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EVE IPH Industry Calculator Version 3.3 - Now with Live Market data!

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1821 - 2015-03-14 01:06:09 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
The new Sleeper Cache exploration sites contain some 'storyline' blueprints such as 'Palisade' Cap Recarger and 'Joust' Heavy Pulse Laser. They show up on your website Market History but I don't find them inside IPH.


p.s. On your fuzzwork website and Eveblogger website I think you should display your name prominently in the red box for those players who don't know you.

I'll have to look at those specifically, it might be a simple fix to add. See if the new DB update didn't fix the issue. Also, I'm not Fuzzwork Blink

Impala59 wrote:
Hi there!

This tool happens to fill a void I'm looking at and running into an issue with, but it appears to be non-working. I've added all my API keys, including a full corp API for good measure, but it doesn't appear to be able to pick up the number of jobs running per-character for some reason. It also doesn't appear to be iterating over the available assets. Is there a debug log or something like that I could check into? I'm particularly looking to see how many research/production jobs are in per-character, it's getting difficult to track at the 20+ char mark.

Thanks!

The new industry jobs was added a few months ago. I'm not sure what you are describing. Post a screenshot if you can. On the assets, it only reads from the assets of the loaded character or the corporation of that character. Let me know if you are thinking something else.

SJ Astralana wrote:
Suggestion: Manufacturing List, Add Sort By option: Profit * Average Sold Daily. SVR isn't useful as it has some notion of how many can be built in a day which isn't at all relevant. Next, create a threshold for IPH.

Bottom line is, the amount of profit available for any item is simply its volume * margin. IPH works as a threshold, but beyond that it has little relevance in terms of which blueprints to buy, because a 1mil/hr high volume item will easily outperform a 10mil/hr no volume item.8,600.

I'll add this to the list to look at.

Donkey Haute wrote:
Sorry if this has already been answered, but on the 'Manufacturing List' tab, where does it get the list of regions under 'Location' ('Base' tab)? For Station and Outpost it's a very small list that doesn't seem to have anything to do with where I have assets, and I'd much rather have a complete list to choose from.

Let me know if you still have this issue with the update to the DB that should fix the regions and systems issues.

Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Probably a bug.

When You have like 3 BP and 3 lines it will count materials like for 1 line and 1 bpo - like if You have 3 x Capital Capacitor Control Circuit I Blueprint - with 3 lines it will show you need 999 x Melted Capacitor Console for 10 runs (one 999). But if You want to actually use 3 BP with 3 lines it will require 1000 (300/300/400).

Should be fixed now, let me know if you still get weird results.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1822 - 2015-03-14 01:11:25 UTC
Zanquis wrote:
I have been using this program for a while now, and its great. Though I have a few questions if anybody could please assist.

First Question
When I am planning a production run in the "blueprints" tab, there is a Lines and BPs area where total runs is filled in. I have been producing moderate sized runs of T2 ships. However I have noticed that when I buy what is on the planned production run shopping list, I find myself short in the last ship.

I'm pretty sure this has to do with rounding errors, because it would work if I had done say 20 T2 ships in that one run. However generally those would be split up in smaller groups do to the max runs of invented bpc's.

In one instance I did 8 T2 ships of one type. I had 4 blueprints with two runs each, ME 4 TE14. So when I placed them into IPH I would say Lines=4 and BPs=4. This didn't seem to adjust anything except for the total production time. The shopping list for components remained the same, and I keep having to add a smidgen more to complete the last run because each component would be off by a relatively small quantity.

So that concerns me because it would mean the costs are not calculated correctly in the way I put it in. I know it's still profitable because I account for it and a potential drop in sell price when I plan my runs. However it would be helpful if my operation ran smoother and I didn't have to fix the last run all the time by producing more components or keeping an inventory.

I like to run a lean operation so I can keep as much as my capital re-invested as possible using a JIT system. How can I better use IPH to make it more accurate?

This should be fixed now. Let me know if it doesn't look accurate.

Quote:

Second Question

Is there a place where Price import types are better explained?

I typically use Minimum Sell because I know it works off the current sell orders availability. I already can use my instinct and the market information to determine how much I think the sale price would be. However I'm curious about percentile sell and buy.

Overall I would just like to know more about what each option means, and how the program will use it. I feel I could be making better projections and find new opportunities.

These are the options provided by EVE Central. I'd go there and see if there are any write ups on what prices he provides. I think they are pretty self-explanatory but I'll add the idea of putting tool tips to the list.

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Third Question

How does IPH calculate the profitability of reactions?

For example some reactions require multiple towers. In one case it took two towers, each of which costs on average 700,000 isk per hour for fuel. So I place Hourly POS FUel Cost=700,000 and Number of POS=2. That should give it a sum of 1,400,000 IPH in fuel cost.

