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A Holistic Model for Our Changing Universe

Author
Soriddo Suneku
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-29 04:01:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Soriddo Suneku
Note
This research is not final. That is why I am sharing this model of change and the resources that I used in order to construct this model. Please provide constructive criticism and do not feel obligated in modifying this model. I also invite questions. Questions are necessary in order to arrive at a better understanding for not only myself but for everyone as well.

Assumption: everything is a sum of the previous two.

Concepts
First, I present the basis for my model. The process of change is certain. The process of change is cyclic and self-sustaining. Cyclic processes have no beginning or end. There are only transitions. The universe is the totality of everything that exists. This includes all matter and energy, the planets, stars, galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space. The Universe uses evolution to change. Consciousness is a term that refers to the relationship between the mind and the world with which it interacts. The mind is constituted by conscious experience and intelligent thought.

The Model
The Universe expresses its maximum self through the evolution of The Consciousness. The Consciousness replicates itself. The copy is the "light-bearer". The Consciousness becomes fully self-conscious through interactions with the "light-bearer". The Consciousness copies itself into a third consciousness, the "helper", to support the second consciousness. The three consciousnesses replicate many copies of themselves. The "helper" and its replicated consciousness leave the elusive zone of light and enter the zone of dark, the void.

The "helper" creates matter, possibly through “quantum fluctuation”. The “Big Bang” occurs. The “Big Bang” within The Universe expresses its maximum self through the evolution of subatomic particles. Subatomic particles express themselves by forming the Atom. The Atom forms a copy. The copy is hydrogen. The Atom becomes fully self-conscious through interactions with hydrogen. The Atom copies itself into a third consciousness, the stars, to support hydrogen. The three elements replicate themselves. Star leaves the zone of light into the dark, the void.

The stars create planets, through the collapse of a nebula into a thin disk of gas and dust. The planets express their maximum self through the evolution of water molecules. Water molecules express themselves by forming gaseous water. Gaseous water copies itself. The copy is liquid water. Gaseous water becomes fully self-conscious through interactions with liquid water. The gaseous water copies itself into a third consciousness, solid water. The three forms of matter replicate themselves. Solid water leaves the zone of light into the dark, the void.

The solid water creates the cell. The cell expresses their maximum self through the evolution of the living organism. The living organism expresses itself by forming the plant. The plant copies itself. The copy is the invertebrate animal. The plant becomes fully self-conscious through interaction with the invertebrate animal. The plant copies itself into a third consciousness, the vertebrate animal. The three forms of matter replicate themselves. Vertebrate animal leaves the zone of light into the dark, the void.

The vertebrate animal creates the mammal. The mammal expresses their maximum self through the evolution of language. The language expresses itself by forming the hominid. The hominid copies itself. The copy is kin. The hominid becomes fully self-conscious through interaction with kin. The hominid copies itself into a third consciousness, culture. The three forms of humanity replicate themselves. Culture leaves the zone of light into the dark, the void.

The culture creates agriculture. The agriculture expresses their maximum self through the evolution of civilization. The civilization expresses itself by forming the group identity. The group identity copies itself. The copy is group behavior. The group identity becomes fully self-conscious through interaction with group behavior. The group identity copies itself into a third consciousness, a consciousness. The three forms of humanity replicate themselves. A consciousness leaves the zone of light into the dark, the void.

A consciousness replicates itself. The copy is a "light-bearer". A consciousness becomes fully self-conscious through interactions with a "light-bearer". A consciousness copies itself into a third consciousness, a "helper", to support the second consciousness. The three consciousnesses replicate many copies of themselves. The "helper" and its replicated consciousness leave the zone of light and enter the zone of dark, the void.

The "helper" creates matter, possibly through “quantum fluctuation”. A “Big Bang” occurs. A “Big Bang” expresses its maximum self through the evolution of subatomic particles.
Soriddo Suneku
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-29 04:02:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Soriddo Suneku
Formulation of the question

The Fibonacci sequence is applied to this model. The first two numbers in the Fibonacci sequence are 0 and 1, and each subsequent number is the sum of the previous two. For example, “The Consciousness” is the sum of “Existence” and “The Universe”.

