Science & Industry

Someone buys the minerals. For manufacturing. If you're selling excess, you're thinking too small. Build moar.

Just a couple updates:

1.) Based on feedback that you guys so kindly provided, we've canceled our largest contract and are actively looking for small/manageable sized contracts.
2.) I have replied to those who have already contacted me or have expressed interest in business relations with Sanguis Mortem Industrial

I've spoken with our members at length and we have agreed the best method is to have daily/bi-daily contract execution. Our mineral production (and existing assets) will easily allow for small contract execution every day, or small-to-mid every other day.

That said, my perspective on what "small" and "mid" are may be askew... anyone have guidelines on that?

So long as nobody was complaining, I personally would have kept the large contract and "coasted" until your corporation had enough liquid ISK to keep your miners paid on a per op basis. Once you can do that, then you focus on expanding.

Furthermore, I personally believe that corp taxes should be ideally less than the amount of ore generated by fleet bonuses. That is to say that you should NEVER make it more profitable for a member to mine on their own. If it is more profitable for someone to mine solo, you will get poor turn out for mining ops and will slowly bleed active members. Note that fleet bonuses only start to generate "extra ore" out of thin air when you have 1 Orca + 3 Hulks. i.e. 1 Orca + 3 Hulks mine more ore than 4 hulks mining individually. Corp taxes should be taken from the difference between these two values.

Tax does not do anything for mining.

With the new T2 links and a maxed out Orca pilot, the boosts now total up to about +70% more ore per hour from the Hulk. Even the older T1 links pushed that up to around 50-55% boost. So the orca pilot paid for itself as soon as you had at least 2 Hulks in the fleet.

2 * 1.7 = 3.4 "effective mining ships
3 * 1.7 = 5.1 effective mining ships

The magic number has always been "2" for "when does the orca start to make sense?". And as soon as you have (3) hulks in the fleet, you can afford a 2nd orca to start hauling full time (or be very good about keeping dock time to a minimum).

Just do it in one belt. Have one Orca play "Jetcan" and one play "Itty V"

This keeps you from having to juggle fleet bonuses.

I'd even suggest having your hauling orca toon skip the leadership skills until they get in a Freighter.

probably less ... assuming the hulks are maxxed too. Takes me about 4-5 hours to strip a belt bare.

Equal shares is how I did it, back when I did such things. If someone is late or leaves early, they get that portion of their share removed and we usually gave it to one of the newer players in the corp or the corp wallet. Keeping track of who arrives when is the job of who ever is running the op. How much someone got paid because of skills or what role they had was not important, the purpose of corp ops is to do something as a corp, mins or rats or pew pew, who cares.

Later, as I had less time and others stepped up, I started using contracts. I'd contract out a price for an amount of ore and let whatever group wanted to get together do it, and do their own accounting. I'd then refine the ore and sell the mins. Any overage or under was slushed to/from the corp wallet. Ore price was set to the seven day moving average.

This contract method allows you not to care and let your members manage them selves and still provide them with goals they can accomplish as a group.