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Aggressive Nutmeg
#81 - 2012-02-08 06:23:19 UTC
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:
He's one of those close minded morons, convinced of their superior intellect.


I apologize that you feel intimidated by someone who posts above the third grade level. With that in mind, I have a four year old here, I asked him to tell me what I should call you in response to your assertion that I am a "close minded moron".

He said you are a "stinky pants doo doo head". I hope that is on your level and we can have further dialogue.

While you're busy exposing your child to the juvenile aspects of Eve, why don't you also teach him some decent swear words? Roll

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#82 - 2012-02-08 06:41:02 UTC
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:
He's one of those close minded morons, convinced of their superior intellect.


I apologize that you feel intimidated by someone who posts above the third grade level. With that in mind, I have a four year old here, I asked him to tell me what I should call you in response to your assertion that I am a "close minded moron".

He said you are a "stinky pants doo doo head". I hope that is on your level and we can have further dialogue.



Lol Well, you understood that exactly like one would expect of someone with your condition.

Let me break it down for you. Notice that I said "convinced" and not just "of superior intellect". Convinced, for no other reason but that it's you and it's simply impossible for YOU not be awesome. I believe there is even a professional term for it... Blink

Also, nice discussions you have with your four year old Roll

In the end your posts are irrelevant to this thread. What does your alleged trading expertise have to do with ganking hulks? I'm sure you have a legitimate reason why we must know! Lol
eddie valvetino
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#83 - 2012-02-08 11:14:23 UTC
T1 fitted Alpha cane with insurance

job done
Beggs
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#84 - 2012-02-08 18:09:37 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
So, if you aren't a miner and you aren't a ganker, why are you even posting here? Roll

Its not 'how much' ISK you make - its HOW its made.

Some people like instapopping Hulks and Macks, and pulling ISK from their smoking wreckage - then selling those same miners brand new Hulks and Macks - then tracking and popping them again until they quit EVE.

Others like sitting in Jita and playing 0.01 ISK games all day long with the market bots.

Earning 120-150B+ via trade isn't particularly hard, or even worth bragging about. I know, because I've done it. It literally requires the brainpower of a chimp - so congrats. You are on par with a lower primate.

And ganking Exhumers doesn't require profit - only to generate tears and rage-quits. But earning some extra ISK in the bargain sure as hell doesn't hurt.


"tracking and popping them again until they quit EVE"

Are you a sociopath in real life or is giving people a hard time in eve enough for you?


Beggs
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#85 - 2012-02-08 19:18:46 UTC
ganking miners may not be overly challenging but it sure as hell is a lot more thought and skill intensive than trying to gank a rock
Alxea
Unstable Pirate Sharks Of The Damed Sea
#86 - 2012-02-09 03:20:52 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Hulks are a little tougher, but killing 3 per Tornado is not particularly difficult, especially if you know what their tank looks like.




This is UTTER BS. Show API verified kilmail or it's not real..........................

Oh, and YOU need better support after ganking my Mack last year and I was able to loot and salvage MY OWN MACK with Orca as they were way too slow or something. Roll I came out 5 Mill on the POSITIVE side after Insurance.

BTW, the ONLY way you got me was hitting me while I was fighting rats and distracted.

"Let's kill...even obvious Non-bots".


Boy, you really bent over something that happened a long-ass time ago.

a) not so difficult to loot your own Mack when the Orca is sitting right there.
b) I recovered my own Tempest wreck, you don't have to lie about it again to make yourself feel better.
c) coming out positive? nice try, nobody is going to believe that. Macks are expensive and have Retriever insurance.

But thats all ancient history, back in the sucky, one kill at a time, insured-Tempest era.

Oh, but if you don't think a Tornado can't wrack up multiple kills, you are an idiot.

Buck Futz for month of January:
http://y0ink.us/killboard/?a=home&y=2012&m=1

Thats nearly 40 Billion in damage in about a month of on and off ganking. Only a few Typhoon SB and dessie kills mixed in, the vast majority are Tornado kills, generally in 0.7, and generally at a rate of between 2 and 3 Exhumers per Tornado. (I've gotten better as I've improved my tactics - also, Gallente ice belts have tanked Exhumers due to the recent Goon interdiction - I'm sure I could post an even better ratio in Caldari space.