0 = Existence
1 = The Universe
1 = The Consciousness
2 = The Light-bearer
3 = The Helper
5 = Subatomic particles
8 = Atom
13 = Hydrogen
21 = Stars
34 = Planets
55 = Water molecules
89 = Gaseous water
144 = Liquid water
233 = Solid water
377 = Cell
610 = Living organism
987 = Plants
1597 = Invertebrate animal
2584 = Vertebrate animal
4181 = Mammal
6765 = Language
10946 = Hominid
17711 = Kin
28657 = Culture
46368 = Agriculture
75025 = Civilization
121393 = Group Identity
196418 = Group behavior
317811 = A Consciousness
514229 = A Light-bearer
832040 = A Helper
1346269 = Subatomic particles

Discussion
This sequence is infinite. The significance of paraclete the prime mover may most likely be that everything is a sum of the previous two. The first two are Existence and The Universe. "The Consciousness" is assumed to be ultimate consciousness and is, therefore, assigned to the "number one" in the Fibonacci sequence. It is assigned to other numbers in the sequence to demonstrate change.

The numbers do not mean anything. They only provide reference points such as a timeline, but make no mistake, the numbers are not dates. The starting point serves as the start. It is assumed that change will follow a rhythm, but each component in the model is essentially the same component it was before, however, in another state i.e. hominids from before essentially fit the same classification scheme of hominids from before but with a different language.

This has nothing to do with the numbers. The numbers only serve to help conceptualize and understand the written model. 0 is simply a starting point. It means nothing more, and 144 doesn't have any significance. It is a tentative reference point. Each attribute is assigned to a specific number because each attribute is a product of change, or a sum of the previous two attributes. These components of nature certainly change and demonstrate motion. The Fibonacci sequence is a model demonstrating change. The numbers most likely do not mean anything.

The cyclic nature of the whole process shows repetition of each component i.e. conscious level, molecular level, cosmic level, cellular level, lithosphere level, biosphere level, and sociosphere level. Each of these components reoccur, but they occur in different states. The Fibonacci sequence demonstrates the order of where these components must occur. The variables demonstrate that each component in the cyclic model is different from its previous component, but they essentially fit the same classification i.e. hominids are still hominids but with a different language.

The process of change is certain because everything changes into different forms of energy and matter. Change is motion and that keeps the ground that we walk on, changing, whether that be through plate tectonics or forces weathering material away into tiny granular matter.

Evolution is a process of change, and there is no end to this process even though I did end the Fibonacci sequence in textual form. Writing out the whole Fibonacci sequence would take forever because there would be no end. My body would expire before I even came close to finishing the sequence.

When one asks, what is the same and what has changed; it is important to recognize that the components replicate themselves. In other words they are copies, but they are not the exact same component. With that said, the consciousnesses following “The Consciousness” are sum of "The Consciousness and "The Universe" and so on.

Current conceptualization of "universe" is the totality of everything that exists. By this concept, it is assumed that there is only one universe since all existing components constitute a "universe". However, there are spectrum that are yet invisible to our senses such as "void" and "light". With advancing technology, I hope our tools will allow us to detect these spectra.

Background and motivation
I received my bachelor's degree in anthropology in 2009. I'm now working as a field archaeologist as I prepare for entering graduate school. My motivation is to use rationalism to come at a holistic understanding of change.

Sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(biology)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_history_of_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_water_on_Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraclete
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_identity_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/feb/did-life-evolve-in-ice
http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibtable.html
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-29 04:19:48 UTC
OK.
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-29 04:23:53 UTC  |  Edited by: VKhaun Vex
What makes this anything but speculation?



