13 UTC
Tsadkiel wrote:
greetings!

I am currently working on my PhD in Particle Astrophysics and recent events have shown me that i need way, WAY more experience explaining sciencey type stuff to people. SO, i figure, where better to practice then on the forums of a Sci-Fi game =D

ask away!



How often does the rivalry between theoretical (mathematical) and experimental physicists come up in your work? I know at least from folks like Peter Woit, there's always been a bit of a rift between the two 'schools.'
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#254 - 2012-02-27 21:24:52 UTC
Korah Arnelle wrote:
Tsadkiel wrote:
greetings!

I am currently working on my PhD in Particle Astrophysics and recent events have shown me that i need way, WAY more experience explaining sciencey type stuff to people. SO, i figure, where better to practice then on the forums of a Sci-Fi game =D

ask away!



How often does the rivalry between theoretical (mathematical) and experimental physicists come up in your work? I know at least from folks like Peter Woit, there's always been a bit of a rift between the two 'schools.'


it certainly pops up, with quips and pokes in the cafeteria or over coffee and the like, but i've never (not yet at least) encountered a situation where this actually impeded work. some of the most successful and note worthy experiments in the history of physics have been collaborative efforts between both theoretical and experimental physicists. i tend to do a little bit of everything as far as theory and experiment goes on HAWC. so, on the one hand, i am developing new tools discriminate between gamma rays and hadrons and i am also teaching myself general relativity so i can better understand the current GRB engine models. on the other hand i'm working on getting our temperature probes running as well as a method to calibrate the PMTs in situ. some days i spend all my time on a computer or at the white board, and others i'm out at the site with a shovel heheh.
SirSpectre
Harbingers Of Destruction
#255 - 2012-02-28 02:00:21 UTC
I've always been wondering and have never gotten a clear answer on this:

What constrains the speed of light? I mean why does light travel 300,000km (ish) in one second rather than 1,000,000,000,000km in 1 second, or infinity km in 1 second?
0oO0oOoOo0o
Caldari State
#256 - 2012-02-28 12:55:13 UTC
How would telekinesis work from a particle scientist's point of view ?
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#257 - 2012-02-28 18:13:35 UTC
SirSpectre wrote:
I've always been wondering and have never gotten a clear answer on this:

What constrains the speed of light? I mean why does light travel 300,000km (ish) in one second rather than 1,000,000,000,000km in 1 second, or infinity km in 1 second?


the speed of light comes directly from CLASSICAL electrodynamics, which might be somewhat surprising given it's importance in relativity. maxwell's equations, which describe the behavior of electric and magnetic fields, yield a solution to something called the wave equation. the wave equation is a general, mathematical description to all wave phenomena, and the properties of any wave it describes can be determined by examining the behavior of this one equation (the velocity is one of these properties). the solutions produced by maxwell's equations describe a self propagating wave and the derived velocity from the wave equation is the inverse square root of the product of the permeability and permittivity of free space.

the permeability and permittivity of free space are usually denoted as mu_0 and epsilon_0 (greek letter lowercase mu, with a subscript 0, read as "mew" naught and epsilon naught). these are two very important constants in electrodynamics because they describe, in very loose terms, how much magnetic and electric potential energy you can pack into a vacuum (mu for magnetic, and epsilon for electric). they have the values of...

epsilon_0 = 8.85... E-12 F/m (Farads per meter, or in SI m^-3 kg^-1 s^4 A^2 where A is amps)

mu_0 = 1.25... E-6 H/m (Henrys per meter, or in SI m kg s^-2 A^-2. as an interesting side note this is exactly 4*pi E-7. this comes from how we have defined our units.)

and sure enough...

epsilon_0 * mu_0 = 8.85E-12 * 1.25E-6 = 1.10625E-17

1/sqrt(epsilon_0*mu_0) = 1/sqrt(1.10625E-17) = 300,658,411 m/s

we have made very precise measurements of both of these constants, and the more precise values we use, the closer and closer the calculation approaches c.

from this we can see that the speed of light being constant in all frames is a direct manifestation of it being defined based on the properties of the medium through which it is traveling (be it vacuum or matter), and these properties are completely independent of the velocity of the observer!
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#258 - 2012-02-28 18:57:13 UTC
Of all the methods of inter-stellar travel in scifi, which one(s) do you personally feel is the most theoretically sound and why?

Explain in layman's terms.

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Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#259 - 2012-02-28 20:26:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsadkiel
0oO0oOoOo0o wrote:
How would telekinesis work from a particle scientist's point of view ?


telekinesis would be something we refer to as a force demonstrating "action at a distance", like magnetic repulsion or attraction. in truth, all forces demonstrate, at a fundamental level, action at a distance. in the language of particle physics (the standard model) we would say that the momentum imparted on the object is transmitted by a "force carrier" particle (a photon, gluon, w or z boson, or a graviton). so, if you were telekinetic, and if you follow the standard model, you are transmitting and receiving virtual radiation to and from the object you are moving in the form of these particles.

imagine you and a friend are standing on a very smooth ice rink. you take out a baseball and toss it to your friend, who catches it. when you throw the ball, you also start sliding away from your friend. this is conservation of momentum. when your friend catches it, they start sliding away as well for the same reason. assuming we can think of the ice rink as frictionless, the more you toss the ball back and forth, the faster and faster you will slide apart. you're accelerating in small, discreet quantities every time you catch or throw the ball.

the fundamental mathematics of the "force carrier" particles are the same, but they also allow for attractive effects (that there is some way the ball could be thrown such that you both slide closer to each other).
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#260 - 2012-02-28 20:40:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsadkiel
Alpheias wrote:
Of all the methods of inter-stellar travel in scifi, which one(s) do you personally feel is the most theoretically sound and why?

Explain in layman's terms.



not eve online's, that's for sure. last time i read the lore it was talking about generating "negative friction"... i stopped there and cried.

i would say the method that is currently most theoretically sound is wormhole travel, because only it has a sound foundation in current theory (even though we have yet to observe one). another possibility might be the idea of "hyper/sub" space; a way of creating a pocket of space-time with different physical constraints which may allow for FTL travel.

for both of these we start with a piece of paper :3

suppose you are an ant living on this piece of paper, and you want to get from one side to the other. the obvious path would be to simply cross the paper in a straight line. but this takes time and is rather boring in general... so lets suppose that you are an ant who is wise in the ways of space and time, and you find a way to manipulate the paper you travel upon.

the quickest way now would be to simply curl the paper, so that the edge you are on coincides with the edge you want to get to! now you can simply walk from one edge to another and uncurl the paper! this would be like traveling through a wormhole.

another possibility would be to walk across, but crinkle the paper ahead of you, and stretch it out behind you as you go. walking over the crinkled paper allows you to cross a greater distance in the same time as walking over the uncrinkled paper. this constant stretching and bunching of the paper as you move would be like traveling through a pocket of space where the measurement of distance is different.

there are probably many MANY other ways, but these are the two i am most familiar with =D