EVE General Discussion

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thus unfairly penalizing

cmon son.

Killboards just provide information and it's up to each individual to interpret data.

The problem is that most people seem to thing that 8000 kills with 80 losses and each of those kills having 100 people on them and consist of POS modules is 'good'.

Depends on what a recruiter is looking for probably - if I recruit for a nullblob alliance for killmail-mining, the above pilot looks good - he shows activity, most likely has the SP to bring what is needed and knows how to follow orders.

If I look for a competent PvP pilot, I'd go for lots of losses and lots of smallacale fights and check their fits.

Eve-kill provides statistics you'd look for when recruiting for the former whilst BC ratings favour the latter (with a strong bias for socioptahic ego-whores you can't really use in a corp).

Reminds me of a thread I followed where some pathetic noob told one of the best non-lame Eve solo-pilots (i.e. not some pathetic arsewhipe with a boosting alt and whatnot) he was terrible because his K/D ratio wasn't as good as his own.

The data is there - people with a clue will know what they mean, others wont, but then who cares about the others?

While I agree with the original poster that the current EDK efficiency is not a very clear stat, I have to remind that same poster and his supporters that EDK is a third party app and if you do not like any of its functions you are more then free to create your very own killboard software.

Personally I see all the problems with the efficiency calculation but there is little to no solutions with the current KM system. If EDK changed the isk kill calculation, from awarding the full sum of the ship cost to each involved killing party, to awarding the isk based on the percentage of the damage done, then we run into issues where support ships like rapiers, lachs and logis get nothing for their efforts.

Please point out the part where I say 'tough things'. It's all about data and how to interpret it.

Anyway - feel free to apply to my corp any day - I have a director position for you - you perfectly qualify.

I have now edited my corp killboard to award 1million points uniformly for all kills whether or not they are shuttles blobbed by 200 titans or just a solo ibis kill.

It is correct that using the current KB efficiency formula is a bad metric to use for the reasons stated. And yes, it does encourage the current and pervasive KM whoring culture that is found from the biggest nullsec corp to the noobiest hisec pvp corp.

However, intelligent individuals will know how to assess the combat competency of a pilot based by looking deeper at his KB. Good pvp corps and their recruiters will know pretty easily if you are whoring or have actual skills. They'll know if you're a sheeple who will blob or a brave pilot who will fight outnumbered.

Many fool themselves into thinking their l33t when they're not. And others will know how good they really are regardless of what their KB shows.

Never kid a kidder.

People care about killboard stats?

lol

Fair enough. How about just adding a new stat to EDK? Solo ISK Destroyed. This stat will be calculated from all the killmails where the player was the solo killer. Should be a good start, then you can start adding logic to the mod, stuff like if the player and NPCs were on the Killmail or if a 3rd party bubble was involved. Then you can take the mod logic even further, EDK allows registered users, maybe tie your mod in with that allow players to have a "SOLO" campaign where they can define which kills and losses came from their solo roams. Using this campaign data you can then have a lot more stats available for SOLO roamers.