EVE General Discussion

Vote for Nicolo da'Vicenza for CSM and by advocating the removal of npc corps (make individuals decable) and dec evasion + bounty system overhaul I will turn hisec into an orgy of blood and gore so deep that it will overcome the fastest interceptor and drown the biggest orca.

This here is reasons why I dont like people that live in a corner of a galaxy they have not though entirely though what they will be destroying.

What a ridiculous statement.

Did that make sense to you as it came out of your head and you typed it?

You're trying waaay too hard to refute the whole basement thing.

Nerfing highsec PI did little they just remigrate to other more profitable activities or overcome the obstabcle by price adjustment. Didn't you learn that from the lvl 4s debacle back in the day? Shoving them out to the barracudas will likely not keep them in the game which leads to high sec pvper starvation the same sort of starvation plauging low seccers because these barracudas do not want to mess with the sharks only smaller weaker fish.

War Dec system is broken yes, needs a major overhaul yes, but I have seen it far to often that such corps get what I label as war vultures. They find a 'victimized' corp and war dec them into the ground which is why they nerf the build up on multiple war decs on a singular corp, this eventually changed to a non stop **** train. Which so far hasnt been countered game wise yet. However this has lead to quarry leaving the 'hunting' grounds. Leave no place for the quarry to run to and youll wind up with alot of players leaving the 66% they claim to be.

Its not a simple fix is a system wide change you will have to introduce also isnt your idea of the bounties getting torn up in FnI for being alt transferable still? I mean many have tried to suggest a fix in the past and every time I walked in there its either me or somone else finding a way to screw over somone entirely out of thier isk completely.

At least my idea on fixing the bounty system is not alt worth transferable but makes bounty hunting nearly worthless. However it does make valuable war targets a bigger pinanta to break open getting more than just a kill mail. Something needs to be thought up of that isnt so exploitable and worthwhile.

There is a level of experince that eve needs to create, and throwing people out in the cold alone and to the wolves is not particularly a good idea its probably the leading cause to player loss followed by bitter noob/vet syndrome.

Yes I agree the war system is messed up, yes I would love to see cowards punished and where high sec concerned it should be the isk since its the only real concrete thing you can tangibilize in high sec.

Also why do you want to remove the all important player forged meta-game? Yes alts in npc corps are all part of the metagame but have you seriously hung out in some NPC corps long enough, youll see that there are newer players there always looking for help and the alt veterans no matter where they are or what they are making those alts for supporting them despite that the alt might be in a velator with a cloak camping in a bot system. Help channel isnt enough for these pilots these days. NPC corps are vital for the games growth functioning as a nursery for newer players.

Also if you do have an idea you should probably purpose it in FnI because there are those who all they do is try to break things in FnI and make it exploitable for systems like these. If we can break it on paper what makes you think it won't be broken in practice?

Ultimately I seriously think you never thought of any of your suggestions entirely though on thier impact and all angles.

Every Idea I suggest in FnI I do let people shot it down gives me an oppertunity to shoot back with something better. Unfourtuantely the war system and bounty systems are both that had been.... dead ended for months on end nobody has come up with a idea better than what is originally CCP's idea of bounty pay per kill which was self shot down after they realized it make bounty hunting worthless.

Hmmm where have I heard this before. Oh yes every complaint ever. Complainers never accomplish anything to be honest specially the kind that sits on their hands and doesnt question the better way of doing things.

All you have done so far was complained and say you have a plan but you're to afraid to publish it? Why afraid of ridicule somone comming along and shooting holes into your idea and sinking it?

Also you assume too much and you jump before you leap and leaves on to wonder if you do it ingame as well. No wonder why you're bitter.

So lets take a look at things.
If you get rid of npc corps...

You lose the very nice 15% tax rate they suffer for being in such group.
There is the question where they are going to start now with the corporations gone.
You lose a very good potential tool for 'control' over not just new players but also alts there as ccp proved it can be entirely possible to add other means of control.
You lose a nice cozy place to teach the new blood who if they can convince the players to stay is that much more that adds to the game. Where people who quit over the issue of npc corps existing are far fewer in number I can almost gaurantee that.
What to replace it with?
How does this help NPE since new blood is considerably more important than old blood?
Arent you afraid of one man corp profiliation? I mean its bad enough these guys can sky rocket rental in an office to 50 million+ a month.
Where is a new player going to go?
Let alone start at no npc corp no nothing?
Stations the NPC corps own what of them cant really delete them?
Also majority of the skillbooks in Eve come from npc corps. What then?
What happens to oh say your corporation suddenly disbanned?
How are you going to tell people a recruit channel exists let alone other corps or a cheap easy outlet to acutally recruit people is now gone?

Secondly leveled directly at you.

I highly question your logistical warfare abilities honestly if they are hauling that much in goods why in the eff havent you started suicide ganking them?
I highly question your metagaming capabilties as well as you seem unable to cause any mayhem to these 'immune' corporations.
I highly question your high sec game play capabilities as well as it seems that you are entirely clueless on how to nail people without firing a single shot.

Finally one more thing that really puzzels the logic side of things.

If you say well we can give them no corp at all? Which is what I am gandering your complaints are going to solutionize to.
How are you going to declare war against an 'individual'?
Which really really really begs the question... If you allow individual war declaration isnt that the same as 'greifing' by Eve ELUA?
Concord protects individuals just as much as NPC corpers do last time I checked. You're almost better off asking to remove high sec and low sec all together.

Seriously you fell for that bait?... sigh people.

Tell me how are you going to war dec an individual then?

And that is considered the bannable version of greifing in eve you do know that right?

You're not going to drop that are you even though it was labeled as bait on the questionaire?
Let you on a hint I was asked to purposly state the wrong number as part of profiling on behalf of somone else.

Secondly you're looking at the definition backwards. You need to go to Eve's definition of greifing instead.