EVE New Citizens Q&A

Greetings all!

I have a pretty broad question for the community, so please bear with me.

I am roughly two weeks into my 60 day trial period and so far I am having a blast. But now I am done fiddling around and getting a feel for my play-style and I am now know what I enjoy doing. So far I have begun narrowing out my skill field to become a guided missile specialist. Using that type of weapon feels natural to me (I have no idea why). I already own a Caracal cruiser and have outfitted it with medium assault launchers and light launchers. I have the capability so far of building my own ammunition and frequently use long range F.O.F. guided missiles. As for targeting I can reliably target most rat frigates at long range and destroy them with one shot.

Not too bad, but I fully understand that these aren't even piecemeal compared to normal flesh and blood players. I am at the moment using these PVE missions to practice and get a better feel for the tactics and fighting style that I am using.

I am also focusing on completing all the skill certification and am eventually upgrading my cruiser to the Cerberus version. That is my overall hardware goal.

But as I read guides and comments on this forum and study further I see that there may be no use for that kind of specialty as a professional soldier. As missiles are very useful and effective in PVE, they tend to fall short in PVP. When fleet commanders look through their assets as they stage their campaigns missile based battleships, battlecruisers, and especially cruisers get overlooked.

My immediate goal is to become a guided missile cruiser specialist. My extended goal is to use those skills as a professional soldier.

Is that goal plausible, or am I wasting my time?

Torpedo raven able to deliver this 'absurd' damage only to POSes. Due to tremendous missile damage reduction raven's omg-dps drops in half or more without two target painters even when hitting battleships (stasis web hepls, too). All this thing also make torp raven almost unable to tank, because it has only 4 med slots for tanking and capacitor management and tight on power greed.

You forgot to post the fitting for the Rapier that helps you to get close to your paper dps.

You are missing the point again. The Raven _requires_ a fleet with a Rapier. If you don't got one or it dies right at the start of the fight, you will do less damage then a Drake. You might as well bring a Drake and have the Rapier pilot in a Drake too to out damage that one Raven. Technically you could build a scary Fleet with Ravens and Rapiers. Good luck at finding enough players with maxed out skill in both fields to make it work.

However, it's easier to lower missile damage, speed in ANY direction lowers it whereas only transversal lowers it for turrets.

TL;DR

If you are truely a specialist, you will find a home in PvP. All weapon systems are pretty handy at max skills on the appropriate maxed skilled platform.

Guns have more hulls they fit on allowing easier transition to other roles / ships.

Would hardly call it derailing. One of the main missile ships in the Caldari lineup (e.g. the lineup the OP was looking at) was being impugned as bad. Given that the OP is asking if specializing in missiles makes sense I think that's a perfectly reasonable thing to talk about, even if most of the jargon likely went over his head.




To expand upon the above: a "Shield" fleet as opposed to an "Armor" fleet is only relevant when there are remote reps involved. In a normal fleet, the type of tank of the individual ships doesn't matter, but when you are being remote repped, it does.

There are more armor ships than shield ships in the game, so already armor gangs are a bit more common. It's compounded by the fact that shield transporters have rather high CPU requirements and are thus harder to fit to anything that isn't a logistics ship.

Feel free to ask about specifics. The general gist of it is that missiles deal reduced damage to any target below a certain size or moving at a certain speed. Turrets do not inherently deal reduced damage; damage of turrets is a function of angular velocity modified by size. A dread could hit an interceptor at full speed for full damage as long as the interceptor was moving at a 0 degree angle (e.g. directly at it).

In practice, especially against competent pilots, however, this rarely happens.





Projectile weapons have mostly selectable damage types, sort of. For close range ammo, Minmatar can roughly choose between EMP, Thermal, and explosive (but not really any kinetic). However, their t2 ammos generally just do explosive.

Hybrids all do KIN/Therm and lasers always EM/therm...so you are pretty much correct that missiles have the most selectable damage types. Many Caldari ships have a damage bonus specifically to kinetic damage, though. In this circumstance you generally need a very compelling reason to use different damage types.




Depends entirely on the ship. Cruise missiles aren't going to be any good at killing frigates, but an AML caracal will shred them.

Not really sure what you're asking.

Only thing I can think of with cruise missiles are shooting large stationairy things (Ihub, TCU, POS or outpost).
Other things, yes definately true.



Happened to my Manticore lately, we had 2 enemy dreads on field, was on my way to one if them to get a point on it, totally forgot to look at my angular velocity towards the 2nd Dread. Let's just say I found out it was close to 0 (burning straight away from it) as he one shotted my Manticore.



Al depends on the missile ship you bring to the fight. If it's the caracal fitted with AML you will be designated to kill those pesty tackling frigates the enemy has. If it's the HML Drake, you will be appointed as DPS from certain range. Every single ship has its advantages in PvP and certainly its disadvantages.

Also keep in mind the FoF missiles are hardly used in PvP, FoF are great in PvE where you will be jammed by rats, but in PvP (although this is possible) it is hardly used as the jammers are one of the first ships to be targetted by enemy fleets, so when you get jammed, it's usually just the case of holding out till that jammer is taken care off.