Market Discussions

IF you refine the ore into minerals with high skills then you will earn more iskies. Minerals are the heart of EVE so they sell extremely well

I also apologize if this has been answered before.

EVE is a merciless game. Fraud and everything else is allowed.

Regarding the market. I have to question why the following two transactions are as they are.

1. When you buy an item in the market, you can pay more than the lowest bidder but it still sells goods from the lowest seller's stock. CCP just basically takes the extra ISK you paid and no one gets it.

2. When selling. You enter a selling price below the lowest bid. The highest bid gets your items at the cost they bid, but you are still only given whatever you bid for the item.

Why do this? Why screw the player out of ISK? First, It almost seems unethical on CCP's part, basically screwing buyers and sellers out of ISK. This isn't a player swindle, it's a game function controlled by CCP, which costs players ISK usually due to typos on a sale entry when there's perfectly valid goods on the market for sale.

If they're going to allow this, then when I forget the extra zero on my sell/change order, give the sale to that crazy pilot that put in a bid for way below market, not the highest bidder, unless you're going to pay out the ISK to the seller.

It may seem like whining (I'm sure that's the response I'll get) but two fun days of working the markets were wiped out from a single typo which, while still would have been painful selling to highest bidder at 5% loss, wouldn't been nearly as bad as selling something at a 90% below market value and a 100M ISK loss, and that same person still being charged what they bid for the item even though I didn't receive the ISK...what? That seems like CCP is taking ISK from players without an equal transaction minus the broker fees and taxes..

I'm all for fraud and rackets, but this seems more like a functional error due to typo that really doesn't need to be penalized when there are market orders sitting there at higher prices in the same station you're sitting in. If you're going to screw the players out of isk (both buyers and sellers by mysteriously sucking ISK out of the game due to data entry errors where no one but CCP gets the ISK. Feel free to correct me as well if my interpretation of what's happening to the mysteriously disappearing ISK isn't correct.

So I guess my question is, has this been addressed and/or justified? It seems like EVE is ruthless enough without taking additional ISK from pilots when there's a perfectly good market order sitting there that gets filled anyway. Think of the stock market. Sell a share of Apple for .01, you don't get .01, you get ~450.00 because that was the lowest bid and both parties get the correct goods/ISK. Same with higher than lowest big. buy a share of Apple for 1000.00, you get it for $455.00 because that's the lowest ask price. They don't take your 1000.00 and give the seller 450.00 for the share.

Shame on CCP if that's the case. IT doesn't make anything harder, it causes misery for a pilot when the market order is sitting there to be filled. It's CCP screwing a player over, not another player.

Do corporation standings affect the transaction and sales taxes? For example, if I have no standing with Caldari Navy and my corporation has very good standings, does that still decrease the transaction tax, or does it need to be personal standings?

If I want to invest in a corp or a bank, etc, after just starting, can I make a small investment of 1 million ISK?

There are some issue with expired courier contracts.

Why we cannot refuse or delete expired courier contracts ? At least why these contracts shows as "Required Attention" as long as they already NOT require any attention?

Question about Market spreadsheeting:

Is there is an API, official or trusted, that will let me import all the names and ID's of items that can be traded on the market in EVE? The goal would then be to use that data together with the eve-central API to set-up an all-covering spreadsheet that doesn't require manually typing all the item names and looking up their IDs.

I've looked through the EVE Api's but did not find anything like it.

So, I'm somewhat new at this economy end since I went from warfare to manufacturing. I am a bit misconstrued at the mechanics. Manufacturing something, in theory, is supposed to be cheaper than what is readily available correct?

If so then here is my question. I have sat for about one hour creating spreadsheets from blueprints on various items in this format:
Item Lowest Market Value Amount(adding how much I need multiplied to lowest market value).

--Now that I think about it, I should probably estimate it to a median price, but nevertheless--

The value on manufacturing is highly overpriced in relation to readily available goods.
For example, according to my skills, to make Tungsten Charge L (x100) it costs me 24,019.35 ISK. Whereas actual market value to lowest seller is only 4850 ISK per 100.


I don't get it, out of 13 spreadsheets I have made, only 4 have profit, and not by a lot by any means, I would be only making barley 1% in return.

Besides the answers above, dont forget about speculation and dumping. People who build stacks in low markets will dump in high markets. But dumping can be a slow proces, some products have months to years of stocks in some peoples hangers (see the Economy talk from Fanfest 2013).

Both good ideas, but I would also try the "Ships" ingame channel. Between the Sell Orders forum and the Ships channel you should be able to get it done fairly quickly/easily.