Science & Industry

This should be fixed now. Let me know if it still comes up.

Also I added some better error checking to the CREST updates so it won't crash when CCP has server issues.

Finally, the industry flip belts was crashing with an issue dealing with the refinery settings. This is fixed. Delete your settings file if you have an issue with this.

Still working on the asset update error above.

Heya Zifrian;

First off, mad props for making such a great tool for eve industry. It really makes life easier in planning and executing production runs.


I would like help with a problem if I may.

Either by a bug, or misuse I continually find myself short on components for T2 manufacturing when I get to my last unit. I generally enter into the program how many runs I want to do, then the amount of blueprints I intend to use.

The problem is its making a rounding error somewhere or treating the material requirement calculation based on one large run. If I'm building say 16 Ishtars, that might be using 8 blueprints at ME4 TE14. The program might be assuming that its one huge run, so with the ME4 and 2% POS material reductions it might use less components if I was able to make 16 ishtars at the same run. However since I can only make batches of 2 at a time, I might find myself short components when I get to the last one.

I generally use the program to plan the run, then add it to a shopping list. I use the shopping list to buy the materials, and track my manufacturing progress.

Is there perhaps another way to use the program to accurately get a component count, or is it an error in the software?

Thanks!

i got a little question for you:


you have a nice little "update complete" window. but i need to click OK to make the program start. why ?

and here's a litte problem:

i can't seem to get SVR values for a bunch of items. any idea why ? the field remains empty, even though quite a few of the item are sold daily.

a couple of examples:

Compression Array
Moon Harvesting Array
Energy Neutralizing Battery
Talwar
Bellicose
Cormorant
Small Anti-Thermic Pump
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump

This is the first time ive downloaded and used this application, there are so many options its a bit confusing, is there any tutorials on initial set up and setting up a job,

for example

• under blueprints, is it possible to transfer the items to the manufacturing list.
• In the manufacturing list how can I get the materials for multiple BPCs (say for example I have 20 BPCs for Mag Stab II how can i determine the materials i need for all 20)
• Can I view the shoppping list in the in game browser which adds links to all the thing I need to buy
• Under blueprints, if I have a T2 BPC shown there an alter the ME value the materials needed doesnt alter either no matter what ME value I put

regards

N

1 - OK, ill try that
2 - so the total runs section is not the total runs per BPC, but more the total runs that I have, so if i had33 BPCs total runs would be 330, BPs would be 33, and what are lines for, is that the number of manufacture slots I use
3 - shame that :)
4 - I did hit the refresh button but it doesnt chnage the values under component material list or raw material list

EDIT - on point 4, yes the number alters now, I think it was the fact I was putting 10 under total runs (thinking it was runs per BPC that went in there)

I think you want to uncheck the manufacturing items in the update prices, select Amarr and then import prices. Then uncheck the raw materials and check the manufacturing items. Select Domain and import those prices.

The pricing is based off of eve central so it won't be exact but as close as it can based on the last set of updates. You can manually enter the prices in the grid as well.

In the end though, whatever price is in the update prices grid is what I use for determining prices in the calculations.

On #2 above, "Total Runs" has always been subject to confusion. Maybe it's the "Total items" but that's also somewhat confusing. Basically, if you want to make 150 Hobgoblin II's and you have 15 10 run blueprints with 10 available industry lines, then you would have 150 in total runs, 15 in num bps, and 10 in lines. This will then figure out the time to complete the 150 runs (basically two batches of a 10 run bpc). If you had 2 characters with 20 total industry lines, then you could run it all in the time to run one 10 run bpc.

Hope that makes sense.

I would like to request being able to put in a "number of blueprints" for building the components for an item (e.g. Hybrid Comps for a T3). My usage example is as follows:

Base Case:
400x Metallofullerene Plating (ME 10)

Component Assembly Array:
5998, 2117, 1412, 1412
EVE: http://puu.sh/h9Xgu/73ce457ed3.jpg
IPH: http://puu.sh/h9Xmr/2924524d1b.png

For example, you need 400x M. Plating for 50x Confessor (ME 1) that is built in an Adv. Small Assembly (2%).

Confirming below that the materials are properly decreased between station and POS assembly:
^ Components Built In Station: http://puu.sh/h9XCq/913f25c201.png
^ Components Built In POS: http://puu.sh/h9XHb/b441068969.png

So you can see that the material count decreases (but overall components stays the same) like it should.

However, if you add those to the shopping list and then remove everything except for the plating:
Full Shopping List: http://puu.sh/h9XOl/ebf991ff56.png
Removed All But M. Plating From "Comps to Build": http://puu.sh/h9XRK/817b0df948.png
Removed Misc: http://puu.sh/h9XXf/f2b695eb1c.png

This leaves you with a shopping list of:
6000, 2150, 1450, 1450

Which doesn't match the numbers at the top of the post.

What it actually seems to match is...if you built all of the plating in singles runs...so 400x manufacturing tasks.
400x Plating Runs: http://puu.sh/h9Y6e/9bf078c891.png

Right now, you can set the # of blueprints for the final product which is nice (so you can see the savings between building 5x1 Confessor vs 1x5 Confessor). However you can't do that with the components (unless you do it manually and add each individual component to your shopping list as opposed to just the # of ships).

So instead of overbuilding components for the final product (since you can explicitly set the BP count on your final product) you end up overbuying the materials to build the components since it assume you are going submit 950 individual component build jobs.

Here are the material lists for when I manually add all of the components for 50x single-run ME 1 Confessors vs. batch add:
Batch Added via Adding 50x Confessor (same picture from above) (Full POS): http://puu.sh/h9XOl/ebf991ff56.png
Manually Added Comps (Full POS Single-Run MAX Savings): http://puu.sh/h9YLH/ad3711042b.png

So you can see how manually adding the components works and properly shows mass build savings/properly updates the raw material list.

Also, when you double click the "Num BPs" column in the shopping list window, IPH crashes:
http://puu.sh/h9YXP/246b06870a.png

And finally, there seems to also be a problem when using the copy and paste assets function.

If you only paste a single asset, it doesn't update anything.

Original Shopping List: http://puu.sh/h9ZGn/97c541e4cd.png
Paste (Note the cursor at the end of the line): http://puu.sh/ha06f/93163d5926.png
Post-Paste Shopping List: http://puu.sh/ha08x/37f1275b0c.png

You need to paste the asset and then manually add a newline at the end (so 1 line + blank line).

i have updated everything pos related with evemon running in the background. that way, the prices should be in the system, right ?

i now have a price for compression arrays and moon harvesting arrays, but the SVR values for other items in the same category are gone now (Caldari Control Tower Medium, Reprocessing Array, Small Railgun Battery) eve-central has prices from 10-20 minutes ago that were probably uploaded by me.

are you sure there is no other explanation ?

How to interpret what this screen is showing?

It seems like it supposed to filter on owned BPs but it seems that it is not filtered.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/KenFlorian/Eve/IskPerHour-01.png

The "Include T2" check box next to the radio options allows the T2 items you can invent with your owned T1 BPOs. Those T2 items are highlighted with a blue background. Uncheck the box to only show owned BPOs.


This disables ME/TE updates when manually updating the BPs with the options in that section and hitting 'Update Selected'.