Science & Industry

I highly doubt you have read any invention guides if you are asking those questions.

1. T2 bpo's make more isk than bpc's.
2. Yes, you use t1 bpc's + skills/datacores/decryptors to get t2 bpcs
3. Selling t2 bpc's is usually not profitable
4. To get a bpc from a bpo.. find a pos lab or a station with copy slots.. and run a copying job. Depending on what your inventing, the number of runs in the copy will matter

Try reading a guide on invention, it will explain how the procedure works. Oh look, the evewiki has useful information about the game. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Invention

T2 bpo's never make as much money as you think they do, especially for the percieved ISK value of the BPO

the ROI must on them must be abysmal

basically, if you dont own a T2 BPO, try to forget they exist

and yet, Krystal ... not every T2 item has a BPO.

so ... yeah... :|

you are incredibly simple

Most of this post is wrong/outdated. Prior to invention T2 BPOs had extremely good returns. Only five or so BPOs are know to have been directly spawned by a dev. That said, in at least one instance a Band of Brothers leader indicated publically that the lotto system had been rigged in favor of members of the large alliances. Once CCP server admin eventually left the company under questionable circumstances. It is unclear what the reasons were.

After the BPO spawning scandal CCP created their internal affairs department. This is one reason that very few CCP employes PVP or even play the game, the very real fear that they might loose their job because of it.

In short, everything relating to T2 has been one huge black eye for CCP from start to finish. I suspect it will remain so until we see an end to the current system of moon goo and some way to acquire T2 BPOs from in game activity.

Out of interest is this a fact or something you heard someone else say who in turn heard it from their dog etc etc?

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If that's all the evidence there is I think statements like the first one is a little lame.

See that caveat up there. Right after "makes more money" and right before "than a T2 BPO?" Yeah, all the words tend to be important when you try to divine the meaning of someone else's statement.

If you have 10 BPOs, you could sell them, buy toons and expand to way more than 10 invention mfg slots.

If you have 1 and 9, the 9 will almost certainly make you more profit, especially since you have a less profitable T2 BPO than the guy without the extra capital to use to invent.

The profitability of T1 BPOs isn't relavent to this discussion, as we're comparing T2 BPOs and Invention.

T2 BPO is the reflection of how corrupt CCP are and how they will never take any responsibility for their bad decissions. EVE's only chance for growth and development is that it is sold or floated and new developer takes over. The only new in game content that CCP will develop are Farmville style cash milking schemes. Ie AUR, skill points for isk, brain dead Incursions and other rubbish based around CARBON to milk every last dollar out of this dying game.

If CCP still won't remove TECH II BPO after giving them to select players, in select corps why would you expect them to do anything else to fix the game. Due to tech II BPO invention is pointless except for a few items where you can compete against the TECH II BPO, it does not exist , can't keep up with demeand or has been destroyed. The majority of items are still a no go area for invention.

CCP remove Tech II it's unfair that it remains in game and it is a legacy of how corrupt a company you are. While your at it stop telling noobs they are not allowed to run bots when you know it is perfectly acceptable activity that you do not enforce to any great length.

had to chuckle as well.

It's difficult to be certain what they meant without seeing the original statement in context, but it's most likely they are simply saying that T2 production is more profitable than T1 production. This is largely true, although there are a significant number of exceptions.


Probably, yes. That is the most common way to produce T2 items and if you want to get into T2 industry that is where you generally start out. Having a good read through a number of different guides should give you all the information you need on this subject.


Probably not. The market for T2 BPCs isn't great.

A large proportion of the T2 BPCs available on the contracts market are loss making ones, where either the item is not profitable at all or where the inventor used the wrong decryptor in their invention so the resulting BPC requires an excessive amount of materials to produce.

Aside from those, there are a lot of overpriced T2 BPCs which can be used to make a profit, but cost more to buy than to make them yourself. For the average T2 manufacturer these have little to no appeal.

It is possible to find good T2 BPCs on the contracts market at sensible prices, but they are generally few in number and it's quite labour intensive sifting through all the dross to find the good examples. Ok if you like a bargain hunt, not so good if you just want to get on with making things.


To make a BPC from a BPO you copy it. You can do this at some NPC stations (although there are often long queues), or by using a POS (these are complicated and best left until you know your way around a bit), or you can pay someone else to do it (probably a good idea at first). Any good invention guide should cover this subject.

Once you have a T1 BPC, you can invent with that to have a chance of getting a T2 BPC.