DAAAMMMMMN.......look at how stupid you are now, Krixtal Icefluxor.
You are telling the true. I have seen it myself. It is quite impressive. Something I may enjoy doing as well like I use to do in the past a lot.
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2012-02-09 03:26:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodoric Darkwind
http://pwwn.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11450037 Look for the ones with loltastic tanks and its pretty easy, I almost had enough time to get this guys pod. I didn't even notice his T2 rigs until after I posted the kmPirate
Alxea
Unstable Pirate Sharks Of The Damed Sea
#88 - 2012-02-09 03:35:29 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
ganking miners may not be overly challenging but it sure as hell is a lot more thought and skill intensive than trying to gank a rock

The whole reason to do it is several reasons. They are easy, people in highsec think they are safe, some people don't have a lot of time to roam for several hours to get some kills in 0.0, and most of the time it is just blobs online. The tears you get from ganking a miner can be better then most reactions. I have college so I can not be bothered to put several hours into a game in a fleet or to find somebody that doesn't want to die. Surprise kills are sometimes all we have time for.

Many times I have pirated, done 0.0, flown in gangs, gotten solo kills vs fleets. Sometimes you get tired of doing the same thing over again. Ever since the implants can now be seen in km's I have enjoyed that. Doesn't make me any more less skilled a few months ago when I use to solo people. Possibly a little more rusty at it. It just is not as fun anymore and I got tired of waiting all day just to find decent fights. Just because I have a page or 2 of just pods or somebody with several pages of exumer kills doesn't make them bad pilots. The point really is, a kill is a kill. If your good at it why stop if you don't like what they do?

Everybody is just objective because they don't like how somebody gets a kill. There is no wrong way in this game. Good luck stopping those sort of people who are above the law. I do it all, however and whenever I wish to play the game. Nobody tells me how to play a game to have fun. I just do what I feel like doing at the time and soon that will change too.
Alxea
Unstable Pirate Sharks Of The Damed Sea
#89 - 2012-02-09 12:01:16 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
You don't have to take a loss. You can actually do this stuff profitably - without getting insurance.
I don't think CCP has quite realized the full ganking potential of the Tornado - or just how insanely destructive it is. FAR better than the old Tempests, and not just because they fit inside an Orca. Its like they are trolling miners or something.

Brutixes kind of suck because you can only realistically kill one target at a time. Thoraxes, same, but at least the are cheaper.
Use the Tornado and kill at least 2 or 3 Mackinaws on each run, and earn some ISK.
Kill 4 or more and make a lot of ISK. (provided you are able to loot and salvage effectively.)
Hulks are a little tougher, but killing 3 per Tornado is not particularly difficult, especially if you know what their tank looks like.

Oh, you can easily do this in crowded 0.7 ice belts. In theory, things could get pretty ugly in 0.5. You could probably manage to kill 6+ per Tornado there, but finding enough targets can be difficult....



I really like the Tornado, spent some time testing it on the test server. Can kill 2 machs. If your lucky it can alpha todeath an untanked hulk with a single shot vs a noob. I really like that fact. I am near maxed in the tornado. The max that is possible is about 20k damage with 2 shots. So even a decently tanked hulk will die. Max tanked hulks get up to about 25k, they can be killed with a gallente tear 3 BC. I also can do about 1500 DPS with that ship.
Kali Fin
White SANDS SPACE
#90 - 2012-02-09 15:09:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Kali Fin
Alxea wrote:


I really like the Tornado, spent some time testing it on the test server. Can kill 2 machs. If your lucky it can alpha todeath an untanked hulk with a single shot vs a noob. I really like that fact. I am near maxed in the tornado. The max that is possible is about 20k damage with 2 shots. So even a decently tanked hulk will die. Max tanked hulks get up to about 25k, they can be killed with a gallente tear 3 BC. I also can do about 1500 DPS with that ship.


I've had a lot of success with the Talos. Hulks, even decently tanked ones, stood no chance. 8 T2 neutrons with void and 4 T2 mag stabs (maybe a point or two if you're going after a few ships) and you're done. Cost is around 70 mil to fit it out, but you can easily get 2 hulks with it in a 0.6. Fair warning, scan your prey to make sure they aren't uber tanked, just in case.