Then it lists the reactions, some with say 800,000 IPH. Now from what I can tell, some of those values are incorrect, because it seems the program doesn't compensate for the minimum number of towers needed automatically (thats why you fill it out). So you need to look at the required materials and determine how many POS will be required, then make adjustments to see it's true profitability.

However, I am wondering if the IPH listed uses the number of POS for something other than fuel costs. This would be important because if your using two towers, but have twice the output, that doubles the profitability. If the program is not compensating for the increased output, but does compensate for the costs, you will see the value understated.

Thanks!

Um I wrote this tab about 3 years ago, so I'd have to do some digging. Can you give me an example of what you see and I can track down what is going on?

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1823 - 2015-03-14 01:16:13 UTC
LuckyQuarter wrote:
Been exploring EVE IPH, however I noticed that the manufacturing cost it gave me for one max-researched t1 BPO was ~10% than what fuzzworks calculator gave given equivalent skills and using Dodixie for minerals...still attempting to understand the pricing difference.

Please let me know what BP it is and a comparison of what you are seeing on Fuzzworks and I'll track down the difference.

Genevieve Cassat wrote:
Maybe I am missing something, but for some reason it does not list Omson as a selectable manufacturing station in The Forge...?

Edit: And under my assets list it is putting stuff in that system as "Unknown Location"

Should be fixed now with the DB update.

Sakuma Ogunuchi wrote:
Is there a way to filter out skinned ships like the sukuuvestaa heron or Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst and items that only come from BPC drops?

No and this is a common request. It's on the list, I just need to find the time to add it.

Tajic Kaundur wrote:
I recently changed where I manufacture all my stuff, from a station to a POS. However, even though I've set the POS to my new default facility, it keeps switching back to the old station at seemingly random intervals.

How can I delete the old station, or at least make it stop switching back?

Please let me know what tab and where you get this issue. If you can provide a screenshot and specific system info, I can probably figure out what is happening.

Sarah Jaxson wrote:
When I load the program, I get an error that I can not download the update. I have ver.3.1 installed. When i do get the base program running and try to update the market prices, it states I can not connect to the eve central server and get prices.. Any suggestions?

Sounds like you have a connection problem. Are you behind a proxy server? It's not usually that both sites would be down at the same time. Let me know if you figure it out.

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QuietView Shihari
CurseChain Parmala Industry
#1824 - 2015-03-14 08:08:07 UTC
I have a problem about calculating Tornado cost in pos

I choose Facility "Pos" but after calcilating , its always change back to Jita. Why??

https://www.dropbox.com/s/692r2zls82oh9e5/1.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3xcf1ovxjh865b8/2.JPG?dl=0
Tiberius Zol
Moira.
#1825 - 2015-03-14 10:13:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiberius Zol
If I try to calculate in the manufacturing list, i get an unhandled error:

Something with: the arithmetic operation causes an overflow


3/14/2015 11:18:44 AM, System.OverflowException: Die arithmetische Operation hat einen Überlauf verursacht.
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.Blueprint.BuildItems(Boolean SetTaxes, Boolean SetBrokerFees, Boolean SetProductionCosts)
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain.DisplayManufacturingResults(Boolean Calculate)
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain.btnCalculate_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)



https://www.dropbox.com/s/tgszavdvgy795lq/iph%20error.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmcmcl1az1tz7dt/iph%20error%202.png?dl=0

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Wreck It
Whatever Brah
#1826 - 2015-03-14 15:20:43 UTC
Is there a changelog somewhere for the update that was released yesterday?
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1827 - 2015-03-14 17:56:13 UTC
QuietView Shihari wrote:
I have a problem about calculating Tornado cost in pos

I choose Facility "Pos" but after calcilating , its always change back to Jita. Why??

https://www.dropbox.com/s/692r2zls82oh9e5/1.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3xcf1ovxjh865b8/2.JPG?dl=0


You are missing some options there due to your resolution or maybe your fonts, which I'm not sure why they are changing. In any case, you shouldn't have 3 rows of tabs there and you are missing the save box, which allows you to save the POS location. If it's not saved, then I revert to the default.

Let me know if your resolution is (Medium 125% or just normal?) or what your font is that shows up in the screen shot. I'm seeing about fixing it to MS Sans Serif since I set these up very specifically to maximize space and the font is part of that.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1828 - 2015-03-14 21:20:03 UTC
Wreck It wrote:
Is there a changelog somewhere for the update that was released yesterday?

See my post on the previous page, last one.

