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Yet Another Legion Thread #1
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Teras Lakkos
SuperMassive Torque
#1 - 2012-01-28 00:38:02 UTC
The legion is subpar in several subsystems yet this falls on deaf ears.

Covert ops sub: lol damage compared to other T3s. Dude wheres my car... erm low slots?
Drone sub: meh
Energy parasitic sub: less neut power than a hurricane with the same range. Loki gets wtf range web, proteus gets wtf range disruptor/scram for comparison.

Easy fixes:
Merge covops and drone subs and give me back my low slot.
Add 100% bonus to neut range on top of the amount bonus.
New laser sub to take drone sub place:
cap bonus, rof and 50/50 drone bay (Hey look the words beam, legion and pve can go in the same sentence)
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-28 00:40:14 UTC
fly a geddon

cheaper
almost as much tank
almost as fast
more dps
can fit a heavy neut
Aestivalis Saidrian
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#3 - 2012-01-28 05:54:31 UTC
Geddons are boring. :|
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-28 06:01:03 UTC
I am Legion.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-28 06:20:38 UTC
the Legion owns and if you don't agree you are wrong

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-28 07:00:19 UTC
They're pretty cool at Incursions from what I hear

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#7 - 2012-01-28 07:50:40 UTC

Do eet!!! Legion needs moar buffs.Twisted I like the way this man thinks.

wait what?! Is my yarrface showing?Pirate

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#8 - 2012-01-28 09:47:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Jojo Jackson
First fix this perma PRE NERV
Quote:
Subsystem Skill Bonus:
10% bonus to medium energy turret capacitor use per level

For Cover Obs, Laser and Drone sub.

Replace it with:
Cover Obs: 5% damage peer level (should solve damage problem)
Laser: 25m³ drone bay/band (to get defens against frigs)
Drone: 5% RoF

In addition 25% better cap recharg for all engineering subs.

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-01-28 09:53:48 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
They're pretty cool at Incursions from what I hear

as long as you treat them like a big Zealot they're fine

try anything else and they suck

.
Teras Lakkos
SuperMassive Torque
#10 - 2012-01-28 14:01:23 UTC
To the guys saying legion is fine/good at incusions/WH , i never said there was anything wrong with a Liquid crystal legion.

Covops
Drone
Energy parasitic

That is all.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#11 - 2012-01-28 14:55:24 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
They're pretty cool at Incursions from what I hear

as long as you treat them like a big Zealot they're fine

try anything else and they suck


Passive fit HAM legions are awesome.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
SpaceSquirrels
#12 - 2012-01-28 15:29:33 UTC
Truth be told many a sub system needs to be reevaluated for all t3's. And just a few slot layouts as well.
Teras Lakkos
SuperMassive Torque
#13 - 2012-01-29 02:56:53 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Truth be told many a sub system needs to be reevaluated for all t3's. And just a few slot layouts as well.

Which subs and fitting need work for Loki and proteus? Ewar tengu is bad but the last thing we need is a tengu and ECM buff.
Rocky Deadshot
In The Goo
EVE Trade Alliance
#14 - 2012-01-29 03:10:53 UTC
This game isnt about every ship being balanced with every other of its type. If what you want to do with your ship cant be done effectively, learn to fly another ship
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#15 - 2012-01-29 03:15:59 UTC
If for some reason I was banned from flying my beloved Gallente ships and had to pick only one ship to fly, it would be a Legion.

It's a fine ship and I enjoy flying it when I'm in the mood for laser battles. Thing's a beast when set up properly.

Mr Epeen Cool
Teras Lakkos
SuperMassive Torque
#16 - 2012-01-29 03:27:50 UTC
I agree a liquid crystal legion is great. But it is a one trick pony with the other underwhelming offensive subs and ewar sub. I don't worry about balance, I just want these subs to actually be useful.
Selinate
#17 - 2012-01-29 04:05:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
I would appreciate a slight range bonus on medium lasers for the cov ops subsystem, since just making lasers useable by giving cap use reduction on a legion, and not giving any other boosts kind of makes it meh.
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-01-29 04:43:38 UTC
Teras Lakkos wrote:
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Truth be told many a sub system needs to be reevaluated for all t3's. And just a few slot layouts as well.

Which subs and fitting need work for Loki and proteus? Ewar tengu is bad but the last thing we need is a tengu and ECM buff.


Blaster/Rail Tengu?

Yeah, I've never seen one either. Legion has some problems, but it isn't he only T3 with problems. All of them have useless subs that need to be revisited.

If I pay that much for a ship all the pieces better work!

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#19 - 2012-01-29 07:35:28 UTC
I rather like all the Amarr ships. Having one ammo (conflag) and if you are hard up, navy multifreq pretty much makes a laser obselete though.
Teras Lakkos
SuperMassive Torque
#20 - 2012-01-30 00:19:23 UTC
Skydell wrote:
I rather like all the Amarr ships. Having one ammo (conflag) and if you are hard up, navy multifreq pretty much makes a laser obselete though.

wat?

Being annoyed over a couple useless legion subs has nothing to do with how good lasers and amarr is.
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