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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-02-02 23:00:16 UTC
tell me more about theme parks, playgrounds and sandboxes

nerds

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
#22 - 2012-02-02 23:04:44 UTC
Says the guy posting on an internet spaceship games forums.
Captain Kyon
Z5-x02E07F Kultures
Xagenic Freymvork
#23 - 2012-02-02 23:18:04 UTC
i bought SWTOR... and paid for a month... and i only played for 2 days... it was really boring... i love starwars (and startrek) but their current gaming state is horrible...

i'll never leave you EvE.. except for the occasional BF3 P
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-02-02 23:55:48 UTC
Mr LaForge wrote:
Thats because eve is pvp in all forms.


So is WoW, using the criteria laid before us.
"If."
foxnod
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-02-03 00:14:12 UTC
Could we get a link for this STWOR thread?
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#26 - 2012-02-03 00:22:25 UTC
I've tried many MMOs... and most bore me.

The only one I am currently waiting for is the rumored Fallout one. Probably will be crap, but one can hope.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#27 - 2012-02-03 00:28:08 UTC
I was never interested in another MMO. EvE Was the first I tried.

I have since tried Black Prophecy. That lasted 2 hours.

...why try another MMO? It's a waste of valuable EvE game time.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Alara IonStorm
#28 - 2012-02-03 00:31:00 UTC
Gogela wrote:

I have since tried Black Prophecy. That lasted 2 hours.

About the same, the tutorial is boring as hell.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#29 - 2012-02-03 00:47:56 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
This is very true. Eve has pretty much ruined all other MMOs for me.


^^This^^

Warts and all, so very much this.

E: Nice to know I'm not the only one feeling it!

Ni.
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-02-03 02:17:32 UTC
Darrow Hill wrote:
You didn't enjoy playing Huttball over and over and over and over again?




It got old after about 3 games lol. SWTOR PvP is sad.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#31 - 2012-02-03 03:31:50 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Gogela wrote:

I have since tried Black Prophecy. That lasted 2 hours.

About the same, the tutorial is boring as hell.

I just wanted some freelancer style stick and rudder but despite having a pretty good up and down the game was just to laggy for twitch combat. I hope dust isn't like that...

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#32 - 2012-02-03 04:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Dbars Grinding
EVE and FFXI ruined all other MMOS for me also. FFXI for the amazing PVE and EVE for PVP. Last new mmo i tryed was RIFT and i couldnt make it past lvl 30 before being bored to tears. Actually i lied if i wanna pvp i play WoT and BF3.

I have more space likes than you. 
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-02-03 04:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Degren
Darrow Hill wrote:
You didn't enjoy playing Huttball over and over and over and over again?





FROG DOGS HAVE THE BALL

SWTOR got old *insanely* fast, but at least rocket charge was funny for intercepting passes in Huttball.

What amused me most were all the people defending the game so profusely. "All MMOs have issues on release" ...except its the worst launch I've seen since 2007 (Edit: Scratch that, I forgot about Mortal Online), from one of the biggest game devs backed by the biggest publisher...with many, MANY smaller, modern games coming out with virtually no issues and better end games. Arguments in support of the terrible release are invalid.

While Eve readers may not care/understand, the ability delay issue was horrible for those of us who did end-game pvp in other, similar games. (Oh that's fine, game, I don't need to interrupt his heal or anything. You're right) Pretty much all the end game pvpers (read: Gladiators from BG9) who migrated over left in the first three weeks. Awkward!

Anyways, /rant off...Eve makes me happy. I'm sure it will also make me very, very angry. But mostly, happy. If for no other reason than how badly station trading in Jita messes with prices...for the "crazy economic pvp game" that this is, it's kinda awkward how easy it is to exploit the market.

Gotta get my butt out in space so people can exploit my tin can.

Hello, hello again.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#34 - 2012-02-03 05:22:03 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

Eve is unique and that is why its playerbase loves it so much and sticks with it even when things are rough.


/bittervet
EvE succeeds, despite CCP's best efforts to screw it up year after year.
(Is still in shock at how well CCP has performed over the past 3-4 months at actually fixing broken things.)

I think the annoying things about TOR was that Coruscant felt tiny. There was no sense anywhere of "this is where people live" or "this is where people work". Imagine the cities in WoW, if they boarded up every single doorway that didn't have a quest NPC standing behind it, then blocked off a dozen more behind locked doors which only open if you're on that quest step.

The republic city in Anchorhead felt more like a real location then Coruscant did.

Then there's the whole ineptness of Bioware to actually fix things and improve the game in small, frequent, updates. It's pretty obvious that their development process is severely flawed/broken if they can't roll out bug fixes as fast as a smaller shop like CCP.
Parthonax
#35 - 2012-02-03 07:07:21 UTC
as a new player myself i am looking forward to it in this game , i have a long history of playing other MMO's and only recently started playing EVE, Shame on me for believing the sometimes really negative feedbacks you read on other MMO s forums
I admit i didn't had much time last few weeks and only finished my last tutorial yesterday , i m hoping i will have much more time from next month onwards, i am really looking forward to get my hands dirty 
so this is permanence
Kopfy
#36 - 2012-02-03 08:04:55 UTC
I actually enjoy swtor for the singelplayer rollercoaster it is.
But as the sith inquisitor attraction ends i'll be back to the sandbox.

It's just sad they had to spoil swtor with all of thouse weird npcs
spaming in general/local and danceing here and there.
Gantz Tleilax
Divided Unity
#37 - 2012-02-03 08:13:24 UTC
Eve's pvp kind of bums me out. There really isn't much of a death penalty. I think they should institute a 30 day account ban when you die. That way it would actually mean something.

Right now it's boo hoo, I lost a ship, which cost $10 in real life.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#38 - 2012-02-03 08:30:09 UTC
I finally realized these things too, sometime middle of last year. Decided it was EVE or nothing. Even tried SWTOR. Blah. Waste of however much money I spent on that damn game.
Kaneda Kurosawa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-02-03 08:50:33 UTC
Yup, keep coming back to EvE despite being dragged away from time to time to other very bland MMO. For me the lack of death penalty is definitely the killer. EQ1 had a great death penalty and I remember many long nights trying to do corpse runs.

Long Live EvE

Ding a ding dang my dang along ling long
Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-02-03 09:09:37 UTC
SWTOR is a game where you can pause or leave anytime. There's nothing to lose. It's a nice alternative to EVE to relax and enjoy the great story-telling.

SWTOR = 80% enjoyment with 20% boredom
EVE (here) = 80% boredom (chatting, roaming, hard to find fair PvP... but that's EVE) but 20% (PvP) awesomeness

This 20% awesomeness and the real sandbox where the players affect the game and develeopment makes it a real MMORPG and not a "console game" like SWTOR.
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