Quote:
First, I present the basis for my model. The process of change is certain. The process of change is cyclic and self-sustaining. Cyclic processes have no beginning or end. There are only transitions. The universe is the totality of everything that exists. This includes all matter and energy, the planets, stars, galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space. The Universe uses evolution to change. Consciousness is a term that refers to the relationship between the mind and the world with which it interacts. The mind is constituted by conscious experience and intelligent thought.
This is the foundation for everything contained. It's what you build on and explore in everything below... and none of it is backed by anything. Why is change certain? Nothing I've ever read says that stability is impossible or even impractical. The process of change being cyclic as a general and sweeping statement for the entire universe needs some serious explaining -not explaining about how you mean it happens, but why you think it's true in the first place- and there are plenty of good theories where there are multiple universe.

You have posted no foundation for your house of cards.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-01-29 04:31:42 UTC
Is there a TL;DR version?

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VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-01-29 04:36:59 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Is there a TL;DR version?


He picked one theory out of a hat for everything involved in the major systems of our universe, assumed they were all correct, and put them in a blender with ice, milk, and sugar. This is the smoothie that came out if it.

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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#7 - 2012-01-29 04:44:07 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Is there a TL;DR version?


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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-01-29 05:08:11 UTC
VKhaun Vex wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Is there a TL;DR version?


He picked one theory out of a hat for everything involved in the major systems of our universe, assumed they were all correct, and put them in a blender with ice, milk, and sugar. This is the smoothie that came out if it.


Ah, thank you for straightening this craziness out for me. Hope it wasn't normal boring white sugar

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Umega
Solis Mensa
#9 - 2012-01-29 06:47:47 UTC
Not here to take a dump on effort.. 'A' for effort.

But I am going to poke holes that I see.

You had best figure out 'quantum fluctuations' first. You kinda added it to your whole model of change.. but didn't attach anything to it. Are you perhaps implying that 'quantum fluctuations' are zero and thus Existence? Cause while you stated numbers don't mean anything.. I'm sorry but numbers mean everything. Mathematics is widely considered the Universal language for a reason.. cause no matter what you speak, where you're from, 1+1=2. It seems you have quantum fluctuations as influencing the sum of some things, but it has no attachment to a value. It is something, it has an effect.. but you consider it nothing at the same time. Something I find problematic when creating a fibonacci.

I also have a problem with anything that revolves around the notion of having both Zero and Infinite. When creating a model of anything.. for it to feel and end up being concrete science.. the numbers can't lie. If numbers equate and formulate poorly to the point you have to create an entirely new mathematics to make one thing work.. it is simply, wrong. Zero and Infinite simply can not co-exist.. BAH, I'll shut up concerning this.. it sorta of is and isn't relevent to your model. I'm not going to get into a theoritical debate about it tho..

I get you're not implying that Existence is actually Zero, in the sense of being of nothing.. but using it as a starting point. And ultimately implying that change goes on infinitely from that starting point of Existence. Don't you find it a touch ironic.. that you are implying a never ending momentum of change.. by using a formula that never changes itself? It does the same thing over and over. The formula itself.. while the result is always a different number.. the equation itself is always the same and never changes.

And some of these things I can't wrap my head around and needs more explaining.. You have 'The Universe'. Then go on to imply that there is more to our Universe than meets the eye, pretty much. Wouldn't that.. simply on principle.. knock off your 'Universe' as being so basic at the base of your foundation? Saying it is the first layer.. but has many layers in itself. What are these many layers, what are their implications to the rest of your model?

Are you trying to hint at the possibility that change is a pre-determined cycle of duality that spirals outward of itself before falling back inward, signfying that it is a whole One point of Existence.. and does so over and over and over endlessly, allowing it to well, quite simply.. Exist.. ?
stoicfaux
#10 - 2012-01-29 07:25:25 UTC
Soriddo Suneku wrote:

First, I present the basis for my model. The process of change is certain. The process of change is cyclic and self-sustaining. Cyclic processes have no beginning or end.

That seems to contradict the laws of thermodynamics and entropy. Perpetual motion is bad, and entropy increases. So no permanent (aka self-sustaining) cycles.

Quote:

The "helper" creates matter, possibly through “quantum fluctuation”. A “Big Bang” occurs. A “Big Bang” expresses its maximum self through the evolution of subatomic particles.

Or the universe expands forever, ending any chance to repeat the Big Bang.


