EVE General Discussion

I understand your perspective on the ship-type detail, but simply cannot agree with you there. My vision of the mechanic involves inter-communication among militia members/corps concerning plexing activities, while your example is more solo-oriented. You could definitely make the best ship choice with that kind of information as an individual, but I still feel that on larger scales you'd essentially be given the entire composition of the enemy fleet, and that is too much detail. With the level of activity and chaos that we envision, it shouldn't be necessary to be given such fine details. It'll either be reported by player allies, or you'll find out yourself. It feels like a very large leap in information distribution from anything that currently exists, not to mention that it could just as easily be purposely misleading if some of the enemy doesn't enter the plex or waits in the next system. That type of information will always be a player responsibility.

If you are solo'ing, I think you would always want to ship up to the size of plex that has been reported, or the opposite, stick to plexes relative to your current ship-size. In your example, if the enemy has opened a large plex in a small ship, you should be pleased to chase him off in your larger ship and profit from closing the plex... and if he really wants that plex, he'll reship to the right size and come back, resulting in the fight. And if you show up under-powered in a larger plex, it's your own fault.

I have always thought they should implement an arena-style mechanic, but stay true to the EVE universe of course. Like an underground fight-club of EVE, with server-controlled betting on fights, and alliance-tournament type rules and boundaries. That could serve the truly immediate action that is missing, but FW should maintain some of the uncertainties that are natural to an EVE war.

I think the goal should be to move towards MORE quick action, but not abandon some of the higher-level strategy that is still present. There are many possible permutations of plex notifications, and we definitely agree that there should be some form of them.

What I describe would value each and every pilot and value solo skill but it would not be a solo effort. The militia would have to coordinate their forces so that they are sending the proper number of pilots to each system.

The way the militia plexing vent would sound would be something like this:

Your intel channel tells you an enemy entered a plex in dal in a frigate so you ask in vent:

“is anyone going to fight for that plex in Dal?”
Lets say five people respond they are heading there.

Well then if the militia is smart they will communicate that first one into dal should see if they have more ships sitting outside the accel gate. If not then you probably shouldn’t have all 5 go in. So if you have 2 or whatever you would say we have it covered. And the other three should cover other plexes that will be popping up.’

In other words the communications will be to make sure that you are not over shipping plexes. The side that gets plexxes with the minimum amount of pilots will win.

Vent for plexing may end up being divided into different regions. So for the amarr militia front there may be a vent for people plexing in and around frerstron, another plexing around dal etc. They would coordinate with eachother in whatever zone and also try to coordinate with the other zones if they aren’t able to cover the plexes.

And yes the intel will only be on who enters the plex not who enters the system.

I agree it would be a very large leap from anything in eve. But that is good. The whole deal where you have alt scouts and fleets and try to bait and blob can be done in many other areas of eve. I say have fw provide something you can’t get elsewhere.

Not only that but spys can often destroy that sort of game. Spies having an effect may be good in other parts of the game but in FW its impossible to control who is in the militia. By providing more intel to more pilots the effect of spies is pretty much eliminated.

I think by giving this sort of intel it opens fw to higher level strategy that currently doesn't exist. Right now the strategy is: Lets get the biggest blob we can and go plodding around ganking ships. Alt scouts are key.

Having a plexing mechanic that gave both sides more intel would mean that they would have more intel they would need to consider when making decisions about which resources (i.e. pilots) should be sent to which systems.

I would be astounded if it DID have FW in it - since FW has nothing to do will 0.0 and vanity items.

Doesn't mean we won't keep the pressure on CCP and keep making noise...

Well thanks for reading. We are mostly in agreement. Even if we didn't know the ship types it would still be a huge step forward.


On every decision about plexing I think that if it promotes frequent, quality, smallscale or solo pvp it is good. If it doesn't its bad. Eve has plenty of slow gank blob pvp.

I think the dev blog will say they are reassigning a bunch of devs back to FIS. Many things will get worked on including but not limitted to FW. At least, if they want to have a big future to define I think that is what they will do.

It might also be the release of dust.

Winter is coming...

If anyone was holding their breath waiting, they long ago turned blue an quit (or are just waiting and passing time as best as they can in a perpetual holding pattern above 'completion')

I'm trying to make sure all those interested in discussing FW see this... I'll just copy what I said in another thread that was even lengthier than this one:

Im kinda curious now if theyre all sorry for everything if theyre going to start giving FW love