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Afk mining what's the beef?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#61 - 2012-01-29 21:46:41 UTC
Weiland Taur wrote:
Overall I agree with the mechanics as they stand though I think the retriever is sort of a pinata in space. And yes, most miners do a **** job of tanking their ships. I guess that extra m3 is worth the cost of the ship.


The retriever can tank a brutix (or used to before the changes)
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#62 - 2012-01-29 22:01:44 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
I thought all of EVE Online was AFK, EVE=AFK gameplay at its finest. 90% of my time in PVP I am pretty much AFK

Most of the time I am not even turning on the game, yet I play.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#63 - 2012-01-29 22:59:48 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Wait, what? You think we have to be ordered on every gatecamp or frigate roam.


Yes I do, as a matter of fact.

I think that in general the little bees are just that stupid. Your job is to suffer for the greater good (read: Mittens). When little bees start to think for themselves, they are no longer little bees and become a liability to those who rule the hive ( again: Mittens).

Mr Epeen Cool
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-01-29 23:01:58 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Wait, what? You think we have to be ordered on every gatecamp or frigate roam.


Yes I do, as a matter of fact.

I think that in general the little bees are just that stupid. Your job is to suffer for the greater good (read: Mittens). When little bees start to think for themselves, they are no longer little bees and become a liability to those who rule the hive ( again: Mittens).

Mr Epeen Cool


Does that mean that Mittens is the Queen bee? Drag Queen perhaps, he does like to "drone" on after all about himself. P
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#65 - 2012-01-29 23:19:43 UTC
Lot of nobodys jelly at someone elses E fame derailing the thread o'clock.
Umega
Solis Mensa
#66 - 2012-01-30 00:02:15 UTC
Don't fit faction mods. Ever.

Fit a DCU. Always.

The harder to kill and less valuable you are, the more likely some will find a different target that is easier and more profitable.

Expand local window and set a standing to known ganking groups. Set local to 'show compact list'. Now you just have to take a quick glance to see any potential threats with much more ease and dock up if needed.

Orbit asteriods. Don't simply sit there. Any extra movement and angles, no matter how small.. impact the accuracy AND the strength of hits. A small movement and change in angular can change a gun from performing an excellent shot to a light hit (I honeslty don't remember the dmg multiplier names and their order so excuse me if the degree from excellent to light is too much). Hulks do have a sig radius significantly under that of large arties sig rez (150 vs 400).. use that to your advantage and move. Every little bit can help towards surviving just enough before Concord arrives instead of ship-boom.

If someone tries to talk to you in local. Respond when you notice.. and don't be a **** about it. Some ppl, like me for example.. rather pop a bot than just some afk legit miner. If you're a **** about it tho.. expect more trouble than its worth to act like a **** for 30 seconds.

If/when popped.. oh well, it is part of the game. It is after all just a game. If this rattles your core too much, this simply isn't the game for you. Not saying it doesn't suck.. but revenge or a 'good' attitude is far more respected in this Game, than being a lil ***** about it. If you're going to act like a *****.. you're a *****. Expect to be treated like a *****.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#67 - 2012-01-30 01:24:44 UTC
Being AFK or not doesn't mean anything if the gankers are willing to kill miners blindly.

Let's consider there are several types of gankers:

Type I Ganker - Bot Hunting Ganker
These are the most friendly gankers you will find. They do their homework as they usually try their best to avoid attacking innocent miners. They are also the most economical sort of gankers as they sometimes have limited resources and don't want to waste resources hitting the wrong target. Usually talking to them helps keep you off their sights.

Type II Ganker - Casual Ganker
These people tend to be somewhat lacking in doing their own homework. And if they do, it's usually for the sake of exploiting the weakness of a miner. Sometimes, their intentions are ISK driven (being rewarded for killing miners - Hulkageddon). In other times, they kill their targets for the sake of claiming a belt for their own operations.

Type III Ganker - Career Ganker
They have resources that can sustain their prolonged operations and they don't give a rat's ass as to whether a miner is a bot user or a real player. Their reasons are practically clear: They want the drops you leave behind on your wrecked ship, they want to corner or manipulate the market, or they feel that mining is such a lowly profession that anyone who thrives on mining should be wipped out from the face of New Eden. Reasoning with these people is like an Atheist trying to reason with a Televangelist. Not gonna work. At. All.

Adapt or Die

Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#68 - 2012-01-30 01:32:51 UTC
I don't hate AFK mines, but there fools to do it. I don't have to respect them for not playing.
Its dose make me sad that they give good hard playing low-sec/WH minners a bad rap.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#69 - 2012-01-30 01:59:06 UTC
2005 character still mining? Did I miss something?
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#70 - 2012-01-30 02:18:30 UTC
Maxious wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
But OP surely has a point. The question is: with an activity as tedious as mining, how could you NOT be afk while doing it?
Survival tip: if you only mine in cheap t1 barges, suicide ganking becomes uneconomical and you will most likely be left alone.


Yea point noted. Been thinking about going back to converter


Yeah, try mining with four hulks and an orca and tell me you can go AFK.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.

Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2012-01-30 02:59:55 UTC
Andski wrote:
CONCORD provides consequences for aggressors, not protection from them.

yeap
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-01-30 03:03:15 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
Being AFK or not doesn't mean anything if the gankers are willing to kill miners blindly.

Let's consider there are several types of gankers:

Type I Ganker - Bot Hunting Ganker
These are the most friendly gankers you will find. They do their homework as they usually try their best to avoid attacking innocent miners. They are also the most economical sort of gankers as they sometimes have limited resources and don't want to waste resources hitting the wrong target. Usually talking to them helps keep you off their sights.

Type II Ganker - Casual Ganker
These people tend to be somewhat lacking in doing their own homework. And if they do, it's usually for the sake of exploiting the weakness of a miner. Sometimes, their intentions are ISK driven (being rewarded for killing miners - Hulkageddon). In other times, they kill their targets for the sake of claiming a belt for their own operations.

Type III Ganker - Career Ganker
They have resources that can sustain their prolonged operations and they don't give a rat's ass as to whether a miner is a bot user or a real player. Their reasons are practically clear: They want the drops you leave behind on your wrecked ship, they want to corner or manipulate the market, or they feel that mining is such a lowly profession that anyone who thrives on mining should be wipped out from the face of New Eden. Reasoning with these people is like an Atheist trying to reason with a Televangelist. Not gonna work. At. All.

You forgot Dread Pirates

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Neoexecutor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2012-01-30 03:04:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Neoexecutor
http://www.internetslang.com/AFK-meaning-definition.asp

OP, what you are talking about in your original post is not what you claim it to be, thus making your question about subject in question pretty much invalid. We cannot answer you correctly and to your liking when you ask "hey guys, WTF is wrong with earth being square???!!".