Jita Park Speakers Corner

In a large multi-server game the tendency towards advocating with an eye towards selfish advantage would be neutralized largely and input common to all servers would be recognized as legitimate. Where as in EVE nearly all players on the council have a vested interest with in every issue in a manner particular to EVEs in hgame political balance.

Did it make any sense for CCP to solicit CSM input on changes to the Drone regions - NO.

Does it make any sense to solicit CSM input on re-balancing moon goo - NO.

Does it make any sense to solicit CSM input on changes to super caps - NO.

That's how every RL political issue is handled. Even if there's no direct conflict of interest, a congressman voting on an Oil bill may be thinking about its effects on the price at the pump.

It might be interesting to see how it would break down if we followed the EVE spirit and divided constituencies on more plutocratic levels: volume of ISK transactions. So, those areas that have the most value get the most representation. Though, again, I'm sure there is a train-wreck waiting in the wings with that.

So let's make The Mittani the CSM Dictator for Life?

etc. World of Spaceships with 15 minute PvP matches in your gold Scorpion.

Also though pvp can be part of the sandbox. As in controlling space and defending it and forming allies. Though alot of power blocs have formed so it does seem pvp being a sandbox platform is a dead thing.

Sadly, the only thing that the CSM and CCP seem to be able to do these days is structure grinds (like the POCO) or try to break everything they don't really understand (which seems to be most of the game). Going to the PvP aspect of the game with continued degredation of the rest of the game is porr management. It doesn't sem athat anybody talking about the changes are familiar with anything but structure grinding so that may be why there is actually little in the way of game improvements.

Why are you siding with OP? All joking aside, the British parliament works? I thought it was just two sides yelling and jeering at eachother...

The purpose of the CSM was to get CCP better feedback with respect to what the player base wants from the game development.

A dedicated electronic forum will be provided for voters to formally present issues to Csm representatives. Because this is a “gathering place” where topics deemed important to society are heard and acted upon by democratically elected representatives, moderators must be present to keep discussions civilized, ordered, relevant, and lawful. These measures are necessary here, as they are in real society, to keep the unruly from disrupting any civil institution ranging from courts of law to the halls of legislative government bodies.

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In the spirit of encouraging as much debate and discussion as possible, any voter may present any topic at any time in this forum, and there is no limit to the number of topics they can introduce—as long as they are genuine, relevant, and wellarticulated. In addition, they may participate in as many existing topics opened by fellow voters as they please. the burden of demonstrating the legitimacy or urgency of the issue rests with the voters themselves. a good idea will generate momentum all on its own, and it is the task of the Csm to not only track these discussions, but to engage the populace as much as possible in the interest of sustaining that momentum until the issue is brought to closure.

To further support the introduction of ideas from society members, a forum mechanism will be introduced which allows topics to be “marked for resolution”, ensuring that the matter is brought before the Csm. using their own judgment, representatives will have the power to mark topics as they deem necessary—namely by gauging which issues voters are generating the most debate about. once a topic is marked, voters will be able to indicate their support or disapproval.

When a topic is introduced, a seven-day counter begins. during this time, the topic is open for all individuals to deliberate. should, after seven full days, 25% of the total participants in the last general election support a topic, the Csm is obligated to allocate time for that issue in their next meeting, the results of which ...

It doesnt matter that you think particular CSMs acted rightly or wrong with respect to their self interests in a particular case - and not just because their more nuance and layers involved in their discussions than could ever be relayed to the player base at large.

What matters is thats theirs a huge conflict of interest.
It makes no sense to have small group select players giving development input when those same players have a political interest with in the system.

naive person completely ignorant about how both ccp works and how the csm works posts a thread

it is bad!

we need to set up a jita park bingo, you could mark a box like that off every day