Also: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/goonswarm-guide-to-highsec-ganking.html

Mitten's guide to ganking things as brought to you by the one and only Poetic Stanziel

I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#91 - 2012-02-09 18:33:51 UTC
Kali Fin wrote:
Alxea wrote:


I really like the Tornado, spent some time testing it on the test server. Can kill 2 machs. If your lucky it can alpha todeath an untanked hulk with a single shot vs a noob. I really like that fact. I am near maxed in the tornado. The max that is possible is about 20k damage with 2 shots. So even a decently tanked hulk will die. Max tanked hulks get up to about 25k, they can be killed with a gallente tear 3 BC. I also can do about 1500 DPS with that ship.


I've had a lot of success with the Talos. Hulks, even decently tanked ones, stood no chance. 8 T2 neutrons with void and 4 T2 mag stabs (maybe a point or two if you're going after a few ships) and you're done. Cost is around 70 mil to fit it out, but you can easily get 2 hulks with it in a 0.6. Fair warning, scan your prey to make sure they aren't uber tanked, just in case.

Also: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/goonswarm-guide-to-highsec-ganking.html

Mitten's guide to ganking things as brought to you by the one and only Poetic Stanziel


IMHO, the Talos is the most brutal suicide ganking vessel available today.

I wrote a guide to fighting hulkageddon, that includes how to actually tank a hulk against suicide attacks.

It provides a lot of useful information, for both the ganker to gank, and the gankee to survive.
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#92 - 2012-02-09 19:29:38 UTC
Alxea wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
ganking miners may not be overly challenging but it sure as hell is a lot more thought and skill intensive than trying to gank a rock

The whole reason to do it is several reasons. They are easy, people in highsec think they are safe, some people don't have a lot of time to roam for several hours to get some kills in 0.0, and most of the time it is just blobs online. The tears you get from ganking a miner can be better then most reactions. I have college so I can not be bothered to put several hours into a game in a fleet or to find somebody that doesn't want to die. Surprise kills are sometimes all we have time for.

Many times I have pirated, done 0.0, flown in gangs, gotten solo kills vs fleets. Sometimes you get tired of doing the same thing over again. Ever since the implants can now be seen in km's I have enjoyed that. Doesn't make me any more less skilled a few months ago when I use to solo people. Possibly a little more rusty at it. It just is not as fun anymore and I got tired of waiting all day just to find decent fights. Just because I have a page or 2 of just pods or somebody with several pages of exumer kills doesn't make them bad pilots. The point really is, a kill is a kill. If your good at it why stop if you don't like what they do?

Everybody is just objective because they don't like how somebody gets a kill. There is no wrong way in this game. Good luck stopping those sort of people who are above the law. I do it all, however and whenever I wish to play the game. Nobody tells me how to play a game to have fun. I just do what I feel like doing at the time and soon that will change too.

i'm -10

ganking now, ganking forever
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#93 - 2012-02-09 19:30:55 UTC
Kali Fin wrote:

I've had a lot of success with the Talos. Hulks, even decently tanked ones, stood no chance. 8 T2 neutrons with void and 4 T2 mag stabs (maybe a point or two if you're going after a few ships) and you're done. Cost is around 70 mil to fit it out, but you can easily get 2 hulks with it in a 0.6. Fair warning, scan your prey to make sure they aren't uber tanked, just in case.l

a well-skilled brutix, if it lands next to two untanked mackinaws, can kill them both

often these days the brutix isn't the right choice - it's tornado, catalyst, thorax, or talos - but in those cases it owns pretty hard
Alxea
Unstable Pirate Sharks Of The Damed Sea
#94 - 2012-02-09 23:52:37 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
Alxea wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
ganking miners may not be overly challenging but it sure as hell is a lot more thought and skill intensive than trying to gank a rock

The whole reason to do it is several reasons. They are easy, people in highsec think they are safe, some people don't have a lot of time to roam for several hours to get some kills in 0.0, and most of the time it is just blobs online. The tears you get from ganking a miner can be better then most reactions. I have college so I can not be bothered to put several hours into a game in a fleet or to find somebody that doesn't want to die. Surprise kills are sometimes all we have time for.

Many times I have pirated, done 0.0, flown in gangs, gotten solo kills vs fleets. Sometimes you get tired of doing the same thing over again. Ever since the implants can now be seen in km's I have enjoyed that. Doesn't make me any more less skilled a few months ago when I use to solo people. Possibly a little more rusty at it. It just is not as fun anymore and I got tired of waiting all day just to find decent fights. Just because I have a page or 2 of just pods or somebody with several pages of exumer kills doesn't make them bad pilots. The point really is, a kill is a kill. If your good at it why stop if you don't like what they do?

