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Jaqa
Royale Strategic Imperative
#41 - 2012-03-24 02:01:42 UTC
Does Dr.EyjoG do any advocacy for market/industry features or does he just do data analysis?
And why did he stop doing Quarterly Reports? And has anything taken it's place?
And why is the sky blue?

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Tekota
The Freighter Factory
#42 - 2012-03-25 19:32:35 UTC
Jaqa wrote:
Does Dr.EyjoG do any advocacy for market/industry features or does he just do data analysis?

Who knows, one would hope and expect so.

Jaqa wrote:
And why did he stop doing Quarterly Reports? And has anything taken it's place?

Why is a bit of an unknown, it was definitely an interesting read and generally well liked. Undoubtedly a large chunk of work though. Market Price Indices seem to be a sort of replacement, if oft overlooked and missed. Last we heard officially on the subject from Dr E was a vague hint at annual, but as that was in 2010 I guess that went out the window.

CCP Dr.EyjoG wrote:
(Link) We will change the format of the QEN but this devblog and the data that comes along with it is an addition to other economic information available to the players. This is a part of a larger plan to give more data directly to players so that they can do their own analysis. And yes, this will continue in the future.

We have not published QENs for 2010 and will most likely not publish them in the previous format but rather moving the Economic Newsletters to more of an annual report. The frequency of the publication is though still being discussed.


Jaqa wrote:
And why is the sky blue?

The atmosphere scatters short wave lengths of light more than other wave lengths. It's the same reason longwave radio covers longer distance than shortwave, and the same reason 802.11b/g wireless is less affected by walls than 802.11a. Blue is on the shorter side of the spectrum of visible light so we see more reflected blue light in the sky.
Jaqa
Royale Strategic Imperative
#43 - 2012-04-02 02:11:43 UTC
Was any reason ever given as to why they stopped producing the quarterly economic newsletters?

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Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-04-05 16:45:31 UTC
Noob question: everything in the EVE market/economy is created/sold/bought by players? For example.. every single part of a ship in this game is player made? So the war is fueled by the economy which is totally in the players hand?
Saidin Thor
The Odin Conspiracy
#45 - 2012-04-05 21:02:20 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Noob question: everything in the EVE market/economy is created/sold/bought by players? For example.. every single part of a ship in this game is player made? So the war is fueled by the economy which is totally in the players hand?


The market is not ENTIRELY player-driven. For example, blueprint originals are all sold by NPCs. There is no way for a player to "create" one of these items, one is forced to buy them.

A vast majority of the in-game economy is player-driven, but not every single part.
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-04-06 06:39:32 UTC
So the blueprint price difference on market is caused by those who buy them from the npc and try to make a profit.
Is there any site where I can check the source of a item listed on the market? Being noob I wanna make sure that I will not buy something that actually is sold by a npc and also wanna learn what's what .. for example why there are listed weird stuff like Slaves nor consumer electronics, bacterias etc :)
Saidin Thor
The Odin Conspiracy
#47 - 2012-04-07 04:13:46 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
So the blueprint price difference on market is caused by those who buy them from the npc and try to make a profit.
Is there any site where I can check the source of a item listed on the market? Being noob I wanna make sure that I will not buy something that actually is sold by a npc and also wanna learn what's what .. for example why there are listed weird stuff like Slaves nor consumer electronics, bacterias etc :)


Well, for blueprints people often buy them and then research them, which takes time, and then sell them. Researched BPOs are more valuable.

I'm not sure if there's a source that tells you, but most of the time NPC seeded items will have multiple places across the region with the same number of items available at or near identical prices. For an example of this, look at something like Pax Amarria.
karesuto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-04-08 01:45:34 UTC
Accepting contracts on behalf of a corporation, is it possible to issue them to a set person in the corp after that point and also to vie what is in the contract to be moved? I don't want to be trying to move things like drugs and stuff in hi sec.
Saidin Thor
The Odin Conspiracy
#49 - 2012-04-09 20:07:40 UTC
karesuto wrote:
Accepting contracts on behalf of a corporation, is it possible to issue them to a set person in the corp after that point and also to vie what is in the contract to be moved? I don't want to be trying to move things like drugs and stuff in hi sec.


Contracts issued by your corporation are just like normal contracts. You can set them as private to a certain individual, if you like.

Unless the mechanics have changed, you cannot put illegal items inside a courier contract. Once you accept the contract, you can open the plastic wrap just like a normal container and view its contents (although if you take anything you fail the contract--duh).
Shar Tegral
#50 - 2012-04-17 15:47:04 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
So the blueprint price difference on market is caused by those who buy them from the npc and try to make a profit. Is there any site where I can check the source of a item listed on the market? Being noob I wanna make sure that I will not buy something that actually is sold by a npc and also wanna learn what's what .. for example why there are listed weird stuff like Slaves nor consumer electronics, bacterias etc :)

Easy way to spot NPC vs Player market orders:

Player orders will always be of duration less than 90 days.
All NPC orders will be reset daily and show up as duration of 364 days and decreasing.
Kenneth Skybound
Gallifrey Resources
#51 - 2012-05-26 18:28:36 UTC
I'm looking to buy large amounts of minerals, but I really do not want to travel through low sec. How can I set up a buy order that covers as far as possible without going into low sec?
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#52 - 2012-05-27 15:56:48 UTC
Kenneth Skybound wrote:
I'm looking to buy large amounts of minerals, but I really do not want to travel through low sec. How can I set up a buy order that covers as far as possible without going into low sec?