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J Kunjeh
#11 - 2012-01-29 13:00:44 UTC
Posting in a first-time shroom trippers thread.

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 

Soriddo Suneku
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-01-30 20:06:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Soriddo Suneku
I apologize for failing to convey this information in a way that can be conceptualized without much thought.

Thank you, everyone, for your comments and criticisms.

If this model is to die, then let it rest with a graceful manner.
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-01-30 22:06:18 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Soriddo Suneku wrote:

First, I present the basis for my model. The process of change is certain. The process of change is cyclic and self-sustaining. Cyclic processes have no beginning or end.

That seems to contradict the laws of thermodynamics and entropy. Perpetual motion is bad, and entropy increases. So no permanent (aka self-sustaining) cycles.

Quote:

The "helper" creates matter, possibly through “quantum fluctuation”. A “Big Bang” occurs. A “Big Bang” expresses its maximum self through the evolution of subatomic particles.

Or the universe expands forever, ending any chance to repeat the Big Bang.




what are you talking about? That is only relevent for a stable, unchanging universe

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VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-01-30 23:02:47 UTC
Soriddo Suneku wrote:
I apologize for failing to convey this information in a way that can be conceptualized without much thought.

Thank you, everyone, for your comments and criticisms.

If this model is to die, then let it rest with a graceful manner.


I laughed.

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Adunh Slavy
#15 - 2012-01-30 23:25:04 UTC
Soriddo Suneku wrote:
I apologize for failing to convey this information in a way that can be conceptualized without much thought.

Thank you, everyone, for your comments and criticisms.

If this model is to die, then let it rest with a graceful manner.



Nothing to apologize about. That you are asking the question is what matters, just never assume you have the answer.

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Soriddo Suneku
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-01-31 00:38:52 UTC
This model isn't perfect, and so this isn't the answer.

This model isn't final because it can be criticized and dismissed, laid to rest, or it can be criticized and built upon. I'm hoping for the latter, only to build a better understanding of nature for everyone.

I do not hold degrees in philosophy, psychology, mathematics, physics, astronomy, chemistry, geology, or biology. I have only a bachelor's degree in anthropology, a jack of all trades, specialist in none. These are not my specializations, and with that, I reach to those who may be specialized in these fields, particularly those who may or may not play Eve Online. Having lingering in this community for sometime, I understand this community harbors intellect and skepticism, and this is apparent with the comments received.
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-01-31 01:28:49 UTC
Soriddo Suneku wrote:
This model isn't perfect, and so this isn't the answer.

This model isn't final because it can be criticized and dismissed, laid to rest, or it can be criticized and built upon. I'm hoping for the latter, only to build a better understanding of nature for everyone.


Submitting something this deep without backing will get you dismissed by most immediately, and when someone gives you that back as a concern and you ignore it as 'comments received' you look like a fool who has taken for granted that they are correct since you neither explain nor acknowledge the gap in explanation.

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Soriddo Suneku
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-01-31 01:43:15 UTC
VKhaun Vex wrote:
Soriddo Suneku wrote:
This model isn't perfect, and so this isn't the answer.

This model isn't final because it can be criticized and dismissed, laid to rest, or it can be criticized and built upon. I'm hoping for the latter, only to build a better understanding of nature for everyone.


Submitting something this deep without backing will get you dismissed by most immediately, and when someone gives you that back as a concern and you ignore it as 'comments received' you look like a fool who has taken for granted that they are correct since you neither explain nor acknowledge the gap in explanation.


Thank you for helping me to understand this approach better. The comments received help me to acknowledge that this is something that is not ready to be discussed without further explanation. I acknowledge this from the beginning of my original posting, inviting all to modify (in other words, break apart) this model.

Because of its weaknesses, it was broken apart fairly quick.

Depending on energy and time, I will piece the model back together with the glue of proper backing.
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-01-31 03:42:20 UTC
Soriddo Suneku wrote:
VKhaun Vex wrote:
Soriddo Suneku wrote:
This model isn't perfect, and so this isn't the answer.

