Intergalactic Summit

Ston, I believe many capsuleers, myself included, see words as weapons.

This is not an incorrect view. The issue comes in when the weapon is used, as is so often the case with capsuleers, for no other reason than to start a fight.

One of the goals of MAJTH is to promote the virtue of prudence amongst the capsuleer class as one of the highest virtues, behind only faith and mercy.

ALLIANCE OR NOT?

In our slave rescue work, we have found many partners and like minded people. It may surprise some, that these individuals come from a diversity of races, nationalities and political interests. SOme of these indivduals are even at war with each other. Given all their differences, mercy towards those who are left to die, binds people together for action.

When we began this organization, I told Edaine, that while he was not required to be a strict disciple in the sense that he had to embrace pacifism, all Disciples applicant would have to. Further, we would never "fleet up" or join and alliance with those who actively engage in combat. We knew at the time, that the future would pressure us to compromise that stand some day. For instance, joining an alliance has huge advantages when trying to survive in dangerous low. null, and sub null parts of space. So, when asked to join an alliance, it gives us pause. However, in the end, we respectfully decline.

Respectfully! Why? I have grown to appreciate many of the members of this alliance; their honor, restraint and self control, and the principles for which they stand. Even though we are not formally enjoining ourselves in alliance, I do hope that we will cooperate in the rescue of those left to die in space and in the working towards the freedom of all races and peoples.

The Disciples of Ston bod you peace

Why offer vocational training to former slaves if they cannot move about freely in so-called "free space?" We will offer what freedom we can and hope for more in the future. Why shouldn't these rescued former slaves be offered the opportunity for the education and training of their choice? The Mother, Father, and five children that made the journey to our vocational center represent the first group who have decided to make the step of furthering their training and "be free" in spite of the turpitude of the State, Federation, and Republic.

The Disciples of Ston will transport these brave people wherever they are willing to take the risk to go.

We also have a group of former slaves who wish to open an Academic Study Center for those who wish to pursue higher degrees. We will be working on that in the near future.

We put the call out to all freedom loving pilots who, themselves, have been caring for rescued former slaves to consider bringing them to one of our centers or allowing us to transport them. If the hypocrites in government won't give genuine freedom to the former slave, let us give what we can.

This is very wise, and I wish more capsuleers would pay attention to the fact that they have a duty of care to the people on board their vessels.

Yes, they know what they were in for. This doesn't mean they should be treated like meat.

I quite like what the Disciples are doing, at least so far as your work to improve creation from the bottom up goes. Keep it up.

The Minmatar industrial vessel called the "Hoarder" is not a real fancy deal, but it is a great rescue vessel. When outfitted with two Tech 2 shield extenders and two or three warp core stabilizers, it is a safe vessel for rescue work. No weapons are needed. The capsuleer pilot controls many things on board, but her crew are the first responders; they are the first ones to meet the real needs of those rescued when they are transported from their "death cans" onto the rescue ship.

This is where the capsuleer in our "self-important" power, fades and real humans take over doing what only flesh and blood can do. While I am floating in my vat of ecto-plasm, my crew is performing first aid and calming the hysterical. I cannot commend my crew enough for how they handled 425 rescued people this evening. What chaos! but they have gorwn in experience now not just as crew men and women, but as counselors and crisis managers.

At times like these, I am grateful that I can do my part in this mission, but I also feel removed. Yes, back at the station, I can mingle with the people and do my part, but when I am in the egg, there is no personal connection, at least not like my crew has. I am wired to the ship, enclosed in my pod.

Some capsuleers thrive in this sense of being aloof. I do not. It is the worst part about being who we are. I am going to do everything I can to stay connected to the "real humans" out there, lest I lose my "human" soul.

I've had enough frankly...

For the last few months I tried to be nice and ignore this little.... propaganda **** pot but I had it up to here.

No capsulleer in their right or mind regardless of how amoral they are would leave anyone in space unless said party has incurred the capsulleers wrath in a way that could possibly in some semi rare cases warrant leaving someone in a can in space.

This is not to justify the action mind but to point out that no one could or would leave anyone in space in any realistic environment.

Even the must debase of souls would ransoms said persons or enslave them. So explain to me in the name of God why the hell is there over 20 pages both from the old IGS and the new one to which we are now using combined of people leaving anyone behind in cans?

Once a year? Sure. Twice? Maybe? More then three or more? Your kidding right?

This unrealistic projection done by the Disciples of Ston is nothing more then a very weak attempt to validate their existence on the IGS so they can feel like they are helping. All they have for proof of these assumed persons who would leave people behind is their word. Nothing more.

Because in this "UNIVERSE" and I stress that in ways I hope to God are abundantly clear no one would ever do that.

I shall be making it my concern to see this thread removed by Concord on the grounds of slander for the purpose of propaganda.

BIOMASS

To some, that is what the clone body is. To others it is more. We have found a minority within New Eden that maintain enough human connection that the body is more than just a replaceable biomass to house the consciousness. To those to whom it matters, the body is an integrated presence with the infomorph of mind, emotion, and will that possesses it. The physical and non-physical shape and influence each other. The body become unique and continues to evelop in unique ways the instant it is joined with the infomorph.

This morning I contracted a body to one of those rare capsuleers who wanted it back. Something Manwe said recently has struck me again; something about how the capsuleer tends to be "aloof." It is yet a mystery whether or not the infomorph will ever have an independent consciousness. As it stands, we need the body for existence as we know it. The body still ties us to our humanity.

We intend to treat it with dignity.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace.

I just picked up chatter in Niarja local. There are other pilots picking up slaves at the Kaap gate. Likely to be sold back into slavery.

I have to agree with this. Kithrus, spend a little time flying around the empires proper. Spend some time talking with some of the monsters who call themselves capsuleers.

You'll see that creation needs a lot of work to be put right.

It is the Disciple kind of thing to forgive others, even for what appears to be willful ignorance. You obviously haven't looked at the whole of what the Disciples are doing. Can you say "Ma-tric-u-la-tion?" How many times do we have to explain our Matriculation program before you understand what we are doing for those we rescue from death in a jet can in space.

Would you have us just leave these people to die? Ran'shad? Read our Matriculation thread and you will see that we are not doing anything like what you are saying, neither are we boasting. We are reporting what we see and what we are doing.

Now, you reflect very poorly on yourself by describing former slaves as not capable of interaction with society at large or able to make decisions for themselves...animal instinct. Is that how you treat your slaves? Ranshad? We have spoken with many Amarrian holders who say the opposite. They say that their slaves are educated, trained, socially well adjusted, professional in conduct, and equipped not only to relate, but also to lead. Are you saying that these holders are lying, Ranshad? Are you saying that most holders treat their slaves in such a way that they are, in your own words, " not capable to interact with the galactic society at large, many cannot even make decisions for themselves apart form the very basics - bordering more on the animal survival instinct?" You condemn yourself, Ranshad. You should pay more attention to what you are saying before you write it down.

We rescue slaves that are jettisoned into space because slave traders don't want to bother with them. We rescue those left to die and you accuse us of doing damage. We take them in to our Matriculation Centers, Vocational training Centers, Academic Learning Centers, and you accuse us of doing damage.

I think we need to make room on our wall of shame for you.