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Gisele Serebriakova
Norman's Meat Market
#1829 - 2015-03-14 22:18:21 UTC
Has anyone got this working on linux? I'm getting a missing mscorsvw.dll error which doesn't look fixable in that I can't just install the library through winetricks.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1830 - 2015-03-14 22:28:55 UTC
Gisele Serebriakova wrote:
Has anyone got this working on linux? I'm getting a missing mscorsvw.dll error which doesn't look fixable in that I can't just install the library through winetricks.

See if this info helps

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=304055

https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=20514

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1831 - 2015-03-15 01:14:38 UTC
Tiberius Zol wrote:
If I try to calculate in the manufacturing list, i get an unhandled error:

Something with: the arithmetic operation causes an overflow


3/14/2015 11:18:44 AM, System.OverflowException: Die arithmetische Operation hat einen Überlauf verursacht.
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.Blueprint.BuildItems(Boolean SetTaxes, Boolean SetBrokerFees, Boolean SetProductionCosts)
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain.DisplayManufacturingResults(Boolean Calculate)
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain.btnCalculate_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)



https://www.dropbox.com/s/tgszavdvgy795lq/iph%20error.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmcmcl1az1tz7dt/iph%20error%202.png?dl=0

I've tried and tried, but I can't get this error. I'm thinking it has something to do with your BPs maybe. I tried owned T2 and T3 thinking that was it but still won't error. Any help to narrow this down?

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Gisele Serebriakova
Norman's Meat Market
#1832 - 2015-03-15 01:56:41 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Gisele Serebriakova wrote:
Has anyone got this working on linux? I'm getting a missing mscorsvw.dll error which doesn't look fixable in that I can't just install the library through winetricks.

See if this info helps

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=304055

https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=20514


I put up a new 32bit virtual drive using playonlinux and installed only dotnet40. After moving the contents of the zip and running the exe I get the following error;

An Unhandled Exception has occured and EVE Isk per Hour will now close.

Please fill out the following information so I can reproduce the bug - if you just copy and paste this message, that won't be enough!

What is your Operating System?
What tab or screen did the error occur?
What are the steps to reproduce the Error?
Web link to a screenshot of your error:
In addition to a screenshot, copy the data below for sending to developer.

Source: EVE Isk per Hour
Message: An error occurred creating the form. See Exception.InnerException for details. The error is: Could not load file or assembly 'System.EnterpriseServices.Wrapper.dll' or one of its dependencies. Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070002
QuietView Shihari
CurseChain Parmala Industry
#1833 - 2015-03-15 05:45:34 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
QuietView Shihari wrote:
I have a problem about calculating Tornado cost in pos

I choose Facility "Pos" but after calcilating , its always change back to Jita. Why??

https://www.dropbox.com/s/692r2zls82oh9e5/1.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3xcf1ovxjh865b8/2.JPG?dl=0


You are missing some options there due to your resolution or maybe your fonts, which I'm not sure why they are changing. In any case, you shouldn't have 3 rows of tabs there and you are missing the save box, which allows you to save the POS location. If it's not saved, then I revert to the default.

Let me know if your resolution is (Medium 125% or just normal?) or what your font is that shows up in the screen shot. I'm seeing about fixing it to MS Sans Serif since I set these up very specifically to maximize space and the font is part of that.


Here is my sitting

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1gshmuafmhe8pxs/3.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3g4e3v8cr1rs0ab/4.JPG?dl=0

My default font is Microsoft JhengHei.
Tiberius Zol
Moira.
#1834 - 2015-03-15 12:22:20 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Tiberius Zol wrote:
If I try to calculate in the manufacturing list, i get an unhandled error:

Something with: the arithmetic operation causes an overflow


3/14/2015 11:18:44 AM, System.OverflowException: Die arithmetische Operation hat einen Überlauf verursacht.
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.Blueprint.BuildItems(Boolean SetTaxes, Boolean SetBrokerFees, Boolean SetProductionCosts)
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain.DisplayManufacturingResults(Boolean Calculate)
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain.btnCalculate_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)



https://www.dropbox.com/s/tgszavdvgy795lq/iph%20error.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmcmcl1az1tz7dt/iph%20error%202.png?dl=0

I've tried and tried, but I can't get this error. I'm thinking it has something to do with your BPs maybe. I tried owned T2 and T3 thinking that was it but still won't error. Any help to narrow this down?