This model isn't final because it can be criticized and dismissed, laid to rest, or it can be criticized and built upon. I'm hoping for the latter, only to build a better understanding of nature for everyone.


Submitting something this deep without backing will get you dismissed by most immediately, and when someone gives you that back as a concern and you ignore it as 'comments received' you look like a fool who has taken for granted that they are correct since you neither explain nor acknowledge the gap in explanation.


Thank you for helping me to understand this approach better. The comments received help me to acknowledge that this is something that is not ready to be discussed without further explanation. I acknowledge this from the beginning of my original posting, inviting all to modify (in other words, break apart) this model.

Because of its weaknesses, it was broken apart fairly quick.

Depending on energy and time, I will piece the model back together with the glue of proper backing.



I suggest, without hostile intent, that you start with your reasoning for selecting the theories you use as a basis for the model.

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Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-01-31 05:02:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Taedrin
okie dokie, so let's get started here.

"The process of change is cyclic and self-sustaining."
Violates the second law of thermodynamics. This is OK, though so long as these violations are only transient and occur at the sub-atomic/quantum level.

"The universe is the totality of everything that exists."
No, the totality of everything that exists is the Omniverse, by definition. It is possible that the Universe is equivalent to the Omniverse, but there are theories which theorize that our universe might be just an expanding bubble in a sea of vacuum energy which is also constantly expanding, with other bubbles (e.g. other Universes) in the neighborhood which are beyond our observation (but exist none-the-less).

"The Universe uses evolution to change."
Once again, you don't understand the words you are using. Evolution requires several characteristics which the universe lacks:
1) The ability to reproduce or self-replicate
2) The ability to mutate.
3) The ability to combine qualities 1 and 2 - the pass mutations on to "children".
I do not know of any theories which cause our universe to reproduce. I suppose there is the many-worlds theorem, but that isn't reproduction of the universe but merely the selection of a single universe out of many that are pre-existing.

"Consciousness is a term that refers to the relationship between the mind and the world with which it interacts."
No, consciousness is a philosophical term (read: people made it up) which refers to our ability to experience qualia and to perceive our own existence. Consciousness interacts with our perceptions, but not the world itself. If it interacted with the world, then it could be measured. It may, or may not be an illusion. However, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that it actually exists in the universe.

"The mind is constituted by conscious experience and intelligent thought."
What about emotion? What makes "intelligent thought" different than what a computer does? Or IS there any difference?

"The Universe expresses its maximum self through the evolution of The Consciousness."
Wait, so the Universe is now a living, sentient thing? Does it respond to inquiries? And WTH is "The Consciousness"? Are you now espousing Pantheist beliefs as a scientific model?

"The Consciousness replicates itself. The copy is the "light-bearer""
The consequence of this statement is that the "light-bearer" is equal to "The Consciousness". But you clearly state later on that "the light-bearer" is equal to "The Consciousness" plus "The Universe". This is confusing and potentially contradictory.

"The "helper" creates matter, possibly through “quantum fluctuation”. The “Big Bang” occurs."
Except that quantum physics doesn't exist before the Planck Epoch. And in fact, the fabric of space-time doesn't exist before the Planck Epoch for that matter (no pun intended) either.

"The Atom copies itself into a third consciousness, the stars, to support hydrogen."
Hydrogen supports the stars, not the other way around. All of the Hydrogen in existence was created approximately 3-20 minutes after the Planck Epoch, during the nucleosynthesis stage of the Photon Epoch. This hydrogen is ALL THAT WE GET. Stars consume hydrogen through fusion, and the massive amount of heat generated supports the star's massive weight - preventing it from collapsing into electron or neutron degenerate matter (or a singularity).

"The planets express their maximum self through the evolution of water molecules. Water molecules express themselves by forming gaseous water. "
Except that water existed long before planetesimals were formed, and even then this water existed solely as a gas OR as a solid - but never liquid. In the near-vacuum of space, solid water sublimates directly into water vapor. There simply isn't enough pressure to get liquid water.

This is why philosophers should not be allowed to talk about science.
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