Everybody is just objective because they don't like how somebody gets a kill. There is no wrong way in this game. Good luck stopping those sort of people who are above the law. I do it all, however and whenever I wish to play the game. Nobody tells me how to play a game to have fun. I just do what I feel like doing at the time and soon that will change too.

i'm -10

ganking now, ganking forever


As it should be. Pirate
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#95 - 2012-02-10 01:27:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Herr Wilkus
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Kali Fin wrote:
Alxea wrote:


I really like the Tornado, spent some time testing it on the test server. Can kill 2 machs. If your lucky it can alpha todeath an untanked hulk with a single shot vs a noob. I really like that fact. I am near maxed in the tornado. The max that is possible is about 20k damage with 2 shots. So even a decently tanked hulk will die. Max tanked hulks get up to about 25k, they can be killed with a gallente tear 3 BC. I also can do about 1500 DPS with that ship.


I've had a lot of success with the Talos. Hulks, even decently tanked ones, stood no chance. 8 T2 neutrons with void and 4 T2 mag stabs (maybe a point or two if you're going after a few ships) and you're done. Cost is around 70 mil to fit it out, but you can easily get 2 hulks with it in a 0.6. Fair warning, scan your prey to make sure they aren't uber tanked, just in case.

Also: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/goonswarm-guide-to-highsec-ganking.html

Mitten's guide to ganking things as brought to you by the one and only Poetic Stanziel


IMHO, the Talos is the most brutal suicide ganking vessel available today.

I wrote a guide to fighting hulkageddon, that includes how to actually tank a hulk against suicide attacks.

It provides a lot of useful information, for both the ganker to gank, and the gankee to survive.


Perhaps you are feeding disinformation, but if you believe the Talos is the best ganking boat out there - you are WAY off base. Especially in context of Hulkaggedon. Talos excels at one thing - dropping three of them on a badly fit Orca, point blank range.

Tornados are far and away better. If CCP understood just HOW much better they'd probably break out the nerf bat, because they are only hugging carebear nutsak these days. Most Torandos don't get used to the most of their capabilities yet, and STILL outsell the Talos by a huge margin - what 5 to 1?
Alxea
Unstable Pirate Sharks Of The Damed Sea
#96 - 2012-02-10 13:37:03 UTC
Frillo Teslar wrote:
Ubiquitous Forum Alt wrote:
Aqriue wrote:
**** miners, have NPC seed minerals at outragous prices to create a new isk sink and remove exhumers from game. Problem solved. No more lossing your expensive paper thin tank ships which the only reason to fly them is to act the part of a goat tied down to an asteroid field and just die (like that scene from Jurrasic Park), no more easier KM padding and you hurt their precious gamer score because they now have to play the game on more then Hello Kitty Mode for easy kills.


I wasn't even aware that Hello Kitty *had* a PvP mode....let alone one where you could easily rampage through and slaughter other players on a whim.....Shocked


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dYI_S0vDU8

Looks awesome...

OMG like the cuteness is totally too much for a hardened girl criminal to bare... Please excuse me while I stab my eyes out and replace them with monocles. Shocked Think the colors bloody blinded me mate. P
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#97 - 2012-02-10 20:18:14 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Kali Fin wrote:
Alxea wrote:


I really like the Tornado, spent some time testing it on the test server. Can kill 2 machs. If your lucky it can alpha todeath an untanked hulk with a single shot vs a noob. I really like that fact. I am near maxed in the tornado. The max that is possible is about 20k damage with 2 shots. So even a decently tanked hulk will die. Max tanked hulks get up to about 25k, they can be killed with a gallente tear 3 BC. I also can do about 1500 DPS with that ship.


I've had a lot of success with the Talos. Hulks, even decently tanked ones, stood no chance. 8 T2 neutrons with void and 4 T2 mag stabs (maybe a point or two if you're going after a few ships) and you're done. Cost is around 70 mil to fit it out, but you can easily get 2 hulks with it in a 0.6. Fair warning, scan your prey to make sure they aren't uber tanked, just in case.

Also: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/goonswarm-guide-to-highsec-ganking.html

Mitten's guide to ganking things as brought to you by the one and only Poetic Stanziel


IMHO, the Talos is the most brutal suicide ganking vessel available today.

