EVE General Discussion

So, CCP wants to bring in more players in but on the other side does everything possible to keep them out.

Just a short story:

A relatively new player with a few months in EVE with not a bad ship and few totally fresh players all in High sec. A can flipper shows up and starts flying around bumping the newbies (5th or 7th flipper for the day for them). The one with not bad ship comes in so flipper warps out. Newbie picks up ore from the can (stupid move but hey, its a newbie and he have tons of things to learn so he forgets some) and moments later a nice fleet of can flipper with a much better ship and friends arrive. Of course all get owned. And all quit the game because they are sick and tired of can flippers, gankers and other sh*t.

CCP you want more players? Well may be instead of spending tons of money on useless advertisements you think about changing some mechanics of your own game so that people wont quit because your mechanics so flawed for new players and allow the exploits by some terribly bored vets who sit in their Titans and create alts out of boredom to go get their kicks on new players and then complain that there's not enough influx of players in the game.

I do understand an attempt to push players to other then High sectors. But with recent "buff to gankers" strategy all you do is pushing them out of the game.

Don't use jet cans for mining?

Just a heads up here for the unaware. Bored Vets couldn't care less whether new players start playing EVE; in fact, best I can tell, most of them would rather they didn't. This is why people who 'carebear' or come and 'whine' on the forums get told to gtfo and go play WoW. I should have thought that was obvious.

edit: ..not suggesting i'm one who feels that way. Quite the opposite really, but I can't be bothered to argue with those that do.

Mayhaps they should try a less busy system. Let me guess, they were mining in Perimiter ???????????

No hassle for them if they moved to Amarr while noob.

And what kind of game players are they anyway ? Running at what seems like their only signs of trouble ?

When that happened to me in my Noob area (Fricoure/Brapelille/Dodixie) I was only MORE determined to outwit them once I figured out what was going on, which led to me eventually GANKING the ones who stole/flipped me.

They are better off gone. Much worse happens in EVE, but.....that's life in EVE. It ain't for everyone. Good thing they are gone, as they would probably want CONCORD protection next with their Low Sec PI or something.

It's not the point of the post where they are in High sec. The point of the post is simple. Can flippers and gankers in High sec are bad for the game. They make people leave more effectively then anything else in the game.

Welp, I'M STILL HERE. Sheesh. Maybe affects 5% of noobs...........

Maybe America is the only place with 'Freshman Hazing". That's all it is. And one does NOT quit school because of 'hazing'.

No backbone whatsoever.

And looking for sympathy on these Forums is a Fool's Errand.

Would you please stop editing your posts several times after you posted them? Thanks.

EVE is a game. People come to play. Not to work. Not to get angry at something or be bothered too much. For that they have life. Real life.

If they log in and get anger, bothered and no fun, they leave. As simple as that. No use for any backbones whatsoever here. Its a game.

I don't see a problem with flippers... maybe thats because I learned the first time it happened not to shoot/take from the can.


And for the record, when I was a noob I didn't jetcan mine after the first incident... I flew back and forth in my little frigate. Aptly named the Tormentor.

You mean the insurance nerf?

OP failed to realise (we all did in the beginning, guess what; we're still here) that EVE is a harsh PVP environment which manifests itself in many different ways. If you had several can flippers on the same day don't you think said newbies should THINK about what they're doing and what they should be doing differently? It's not very difficult to ask in rookie/help chat what can be done about it, LEARN what can be done about is and create some teamwork.

In other words, learn from it, deal with it and if you don't or can't adapt, get out.