I would find the stations which are going to be producing a large amount of minerals, and set up buy orders with a solar system or 2 jump range.

Region wide mineral orders are a PITA, so best to either use a trade hub, or set up several buy orders in different locations where there are going to be lots of minerals available.

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Kenneth Skybound
Gallifrey Resources
#53 - 2012-05-28 09:24:53 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Kenneth Skybound wrote:
I'm looking to buy large amounts of minerals, but I really do not want to travel through low sec. How can I set up a buy order that covers as far as possible without going into low sec?


I would find the stations which are going to be producing a large amount of minerals, and set up buy orders with a solar system or 2 jump range.

Region wide mineral orders are a PITA, so best to either use a trade hub, or set up several buy orders in different locations where there are going to be lots of minerals available.


Okay thanks.
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-05-30 08:28:33 UTC
Not sure where to ask this, but I thinks is more a market related question: I bought 4 Gallente drone specialization skillbook and I wanna sell 3 and contract 1 to one of my other character. But I cant contract or sell them as there is no option for that on right click.. only inject skill.

So .. is this a bug or feature? Skill books cannot be sold or contracted? If so, who sell them and why is such a big price difference between regions?
MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#55 - 2012-05-30 16:54:41 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Not sure where to ask this, but I thinks is more a market related question: I bought 4 Gallente drone specialization skillbook and I wanna sell 3 and contract 1 to one of my other character. But I cant contract or sell them as there is no option for that on right click.. only inject skill.

So .. is this a bug or feature? Skill books cannot be sold or contracted? If so, who sell them and why is such a big price difference between regions?


To contract or sell items they need to be in a station hangar. So first, take them out of your ship's hold. :-)
Then start creating a contract. At one point the contract creation process will present you an inventory list with checkmarks. Obviously check the skillbook and proceed. I assume you can handle it from there.

Selling them is just like selling any other item.

MDD
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-05-30 17:25:47 UTC
MailDeadDrop wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Not sure where to ask this, but I thinks is more a market related question: I bought 4 Gallente drone specialization skillbook and I wanna sell 3 and contract 1 to one of my other character. But I cant contract or sell them as there is no option for that on right click.. only inject skill.

So .. is this a bug or feature? Skill books cannot be sold or contracted? If so, who sell them and why is such a big price difference between regions?


To contract or sell items they need to be in a station hangar. So first, take them out of your ship's hold. :-)
Then start creating a contract. At one point the contract creation process will present you an inventory list with checkmarks. Obviously check the skillbook and proceed. I assume you can handle it from there.

Selling them is just like selling any other item.

MDD

Jesus.. I'm so embarassed :(( Seems like I need more time to get used with the new inventory.
Thank you very much for your response, helped a lot!
Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
#57 - 2012-05-31 20:45:06 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
So the blueprint price difference on market is caused by those who buy them from the npc and try to make a profit.
Is there any site where I can check the source of a item listed on the market? Being noob I wanna make sure that I will not buy something that actually is sold by a npc and also wanna learn what's what .. for example why there are listed weird stuff like Slaves nor consumer electronics, bacterias etc :)


Here you go
That link has most (all?) of the stuff, and will list NPC prices where applicable (and base prices otherwise).
Moto Akimoto
Tengu and Cash
#58 - 2012-06-02 15:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Moto Akimoto
Standings Discount Question:

I have the formula for the standings discount but I can't remember if this discount also applies when modifying an order? Presently the discount is not applied when modifying the order, was it always this way or is this a recent bug? ( increasing the unit price not decreasing )

Thanks in advance for you reply.
Thoraemond
Far Ranger
#59 - 2012-06-21 08:11:03 UTC
Moto Akimoto wrote:
I have the formula for the standings discount but I can't remember if this discount also applies when modifying an order? Presently the discount is not applied when modifying the order, was it always this way or is this a recent bug? ( increasing the unit price not decreasing )

On my last test, the full formula did apply when modifying orders, as well as when placing them.

For more details, I think this thread, "I am lost in the deep dark wood of Broker fee calculation. It is time to shout for help...", started on 2011-11-21, addresses your question.

At that time, the Broker Fee formula was not properly applied to the display in the Modify Order dialog box, but the formula was applied properly to the actual transaction (as seen in the Wallet Journal and actual changes to wallet balance).

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mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#60 - 2012-06-23 07:06:54 UTC
ok a real fast and kinda stupid thing to ask for me but i am just wonding, i have been working out of amarr and what ever loot i get from missions i put on the market there, well what i am asking should i spread it around to other near by systems or just keep it in one station

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one