I wrote a guide to fighting hulkageddon, that includes how to actually tank a hulk against suicide attacks.

It provides a lot of useful information, for both the ganker to gank, and the gankee to survive.


Perhaps you are feeding disinformation, but if you believe the Talos is the best ganking boat out there - you are WAY off base. Especially in context of Hulkaggedon. Talos excels at one thing - dropping three of them on a badly fit Orca, point blank range.

Tornados are far and away better. If CCP understood just HOW much better they'd probably break out the nerf bat, because they are only hugging carebear nutsak these days. Most Torandos don't get used to the most of their capabilities yet, and STILL outsell the Talos by a huge margin - what 5 to 1?


Please educate me, as I lack a lot of experience in actually ganking hulks. When it comes to suicide ganking experience, I'm just an EFT warrior... I'm beginning to think my limited PvP experience is just not relevant to this situation!

Do you recommend arty or autocannon tornados?? And is the inferiority of the talos due to its fixed damage types, its poor damage projection, or its fitting options?
thuzad Kael
Doomheim
#98 - 2012-02-11 16:45:46 UTC
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Trader+102
10 macks and a pod with 1 phoon in 0.7 system. sadly i miscalculated and only got 1 pod. useing a disco phoon fit witch takes less then 9 days to train and fit with a fresh minmatar char. total cost of phoon and fit when bought: 75m
Kali Fin
White SANDS SPACE
#99 - 2012-02-13 17:21:07 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Kali Fin wrote:
Alxea wrote:


I really like the Tornado, spent some time testing it on the test server. Can kill 2 machs. If your lucky it can alpha todeath an untanked hulk with a single shot vs a noob. I really like that fact. I am near maxed in the tornado. The max that is possible is about 20k damage with 2 shots. So even a decently tanked hulk will die. Max tanked hulks get up to about 25k, they can be killed with a gallente tear 3 BC. I also can do about 1500 DPS with that ship.


I've had a lot of success with the Talos. Hulks, even decently tanked ones, stood no chance. 8 T2 neutrons with void and 4 T2 mag stabs (maybe a point or two if you're going after a few ships) and you're done. Cost is around 70 mil to fit it out, but you can easily get 2 hulks with it in a 0.6. Fair warning, scan your prey to make sure they aren't uber tanked, just in case.

Also: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/goonswarm-guide-to-highsec-ganking.html

Mitten's guide to ganking things as brought to you by the one and only Poetic Stanziel


IMHO, the Talos is the most brutal suicide ganking vessel available today.

I wrote a guide to fighting hulkageddon, that includes how to actually tank a hulk against suicide attacks.

It provides a lot of useful information, for both the ganker to gank, and the gankee to survive.


Perhaps you are feeding disinformation, but if you believe the Talos is the best ganking boat out there - you are WAY off base. Especially in context of Hulkaggedon. Talos excels at one thing - dropping three of them on a badly fit Orca, point blank range.

Tornados are far and away better. If CCP understood just HOW much better they'd probably break out the nerf bat, because they are only hugging carebear nutsak these days. Most Torandos don't get used to the most of their capabilities yet, and STILL outsell the Talos by a huge margin - what 5 to 1?


Fair point. The Tornado DOES get extremely high alpha and single hulks (and most other indy ships) don't stand a chance. The cycle time on 1400's however is stupid long, so if you're going after multiple targets that are ******** enough to stick close together, the Talos does the job QUITE well. Overheated, the blasters get a damage bonus, and since they have a fast cycle time and high alpha to begin with, you can take out 2-3 targets no problem.

For single targets, though, the tornado is better.

I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.
Kali Fin
White SANDS SPACE
#100 - 2012-02-13 17:23:41 UTC
thuzad Kael wrote:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Trader+102
10 macks and a pod with 1 phoon in 0.7 system. sadly i miscalculated and only got 1 pod. useing a disco phoon fit witch takes less then 9 days to train and fit with a fresh minmatar char. total cost of phoon and fit when bought: 75m


TAKE DA MINERS TO DA DISCOOO!

If you have money to burn and are in it for the tears, disco battleships eat mackinaw groups for breakfast, and get thier expensive carebear pod 99% of the time.

I have schemed too long to be supplanted by dead gods. If I cannot have this world, no one can.