EVE General Discussion

Shazzam Vokanavom, you seem to state yourself that eve shouldn't cater to the lowest common denominator. Who do you think is the victim in almost all gank cases? The lazy, ignorant people. Is that who you're defending?

Also, I see these claims how it's all too easy. Have you ever tried hunting a real gank target to profit from? Or are you passing off opinions as facts in the same post where you accuse other of being biased.

As a high sec pirate, when I can be bothered, I can tell you with absolute certainty from personal experience, for every person ganked there are hundreds that pass me by because they are taking precautionary measures like being tanked, using cloaky haulers, perfect balance of cargo value for ship making it not worth ganking and so on and so on. Then there are the shanked ganks, the terrible drops.

Please don't spout off your opinions as if they are common knowledge facts.

I believe my post was civilised enough. This uninformed whining about suicide ganks annoys me to no end, because I fear someone who matters at CCP may start believing it.

On the flip side, I have transported, 100s of billions, probably even more, accross high sec over the years without a single incident. Surely with all this super easy ganking out there, the law of probabilities would demand that I'd have been ganked already, multiple times.

I laughed. Well really I chuckled. Out loud.

7/10 for well delivered and undoubtedly unintended irony.

What part of a sentence "I don't live in high sec" you missed? And I don't ask for advise. I asked for discussion which seems to be going well. So either give ideas or base your argumentson something more then "no because I say no."

I don't have to be a ganker to understand. The balance books on these things seem pretty obvious looks kind of profitable from someone elses perspective above. Some ganks fail, some ganks profit. If you have all the figures to demonstrate your view then I might also agree with you 100% as to the effective levels you want to claim also.

But really this is what I want to know, some suicide ganks fail, most don't on the assest level. Or else why do it? If we are led to beleive from the stats above suicide gankers have it nice a cushy with the plex an afternoon process.

I could agree that suicide ganking may not be a prevelant issue for most though.

Still from the examples above what I want to see is the relative simplicity of "actual" ganking events, all the other "ganker not bothered" targets don't really interest me. They really weren't any risk to you either where they?

If we could get an accurate picture of "net" gains it might help.

Still trollin as usual Baltec? Well, everyone gets fun in their own field.

What really surprised me though is that a lot of ppl assumed I'm a carebear just because I put up a topic on ppl that left this game thanks to flips and ganks. How the hell that makes me a carebear in their minds I fail to understand.

Dude, anyone who quickly glances at your lossmails and notices the sheer stupidity of your fits KNOWS you're a carebear. Blaming others for one's own lack of knowledge&effort is the very definition of a carebear.

Dude, FYI I'm not putting kills on battleclinic unless asked for km. Not my style, it's childish to use that thing and gives out info on what you fly to kill. Surprise worth more then km.

Yes because none of the 70 million people you killed in this game have a KB of their own, I'm sure. How is it childish to use facts? Your fits are all idiotic which means that your knowledge on EVE close to 0. I like the troll thingy reply, because that's about the best thing you can try.

Lets keep this real: you're clueless about EVE, on several fronts.

Is it not better that a new player learns early on when they have less to lose?


It does not matter how many ships are ganking that's fairly irrelevant. You can't say it has to be one on one for example as that would be too artifical.

If their cargo is worth ganking for then they have played long enough to get the skills to tank an iteron V.

If not, Badger, 14k EHP and 2x t2 warp core stabs, trainable in a matter of weeks.