Seems to be a problem with my Storyline BPCs. If I uncheck The Storyline Checkbox, everything works fine.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1835 - 2015-03-15 14:48:35 UTC
Tiberius Zol wrote:
Zifrian wrote:
Tiberius Zol wrote:
If I try to calculate in the manufacturing list, i get an unhandled error:

Something with: the arithmetic operation causes an overflow


3/14/2015 11:18:44 AM, System.OverflowException: Die arithmetische Operation hat einen Überlauf verursacht.
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.Blueprint.BuildItems(Boolean SetTaxes, Boolean SetBrokerFees, Boolean SetProductionCosts)
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain.DisplayManufacturingResults(Boolean Calculate)
   bei EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain.btnCalculate_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)



https://www.dropbox.com/s/tgszavdvgy795lq/iph%20error.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmcmcl1az1tz7dt/iph%20error%202.png?dl=0

I've tried and tried, but I can't get this error. I'm thinking it has something to do with your BPs maybe. I tried owned T2 and T3 thinking that was it but still won't error. Any help to narrow this down?


Seems to be a problem with my Storyline BPCs. If I uncheck The Storyline Checkbox, everything works fine.

Great, thanks. Can you evemail me a list of your storyline BPs? Just the export text from the manage bp option would work.

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Svetlana Iratschka
Willi Vin Trading and Manufacturing Company
#1836 - 2015-03-15 15:52:29 UTC
Hello,

I recently downloaded and installed Isk per Hour 3.1 and now wants do update the prices. Unfortunately the Prices can't be updated from Eve Central. Everytime the following message appears (it is partly in German so I try to translate it):

"EVE Central Server is unvailable. The remote Server gives back an error: (500) Internal server error.
Please try again later."

Eve Central seems to be availaible if I enter the Website.

Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong or what I have to do?

Thank you :)
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1837 - 2015-03-15 16:04:50 UTC
Svetlana Iratschka wrote:
Hello,

I recently downloaded and installed Isk per Hour 3.1 and now wants do update the prices. Unfortunately the Prices can't be updated from Eve Central. Everytime the following message appears (it is partly in German so I try to translate it):

"EVE Central Server is unvailable. The remote Server gives back an error: (500) Internal server error.
Please try again later."

Eve Central seems to be availaible if I enter the Website.

Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong or what I have to do?

Thank you :)

I just ran the update and it worked fine, so it might be localized. If the website is up, that's different than the api server that I use. See if you can open this link and see data or if you get the 500 error.

http://api.eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34&typeid=35&regionlimit=10000002&regionlimit=10000003

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Tajic Kaundur
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#1838 - 2015-03-16 22:30:39 UTC
Zifrian wrote:

Tajic Kaundur wrote:
I recently changed where I manufacture all my stuff, from a station to a POS. However, even though I've set the POS to my new default facility, it keeps switching back to the old station at seemingly random intervals.

How can I delete the old station, or at least make it stop switching back?

Please let me know what tab and where you get this issue. If you can provide a screenshot and specific system info, I can probably figure out what is happening.


I installed the latest update and it seems to have stopped happening.

I dunno what changed, but I guess you fixed it unintentionally.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1839 - 2015-03-16 22:35:47 UTC
Tajic Kaundur wrote:
Zifrian wrote:

Tajic Kaundur wrote:
I recently changed where I manufacture all my stuff, from a station to a POS. However, even though I've set the POS to my new default facility, it keeps switching back to the old station at seemingly random intervals.

How can I delete the old station, or at least make it stop switching back?

Please let me know what tab and where you get this issue. If you can provide a screenshot and specific system info, I can probably figure out what is happening.


I installed the latest update and it seems to have stopped happening.

I dunno what changed, but I guess you fixed it unintentionally.

Lol that'd be a first. Let me know if it happens again and how to reproduce it. This sounds similar to an older issue I fixed. The facility stuff is complicated so I want to get it right.

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Svetlana Iratschka
Willi Vin Trading and Manufacturing Company
#1840 - 2015-03-17 07:18:29 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Svetlana Iratschka wrote:
Hello,

I recently downloaded and installed Isk per Hour 3.1 and now wants do update the prices. Unfortunately the Prices can't be updated from Eve Central. Everytime the following message appears (it is partly in German so I try to translate it):

"EVE Central Server is unvailable. The remote Server gives back an error: (500) Internal server error.
Please try again later."

Eve Central seems to be availaible if I enter the Website.

Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong or what I have to do?

Thank you :)

I just ran the update and it worked fine, so it might be localized. If the website is up, that's different than the api server that I use. See if you can open this link and see data or if you get the 500 error.

http://api.eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34&typeid=35&regionlimit=10000002&regionlimit=10000003



Today I installed the program update, and now I get all the Prices. Thank you very much! :)

But one thing makes me a little bit nervous. If I enter text in the field "selected blueprint" my firewall tells me that Isk per Hour tries to monitor my user activities. With other third party programs (like EveHQ) this doesn't happen.