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Good afternoon.
My name is Industrial Character, and other than showing off my awesome name, I am opening up a 1Bil ISK Bond for 2 months, at 10%. This will be broken into 100mil Segments.
It seems all the new Bonds that are created seem to go about this rate, and seems fair reading feedback from other Bonds.

About Me:
I've been interested in playing Eve for a long time, however timing in RL hasn't been conducive for me to get as into this game as I'd like. After getting back from my last deployment and moving across the country twice, I am now in a very stable and well paying career. I've run a lot of research and math, and gotten help from a lot of friendly people in game, and while I could pay for this venture in GTC's, I'm confident that I can avoid that and make this account self reliant.

My Goal:
Once the Bond is filled, I will be buying a small POS, with some Labs, and start running invention jobs. This will supplement my current PI and T1 production, hopefully replacing both of these all together.

Business Plan:
Initial Investment - 1 Bil ISK from public Bond at 10%.
-1 Caldari Small POS.
-2 Labs (1 basic, 1 advanced).
-2 Weeks Fuel (rest of fuel will be paid for by profits).
-Materials for building T2 items.

Over 2 months, I will be issuing out interest on the 1st of each month (First payment Mar 1, Final payment Apr 2 to avoid April 1 jokes).
With a final payout of 1.2Bil, I will be paying 600 mil on each pay day. This will mean my profits will be lower on the first 2 months, however repayment should be a lot faster for my investors.
Since I have lowballed my profit margins, it may be possible to repay faster, and if possible, I will make every attempt to do so.

Finalization of the Bond:
April 2nd, all investments plus interest will be paid back and the Bond will be closed successfully.
If, under some unforeseen circumstance, this Bond is not successful, I will liquidate as much as possible and purchase GTC's to make up any shortcomings.

Please feel free to ask any constructive questions. I ask that everything is kept clean and friendly.


Investors:
01. Rens Proposition
02. Famous Nigerian Prince
03. Famous Nigerian Prince
04. Adatara
05.
06.
07.
08.
09.
10.

One question, will this POS be in highsec or lowsec?
If highsec, put me down for 1 share.
If lowsec, no thanks.

The Royal Family is willing to invest 200,000,000 ISK to this bond in order to raise money to help save our family heirloom.

Please confirm that you still have space in this bond and upon receiving confirmation we will contact Royal Treasury for immediate withdrawal of 200,000,000 ISK which will be deposited to your account within 24 hours.

We look forward doing business with you.

Famous Nigerian Prince
Representative of The Royal Family

Without wanting to put words in Ruvin's mouth one would guess he is alluding to the fact that in Eve the default position is scam; in the abscence of any information one will naturally assume scam. Your posting char has no history to go on, you offer no typically asked for info to allay such fears, such as API keys, alt chars, proof of business dealings, proof of skills required to do what you suggest you'll do, or a post history so as to attempt to ascertain character - as such we have no info to go on, and as previously highlighted, in the abscence of information the default position is scam.

Those doing a little further research might come to the conclusion that the char SPQRMocton is one of your alts. If this is the case then the age and post history of this char may tend to conflict with your proclaimed history and dealings in your OP; potential investors would be further skeptical of the need or motivation for this bond.


In short, thus far, you've done nothing more to establish a legitimate operation than isk doublers in Jita. This is not to say you are a scammer but just that with the abscence of information people naturally conclude you may well be.

Would suggest at the very least a full disclosure of alts, perhaps an Eveboard link to prove your invention skills, release of API (customisable API if necessary) to third party for at least a cursory verification of alts and the previous T1 and PI activities you claim.

200,000,000 ISK from Royal Treasury have been transferred to your account.

You may use our APIKEY to confirm that this money comes directly from Royal Treasury.
ID: 576124
VCode: VCODEROYALFAMILY576124

Famous Nigerian Prince
Representative of The Royal Family

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Naturally I cannot suggest the above to be a definitive "do this and you'll get 1 billion iskicles" list, merely an absolute minimum before *many* will even begin to consider.

I have no idea who any of the people investing in my Bond are.

If you are trying to allude that I am posting with some alts, and giving myself 100's of millions of ISK, to try and scam a few hundred more... when I can simply buy a plex or two, and make more with less effort... I do not understand your reasoning.

If you would like to invest, please send the ISK to me, I will add your name to the shares list, and pay out interest on the appointed dates. If not, please stop trolling my thread, thank you.

No, that name is not familiar with me, and if you would kindly stop trolling, I would be appreciative.

So far, 2 investors have stepped up, with 7 more shares left. Using my T1 production and PI profits, I have purchased and set up a Control Tower today. I would still like to raise the remaining funds requested to populate the tower with labs and materials to make T2 items.

and why did you hide youre wallet?